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we should have listened to him
he did literally nothing wrong.
Also he spins in his grave each time someone takes the Atlantis allegory literally

>we should have listened to him

This.

Plato narrated the history of Western society -- from the middle ages (monarchy, aristocracy) to the modern era (democracy, tyranny), passing through all successive phases: timocracy (absolute monarchy) and oligarchy (liberalism) -- before it happened, in book VIII of the Republic. This remarkable foresight proves the soundness of his psychology and political theory.

Plato > Plebs.

WTF did mod-shills delete the democracy thread??

Anyway continuing...

Lenin, without ever having read Plato (that I know of), agrees with him when he says that democracy (that is the rule of the pleasure-seeking, low IQ mass-men) is a necessary prerequisite for the triumph of socialism (that is bolshevik tyranny).

Because it was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire.

Consider their geographical position versus that of other colonizers.

>>981598
Belgium was right next to the "H" "R" "E" and they got along just fine.

>>978308
Memes

Even the Chinese are shitting all over Mao these days

honnestly if you negate all the casualities created by communist Big china and USSR on their soil and their slave states* YES:
Mao: forced modernization of whole chinese empire, destroyed a feudal castic religious hierarchic system into a chink work harder society.
Stalin: forced industrialism and militarization of USSR and forced collectivisation of education and food prodution

Yes they killed people by the tenth of millions
but they both used the manpower of their country to wipe out century technological gap between western world and them.

China 1930: no industry, no arms developpement, demographic excesses and starvings cause no industrial production of food.
China 1975: is slowly creeping on japan on industrial growth, arms everybody and his mother (cambodia, Vietnam, africa ), better balance between food and chink babby production (but total genocide of countless chineses ethnicities 15M).

USSR 1930: shitty food production, cucked by germany, can't into total enslavement of USSR satellites, is aching to put up and industrial system up to produce guns and food

USSR 1970 collectivo/kolkhoz/sovkhoz are feeding almost erryone now (+10M people died out of starvation),cucked germany, poland and Ukraine and basically everybody, total enslavement of satellites, produc gunz and wheat for erryone nao.

Yes communism is evil,
Yet it had been a necessary evil, in order to modernize overbred feudal countries into industrialised corrupted one.

>>984291
>no dominant-party system
All the advantages of the one-party and two-party systems with none of the weaknesses.

>>984291
How about a no-party system?

>>984291
The various intrigues, political backstabbing and deal making that occurs in a multi-party system is the thing that makes those system work. To some degree the state must be protected from its own government. A healthy multi-party system will prevent extremists and radicals from taking control and leading the state to oblivion.

>>983901
They probably only knew whatever the church told them.

The bible readings/gospels would have probably given them a very very baseline understanding of the Romans.

Celts typically thought they were really cool

Germanics considered Romans to be effeminate pussies

>>983901
I certainly wonder what the people living in huts in the ruins of the old Roman arenas and shit were thinking of when they looked up.

>>983615
>the greatest Emperor of all time
That's not Napoleon or Augustus.

>>983615
>greatest emperor of all time
The greatest emperor spot can't be occupied by cvcks.

Darius I was pretty neat.

>>983621
>>983631
Absolutely barbarian

Mongols and Spics cant swim

Probably more guards over there or something

>>983231

Are you fucking autistic? You're no Alexander, that's for sure

>>982493
>you will never completely destroy and purge a 5000 year old culture from the face of the earth with your commie bros

feels bad man

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>you will never get to smash your qt commie wife after a long day of smashing capitalism.

>>982553
You gotta share it with your gomrades though.

As a Christian I'm predisposed not to like him. By all accounts he's one my religion's greatest enemies.

>>981688
>that he was the great thinker of the American Revolution but after all the reading and opinions that I've heard, I'm not so sure
It was actually Madison, Hamilton and Adams that were the thinkers of the revolution. What Jefferson did was ensure French alliances and support and wrote a very rough draft of the Declaration of Independence. Madison is, imo, the true founding father of the United States of America. Hamilton quickly perverted the purpose of the revolution and used Washington as a sock puppet for 8 years after federalization.

>>981688
Jefferson was a true liberal, in the classical sense. His attacks on Christianity on one hand and his insistence on small government and individualism on the other means that both conservatives and modern liberals have things to dislike about him

Nigga how the fuck should we know

Whatever your prof has been talking about will be on the test, anything we tell you is unlikely to be relevant to your final score

>>981349
Start with the Greeks

>>981377
Then the Romans.

>>980587
I'm pretty sure he knew we'd be looking at it in the future

it's was painted and wasn't on a huge pedestal in an open forum, it was inside a building with different levels

>>980588

Jokes on you I'm not looking at it ahahaha faggot

1. Because it makes saracens dead
2. Because Jesus was based

>>979192
It in no way shape or form conflicts with capitalism. BASED Christianity!

>>980953
I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Matthew 19:23-26

Truly a more civilized time.

>>980512
Maybe Seneca was just throwing some top banter, or meant the Romans had so much excess they would get rid of what was already good in order to consume more, or he was a butthurt Greek captive philosopher

Reminds me of that one feast in The Hunger Games, involving a character called Seneca Crane. The feastgoers drank a vomit inducing drink so that they could eat more

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i should organize my /his/ spurdos into folders. If any drawfags (or even someone moderately skilled, gondolas aren't that hard to draw, but I'm sure I'm still not that good) I'd love to drop some /his/ related art and photos for you to draw gondolas into.

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>>978193

Any Empire that bases its economy on one single recourse ((oil)) deserves to die.

>>978202
delet this