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Hello /his/, in light of all the Holocaust denialism; why not formulate an opinion over the Nuremberg trials and WW2 in General?
I believe it is presentable that the Nazis were unjustly tried by a court where they were allowed no evidence, and accused of multiple things they did not do as proven by later exoneration.
There are two specific articles that are important to the trials, article 19
Article 19 states:
>The Tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence. It shall adopt and apply to the greatest possible extent expeditious and nontechnical procedure, and shall admit any evidence which it deems to be of probative value.
This is apparent as it is stating any evidence can be submitted as long as it helps /prove/ what the Nazis did, not that it is confirmed or valid.
The next questioned is Article 21, lets look at it.
Article 21 states:
>The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof. It shall also take judicial notice of official governmental documents and reports of the United Nations, including the acts and documents of the committees set up in the various allied countries for the investigation of war crimes, and of records and findings of military or other Tribunals of any of the United Nations.
This "common knowledge" provision has been used a few times recently in courts, but for this preceding it was use as "the holocaust" was common knowledge, so the Nazis could not even argue weather or not they had done their committed crimes. Nor allowed to submit evidence in opposition to what they are accused of, much less go and gather it.
Later, the Nazis were exonerated for their crimes accused at Kayan, where the Russians brutally murdered 22,000-30,000 polish officials and intelligentsia. Even during the war Hitler called in the Red Cross to record the event as a Russian massacre, and it was, and they were not allowed to submit it in court.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
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Rather punish the people in charge, than the people with massive debt, it had strategic value to end Nazism once and for all
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So you don't care if it was just or a proper court hearing or proper trial, you just care if "Nazism is ended once and for all"?
Because I don't think it holds up that "Nazism is stamped out", many far right or alt right parties grow larger by the minute, and the alt right has been the biggest threat to the establishment recently.
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The next thing that we could talk about is the Night of the Long knives
Here is a copy pasta written long ago:
The Night of the Long Knives has been severely distorted by mainstream history. Yes it was a political purge, but it was only ever meant to be two men: Ernst Rohm, and Franz von Papen. Also Stalin's political purges numbered close to a million, whilst Hitler's came to a meager 81 (80 of which he did not order to be killed)
When Hitler came to power in 1933, the SA was rendered largely superflous, as they had assisted his rise to power tremendously, however there were more and more incidents where they were behaving like hooligans.
Now that they were the majority, some of them were breaking Hitler's rules, instigating political fights, and smashing the shops windows of Jewish businesses (there are records of Hitler reprimanding SA for doing this in the 20s, but in the 30s they had grown to a quantity he could not control.)
Hitler had control of the SS, as Himmler was firmly on his side. Ersnt Rohm however did begin to frequently disagree with Hitler, and started causing friction within the SA and SS. Hitler's intelligence agency, the Abwehr, tapped Ernst Rohm amid fears he was planning a putsch.
The wiretaps revealed that he had met with a French diplomat, and was helping to organise a putsch with the help of the French army. The NSDAP responded by planning to ambush Rohm and arrest him without the SA knowing and a full blown putsch beginning.
If Ernst had managed to order the SA against Hitler, it would have been a bloody civil war between Germans on the streets. This was something Hitler could not afford at any costs if he was to have the peace and stability he desperately desired.
Whilst Hitler and Goering were in Essen for a wedding (amidst planning how to deal with Rohm) they were informed that Rohm had placed the SA on alert, and summoned all SA commanders to meet him at Wiessee.
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ITT: Bands with historical influences. Ones that make you want to go back in time and be a viking/samurai/crusader etc and fight in wars and shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edBYB1VCV0k
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>>44068
Iron maiden. The clansman makes me want to fight along side with William Wallace
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It's tacky fucking power metal, but it's so tacky it's badass. Also its subject matter is usually ignored by modern music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M155Er6PFz0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Beda3kFNjo
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ITT: The most based characters in history.
God mode: we outmatch each other with each post.
Giuliano Della Rovere
>Escaped from many assasination attempts
>Persecuted by the Borgias who were the most powerful people of Italy at the time
>Came back several years later to reclame the Pope's throne
>Stood by what he thought was right and never gave up no matter what
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>>43883
Andrew Jackson
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Jean de Valette
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I always had a thing for him
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A thread for cool stuff near you. Post pictures, tell stories.
Back in 1793 the British government decided to try and devalue the Assignat by flooding the economy with fake bank notes, in order to make the war against Napoleon easier. They commissioned several paper mills in remote parts of the country to make forgeries, then sent them to Flanders with the Duke of York. One of the mills is just down the road from me. I might explore it some time.
