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Here's a trailer of the show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbpTo5azMJA

Diriliş Ertuğrul is a Turkish historical adventure television series that takes place in the 13th century and centers around the life of Ertuğrul, the father of Osman I, founder of the Ottoman Empire and focuses on the kayı tribe.

With the Mongol invasions, oppression and slaughters, Turkic tribes flee from Central Asia. The Kayi tribe is one of Oghuz Turkic people with four hundred large nomad tents settling in Anatolia. But they get through a difficult time due to famine. All these nomads want to migrate to a better place where they can start a new life. Suleyman Shah is the leader of the Kayi tribe and his two sons Gündoğdu and Ertuğrul are reliable to him.

Ertuğrul, a young brave man and the younger son of Suleyman Shah. He often goes hunting with his three close men. One of these days they come across prisoners taken by the knights of the Knights Templar. Ertuğrul and his three men save the lives of a young girl named Halime and her family from the knights and kill them all. They bring them to their tribe without knowing their true identity. Halime and her family belong to a noble family of the Seljuk Empire and were to be executed if Ertuğrul did not save them. Due to the fear of being caught, they do not reveal their true identity. However, their arrival brings new difficulties to the Kayi tribe: the Seljuk Empire is threaten to have war if they do not let their guests go and the Knights Templar is seeking for revenge. For this reason some nomads start to blame Suleyman Shah for not being able to be a good leader. This suits up well for Kurdoğlu, swore brother of Suleyman Shah, who has a hidden agenda. Suleyman Shah takes action and sends Ertuğrul on a vital mission for finding new land. For this reason, Ertuğrul and his three men go to Aleppo in order to make an agreement with the Sultan. They set off a chain of events that ultimately will lead to the founding of the Ottoman Empire.
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>>58733
best show about history
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>>60207
was anything in this show factual?
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>>58733
Are the Mongols also just Caucasian Turkish actors?

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Was it:
a) Gorbachev (glasnost/perestroika)

b) Internal structural issues (negative demographic trends like a decline in pop growth, life expectancy declining, increase in alcoholism)

c) The U.S and Reagan (through increase in military and the SDI shenanigans)
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>>58716
I reckon it was Gorbo giving the individual free speech and ability to criticize the government. Communism doesn't work unless everybody believes (or pretends to) in the system

Also, Gorbo gave the satellite nations free elections or some shit
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>>58716
standard crisis in the reproduction of capitalism, exemplified by old capital stock written down at a loss, and the nomenklatura shifting into a traditional bourgeoisie through primary accumulation of worker's rights.
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>>58716
It was Krutchev in 1956.

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> british colonies declare independence from crown
>"all men have inaliable right to liberty"
>written by slave owners

How would the last 2.5 centuries be different if the founding fathers had decided to free all nigs just to be that much more legit?
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>>58581
Humans could be property. Slaves weren't free men in that time, and to some weren't men at all.
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>>58581
Humanity progresses slowly.
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Everything would be better, most certainly

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Tell me again why Alexander of Macedon is so great?

>because he conquered it all in one lifetime!

Looks like he just took Persia, and not even at its height.

"Conquered the known world" my ass.
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>kicking the ass of the egyptians
>kicking the ass of the persians
>managed to do it while being an insane wroth drunken narcissist
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>>58277
at 500bc his empire did have most of the known world in it
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Impacted European and Asian culture for centuries. Distilled imperialistic ideals. Just the perfect example of a classical leader.

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Has history vindicated him yet?
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>>58264
lol no, the opposite.
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>>58264
Without a doubt, McCarthy himself probably didn't even comprehend the extent of soviet infiltration.
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>>58264
yes. Based Yuri revealed a lot of things to us.

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/his/ lets discuss the ancient Celts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVAWwWi0DbE

You will never hear this blaring behind you as you charge Romans with battle boners and blue paint
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>>58138
Bump
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Post something about their history and civilization OP. I don't know much about them besides the blue paint, battle boners and their fire crotch leader
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Were Picts Celts?

