hey if I wanted /his/ on the "middle east" where would I start?
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muh babylon
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>>971664
Not much history in that part of the world, desu.
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fertile crescent
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What do you think, how much guilt do the individual countries bear for both world wars?
From my uneducated view I would say Austria-Hungary is primarily responsible for WW1 together with Germany. The ultimatum to Serbia was exorbitant. I wonder whether AH even expected Serbia to comply and wanted to humiliate and extort them or they aimed for a war from the beginning. I favor the latter because of the blank cheque. This is also why I see Germany as primarily responsible. Without Germany's support the ultimatum would have never been made. It was obvious that Russia would intervene and a large war would erupt. Germany repeatedly declined a diplomatic solution to the July Crisis and displayed a lust for war. Britain seemed to be the most peaceful ones, pushing for a diplomatic solution, recognizing from the beginning what was about to unfold and then aiding the less guilty side to overcome the war.
Then comes the Treaty of Versailles. USA aimed for Europe to flourish, France wanted to weaken Germany as much as possible. I wonder which one of them were right. Would a more lenient outcome towards Germany have prevented a second WW or should it have been harsher? Or did it not matter?
Anyway, Germany is the primary culprit of WW2. The treaty seems to be frequently used as an excuse but it does not justify war. I wonder how much the treaty helped the NSDAP to gain power. Since noone stopped them, WW2 was inevitable with their militaristic policies.
And from there on it all went downhill.
Europe lost its leading position, many lives were lost, ressources wasted, industry destroyed, socialism thrived, which led to the downfall of the continent.
So what do you guys think about all this? Which nations bear how much guilt for the WWs? What should have been done differently; how could the WWs have been prevented? And would Europe have maintained its leading position if the WWs did not occur or was its downfall inevitable? Would socialism have thrived even without the WWs?
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First of all, humanity wouldn't even had had to go through two fucking world wars if it wasn't for the fucking Hwan Empire fucking everything up and setting humanity back literally 50,000 years.
Second, the British were the main culprit of WWI. They tried to keep Germany from becoming too powerful and threatening their empire.
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>>969114
>Second, the British were the main culprit of WWI. They tried to keep Germany from becoming too powerful and threatening their empire.
Yeah, British attacked Germany... wait.
British realised their geopolitical strategy meant to alienate potential competitors for continental hegemony. They've achieved this by making 3 of 5 major continental powers to ally with them in one way or another(and competing for influence within Ottoman Empire/Turkey) and from now on they didn't care at all, if Germans wouldn't start shit, they wouldn't get hit either. They've started shit tho.
The understanding of British diplomatic strategy requires little more than traditional, subtle, German "huh, these guys are rich, me muscles big, gonna attack and rob them".
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>>969114
You make it sound like Britain cynically launched a preemptive invasion of Germany.
It's as if Britain's guarantee of Belgian neutrality was little more than a perfidious trap to ensnare the poor, innocent German soldiers going for a leisurely stroll through Flanders on their way to do some summertime sightseeing in Paris.
Why are people who live naked primitive lives always happier than cityfolk?
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They don't. People just say they do.
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>Good morning clothescuck, enjoy sweating in your office all day in the suit Mr Shekelstein forces you to wear.
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because they are healthy and in our natural habitat which we evolve in for millions of years, however it isn't very nice during times of scarcity, there is a reason we switched to agriculture, nature can deal you a good hand sometimes and a shitty hand another
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30500591
we need to control nature to avoid the bad times and we need to control ourselvees during the good times, you are an environmentalist cuck so you probably think controlling nature is inherently evil, but trees aren't sapient beings so suck a stick
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Who is your favourite warrior woman, /his/?
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This madwoman petitioned to the President to create an all-female rifle unit to go to WW1.
A crack shot, famous throughout the continental United States.
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>>977448
Joan of Arc
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>be in philosophy course
>professor talking about ethics in art
>"consider a man who's only sexual activity is imagining raping fictional women. this is immoral even though his victims are fictional."
>our attitudes toward imagined characters or events are morally praiseworthy or blameworthy because they reflect the imagining person's character
containing my psychopathy to simple daydreams of school shootings is just as bad as actually shooting up the school
got it
fucking liberals
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>>973716
>"what we imagine shapes what we do, it is likely the rapist would treat real women as he treats his imagined women"
CITATION FUCKING NEEDED
WHAT A BUNCH OF HORSESHIT
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>>973716
>just as bad
No one said just as bad, he said immoral.
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>>973724
not immoral
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Is Hannibal as good as he's made out to be or just an overrated prime-time memer?
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Battle of Cannae, enough said.
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People still think he's any good?
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>>970337
Battle of Zama, enough said.
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>How do you want your empire?
>Just Fruity Pebble my shit up.