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(from aarschot, belgium)
Spanjards settled in my town en masse and mixed with the population but somehow people here still manage to look inbred
Congrats I guess
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Alexis de Tocqueville once visited my hometown in the 1830s and remarked on what a shithole it was
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Famous Formula One racing driver Jack Fairman was born and lived in my hometown of Horley, Surrey. His old garage is now a Wetherspoons pub, named after him. Pretty good pub, actually.
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Okay, so as we all know, 4chan was founded as a Japanese Culture and Anime website. So I think it only stands to reason that we have approved /his/ animes.
"This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. "
Berserk is the first anime that comes to mind.
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>>43594
Go on
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>>43594
>classical artwork
I don't suppose that means art older than 25 years does it?
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>>43594
Vagabond? Seems more /his/ than a fantasy work. Hell, I'd rank Fate much higher up than Berserk as far as how /his/ it is.
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How did Russia end up so huge? Why did no other nations form within it's territory. I only say this because it seems there isn't a clear and distinct homogenus Russian ethnicity.
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>>43461
Russians were the only ethnic group who got to benefit from the the scientific and philosophical revolutions of Europe while being independent. The other Slavs were already taken over, and the Tartary of Siberia had no access. Before Russian Expansionism, there were plenty of Khanates, but they all fell apart.
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>>43461
because 90% of it is/was an uninhabitable frozen wasteland
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Russia is so majestic
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Can we settle this once and for all? Were Egyptians ethnic Africans?
My understanding is that Egyptians comprised primarily of Greek, European, other levantine and Mediterranean peoples which would make them "olive". At some point the Persians invaded which is where we get the idea of Egyptians as Arabs.
Did Nubians ever contain anything in Egypt politically?
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>>43445
THEY WERE ALIENS
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>>43445
>Did Nubians ever contain anything in Egypt politically?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Dynasty_of_Egypt
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>>43445
>My understanding is that Egyptians comprised primarily of Greek, European
That was only during the Ptolemaic dynasty, which is like the last 300 years of Ancient Egyptian history. For most of Ancient Egyptian history there were only limited trading outposts in Egypt.
To answer your last question. Nubians did rule Egypt briefly, during the 25th dynasty, which lasted about a hundred years.
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This a thread for the discussion of that most legendary English monarch, the once and future king, the man we call King Arthur. It is also for the discussion of Camelot, the Round Table and the Knights that sat there, and the politics of the court.
Topics to kick off discussion:
>What's your favorite Arthurian romance?
>What's your favorite historical analysis of King Arthur?
>Does your country have a cultural counterpart(s) to King Arthur?
>Favorite piece of modern (20th-21st century) Arthurian media?
[spoiler]inb4 Monty Python and FSN[spoiler]
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Why the fuck didn't he kill Lancelot and Guinevere?
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>>44285
Something something virtue and forgiveness
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>>44780
>forgiveness
I don't understand that.
You forgive someone when they forget to wipe their boots before coming inside your house and muddying up your clean floors.
You don't forgive adultery.
That's the kind of the stuff that gets you flayed alive.
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>2015
>not worshiping Quetzalcoatl
Mesoamerica thread, go.
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>>43321
>be Mayan patrician
>get raped by Aztec barbarians
Feels bad man
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>>43321
>flay those who insult quetzalcoatl
>and wear their flayed skins
>also eat their hearts
>heck why not do the same to our own kids
It takes a hell of a religion to make Norse gods look like a bunch of goddamn pussies but here we are
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>>43428
You're thinking Xipe Totec
Who was Jack the Ripper, /his/?
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>>43255
A mith made up by the english media to cover the human experiments failed results
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Aaron Kosminski desu desu
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>>43255
Maybe ubisoft will give their opinion if they make a jack the ripper DLC
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At what point did the Islamic World begin to lag behind Europe? It seemed that for hundreds of years, the Islamic World was a serious rival to Europe.
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1258.
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by what standards?
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Let's share our /his/ reaction images. Now that we have our board, it'll only grow.
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What if Remus had won instead of Romulus? What would the Reman Empire look like?
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>>42778
More wolves.
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That was just a myth.
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>>42810
every legend holds a grain of tuth
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What could hitler and the germans have done diffrently that could have made them win the war or at least made the allies sue for peace ?
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>>42743
Go to your local library, there is a huge book describing all the shit he could have done..
Its literally called "How the nazis could have won the war"
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Know when to quit. Settle for something like the Sudetenland, Danzig, and Alsace-Lorraine, establish new and genuinely independent governments with troop restrictions in conquered territory. Offer a peace Britain can accept and peace out.
Problem was that Nazi ideology wasn't about revising Versailles, but about genociding/enslaving eastern europe and dominating western europe. No one else would accept that, so they got dragged into unwinnable war after war.
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>>42774
eecks dee
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What was the most interesting civil war and why was it the Spanish one?
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Because the good guys won.
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>>42740
lebanese civil war
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A glorious victory for fascism.