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When did you realize that Germany was the victim of an extermination campaign by the other powers in WW1
From my own work on the subject
>Austria’s decision to formally annex the territory, which was ratified and approved by a committee of the European powers, and also formally recognized by the Serbian government, angered many Serbians because it represented a deliberate attempt by the Hapsburg Empire to prevent pan-Slavic nationalism, and crushed all hopes of uniting with the Bosnian Serbs. Because of this, despite the Serbian government’s promise “to conform to the decision of the powers relative to Bosnia” (Allen 206), it did nothing to discourage anti-Austrian propaganda or eliminate nationalist groups that targeted Austrian territorial integrity. For this reason and other, when Serb nationalists murdered the Archduke and his wife, the Austrians and the Germans viewed it as great insult to Austro-Hungarian power and integrity and as the most grievous offense in a long series of transgressions
>Therefore, when the Austrians issued their ultimatum to the Serbian government, the German empire wholeheartedly supported the decision without even knowing the actual contents of the demand. In a message about the ultimatum to all the European powers the Austrians explained their frustrations that “observing a benevolent attitude towards the political interests of Serbia… [hoping] that [Serbia] would finally decide to follow an analogous line of conduct on its own side” (Allen 210) had produced no results
>Germany was fulfilling her obligation to her ally, who was moved to such drastic action “by the instinct of self-preservation” (Allen 211). Austria feared that if the pan-Slavic movements continued, Serbia would demand Croatia, and should they succeed in acquiring it, The Hapsburg empire would be surrounded on three sides by nations which all had claim to her territory. This, coupled with Italian demands, would leave Austria-Hungary without sea access
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>why does everyone act like I'm the bad guy when I invaded a neutral country and sank civilian liners
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>the German chancellor asked his diplomats to convey his message to the various European powers he “trusted the conflict would be ‘localized” (Edmonds 3), while the German secretary of state for foreign affairs, Herr von Jagow, “insisted that he question at issue was one for settlement between Serbia and Austria alone and that there should be no interference from outside in the discussion between these two countries” (Allen 214).
>Herr von Jagow “promised…that if relations between Austria-Hungary and Serbia became more acute he was ready to fall in Sir E. Grey’s (the British foreign secretary’s) suggestion that the four powers (those not already directly involved) work together in favor of moderation at Vienna and St. Petersburg” (Allen 219) “because every intercession of another power on account of the various treaty-alliances would precipitate inconceivable consequences” (Allen 215).
>So strong was the desire for peace in the German government that it refused to mobilize its own troops in response to Russian mobilization. Austria, Serbia and Russia had already instituted mobilization, which, at the time, was tantamount to an informal declaration of war, and thus, the German Empire’s hesitancy to mobilize its own forces in response to Russian mobilization against her further demonstrates the German desire for, if not a peaceful, at least a militarily limited solution. Thus, to this end, Kaiser Wilhelm II wrote a personal letter to his cousin, Tsar Nicholas II, to cease its mobilization against Germany. When the Tsar refused, the German government demanded Russia cease all mobilization, and, to insure that should it come to war the conflict would be limited, also sent dispatches to the United Kingdom and France, asking “for an assurance of neutrality in the case that Russia should attack Austria” (Edmonds 5).
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just wait
>Britain sent an ambiguous response and France replied saying she “would consult her own interests” (Edmonds 6), which is plain enough for any modern historian to see that France intended to make war on Germany to recapture the predominantly German-speaking border region of Alsace-Lorraine, which it had lost in the Franco-Prussian war some 50 years ago
>Two days after the first message, Germany asked Britain for a guarantee of neutrality, and again Britain delivered an ambiguous response. The following day, France declared general mobilization to prepare for war with Germany, in direct violation of the entente cordiale whereby “the two governments (Britain and France) agreed that if either had grave reason to suspect an unprovoked attack, or fear to general peace, they should consult and decide on future action” (Edmonds 1). Germany declared mobilization within a few minutes of the French decree; neither would learn of the other’s actions until well after the orders were given.
>The claim that regardless of selfish motivations to attack Germany, France was obligated to do so by way of its alliance with Russia is wrong, as the terms stipulated by the alliance were purely defensive, and Russia had mobilized against Germany first, and had declared war on Austria-Hungary, not the other way around.

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Throughout the final few decades of the Qing Dynasty, China lost several wars to European powers such as France and the British Empire. In 1894 though, they lost to Japan, who - from my understanding - were historically much weaker than China ever was. This was due to the better technology and armaments utilized by the Japanese, from aforementioned European powers, which China (under Qing) violently resisted.

Why did China resist modernization so much, while Japan was much more embracing?

While not really related, even Mao opted to delay modernizing areas of his country. Is this something common to China?
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pathetic bump
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>>58038
i always assumed because of the size of the nation

Japan was a large enough nation to independently resist foreign interference but still small enough that they could force their entire society to come to grips with changing their way of life at a fundamental level

its forcing a population of like tens of millions of people making a change instead of hundreds of millions

probably still not sufficient to explain i guess
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>>58038
they ended up on the end of gunboat diplomacy and decided they didn't like that is possibly what kicked it off.

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Were the Spartans really all they're cracked up to be? Or are they just a giant Greek meme?
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>>57983
they're a meme, but they also held hegemony for 200 years after winning the first Peloponnesian War
you also might know that the movie is based in a comic, which in part is Frank Miller's exaggeration of the spartan patriotism. biased narrator, you know
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the coolest spartan meme is laconic humor btw:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconic_phrase#Examples
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>>57983
2000 Spartans lost to 300 Thebans.

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I don't understand this, can someone explain it to me at least? How was it a woman's fault that a man forced himself on her and was tempted by her?

Why did society change and start to see this as wrong and not just blame the woman? When did this happen? Around the mid 20th century?
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>>57939
Depends on the culture.
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>>57939
>considered acceptable
it never was, since it was damage to property
yes, women were property back then. deal with it
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patriarchy

Were the moors black?
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>>57835
It was used to refer to any non-white persons of Muslim ancestry but it specifically meant North or West Africans.

Some were, most were Berbers.
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>>57835
The Sahara desert is a great, inhospitable expanse with few oasis’s. To conceive that north Africans were black, when the region was originally colonised by Phoenicians, Syrians, Greeks and Egyptians simply because it happens to be on the same continent as sub-Sahara Africa is ludicrous.

The we wuz kings shit is literally the worst attempt at historical revisionism I've ever heard of.
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Sorry bruh they were the moops

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Is prehistory history?
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>>57821
if a thing happened but no one was there to write about it, did it make history?
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>>57821
Yes, there's a thread on it and the mods seem cool with it, especially as it relates to humanity.
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Is preheating an oven heating the oven?

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I was looking through my medieval art folder and I realized that I actually have a pretty scant amount of art from the Middle Ages besides the Codex Manesse. So, art thread of stuff actually painted/drawn/engraved from the Middle Ages anyone?
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>>57721

What went wrong? Was it inevitable that South Vietnam would fall or could it have eventually turned into a ROK-style democracy?
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>>57548
Congress cutting off funding and not letting Ford send troops in is why the South fell. It was very much an avoidable event.
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>>57548
Watergate happened and the US could no longer support them
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they lacked the will to win

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Best gay people in history

Ill start and win
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weird, he doesn't appear to be getting stoned into mush

we will have to fix that, habibi
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>>57547

Inb4 Hayek and Friedman quotes.
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>>57587
>gay people
=goos

>gay culture
=bad

Get it straight

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