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>HOLY
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>>969324
what does the tiny map in the top left mean? previous duchies that fractured due to retarded inheritance decisions?
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>EMPIRE
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Where the fuck did these guys come from?
It seems like they just popped into existence in the 5th and 6th century or at least that is when people first started writing about them but did nobody travel to eastern Europe before or were the slavs not present in eastern Europe?
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Eastern Europe, in and around modern Russia/Ukraine/Belarus.
Then like lots of other Eastern European tribes they migrated west.
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slavs are from central Europe. Vikings first settled and built Kiev, Novgorod, etc... No one lived east of the Baltic before that. Once towns and trading was established, slavs, nords, and balts migrated east.
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>>965845
>being this ignorant
/his/
What army has commited the biggest number of war crimes in human history?
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Ottoman army
>This is the only logical answer
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Either the Nazis or the Japanese
>inb4 butthurt /pol/tards start spamming Dresden pics
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>>964461
The Mongols then the Waffen SS in a very distant second
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So what are some interesting and historically accurate movies that /his/ watches?
I prefer ones available on Netflix, but beggars cant be choosers.
>pic of course not related
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fantastic movie based on john reed, the only english-language reporter in st. peterburg for the russian revolution. long, but worth it, and one of my favourite movies.
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>>963015
er, only english-language reporter in tight with the bolshevik leadership. dude was a serious commie/socialist.
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>>963015
Just did a quick search and this looks pretty good. Going to wait around and see if any Netflix available answers show up, but i'm defiantly gonna watch this in next few days.
Have some sweet art for payment.
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If the US/GB/France and USSR began war with each other immediately after the fall of Berlin and surrender of Germany, who would have won?
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Soviet armies have immediate ground advantage, but the lack of Naval and Air superiority along with American manpower & industry eventually cracks the USSR.
Europe is even more of a wasteland. Significant populations starve or are just killed in the crossfire.
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>>962505
Probably the Allies. The Soviets were at their ends and anymore fighting would have broken them, especially when nukes are involved.
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>operation unthinkable thread
to be perfectly honest, by the time 1945 rolled around, everyone was just sick and fucking tired of war. No power was seriously going to entertain killing millions more people immediately after having 60+ million die in scenes that can only be described as true Hell.
Stalin knew that if he established Russian-friendly states where the Red Army was in control, there was very little the Western allies could do as they didn't want to continue the war longer than they had to. The Soviets also didn't want to risk continued war, but saw the establishment of the future Warsaw Pact as essential to Russian survival to stave off a potential 3rd European invasion.
The peace in Europe after the Nazi's fall wasn't one that the Allies all wanted, but it was a peace all sides could find acceptable, given the circumstances that no one was really going to fight even more after 6 straight years of combat.
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What race were the huns?
I mean obviously they were Turkic, but for sake of argument what race?
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>>960142
>Turkic
>Mongol
They weren't either. They're ancestors to the Avars/Hungarians.
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>>960144
Definitely not. They were not an Iranic people.
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>>960142
Proto-mongolic, but at the end of their kingdom, they were a mixture of slavs, germans and other people.
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Are Abrahamic religions actually an offshoot of an Akhenaten cult?
>monotheistic
>centered around the sky with no animal or humanistic symbolism
>Egyptians practiced circumcision
>Egyptians avoided pork
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>No source
>No connection demonstrated
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>>959668
>implying this meme pharaoh predates hebrew and zoroastrianism
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>So you're telling me that I get to decide what gods people can worship?
>And that I get to decide where the capital is?
>Okay how about this one: Scrap all the gods, everyone has to worship the sun now. Also the capital is literally out in the middle of the desert where there is no civilization for hundreds of miles.
He was the first memelord, and quite the madman. You can tell from his smug smile that he enjoyed fucking with everything and everyone
ITT: Top 3 presidents/leaders/cancellors/top comrades from your country
Germany
1. Konrad Adenauer
2.Otto von Bismarck
3.Willy Brandt
>inb4 no Hitler
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>>959531
Shamefur bump
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>>959531
>Occupational puppet before national founder
Stay cucked brah.
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>>959531
1.) Teddy Roosevelt
2.) Thomas Jefferson
3.) George H. W. Bush
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Modern and Contemporary Art thread
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Hopefully the painting I chose for the OP will be controversial enough to engender discussion, but not enough that links to spittle-inflected youtube autists get spammed for the entire thread.
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modern art is fine. fags who don't like just don't understand it.
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>>958865
How does one go about understanding modern art?
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>>958891
Well, you don't really, not as a monolithic whole anyway; other than to say that it is an era extending roughly from the 1860s to the 1970s characterised by an experimental and occasionally iconoclastic bent. It encompasses a huge range of styles and movements.