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They were developing all kinds of stuff my friend but we're not really sure

I just wish the nazis won so I could see what crazy shit they would come up with.

Probably so dude

Hail hitler

>>2271207
Weren't most Gnostic religions notoriously ascetic when it came to sexuality? Procreation would have prolonged the cycle of earthly life and prevented people from reaching gnosis.

>>2271447
That's what they claim.
>Numerous early Christian Fathers accused some Gnostic teachers of claiming to eschew the physical realm, while simultaneously freely indulging their physical appetites
I think this is slander, but in manichaeism, it seems to enable amorality in another way:
>The best a Hearer could hope for was to be reborn as an Elect and live an ascetic life to end the cycle of transmigrations - basically giving them a free pass to be exempt from any moral duty
I want to see if any of you can find evidence against Manichaeism giving its followers a free pass on morality.

>>2271447
Mixed bag.

>>2271207
Lemme pull a quote from Rudolph:

"At the beginning of the 3rd C. Clement of Alexandria condemns the Carpocratians for their rites which he describes as excuses to indulge in gluttony and lust. A little while later Celsus accuses Origen of doing this shit, and he quickly points the finger at the Ophites. What's less known is that even the Gnostics were accusing each other of practicing this sort of thing: Pistis Sophia curses, even into the outer darkness, in the name of Christ, those who eat of a lentil dish made with semen and menstrual blood. Two Egyptian testimonies appear in the 3-4th C. that continue this motif, probably in the vein of Phibionite festive meals. The Book of Jesu condemns similar practices. Oddly, though someone then in turn accuses the Barbeloites (who consider the text Pistis Sophia as a core component of their faith, the one that condemns sexual practices) of “obscene rites:...Epiphanius (died. 403) makes this claim in Panarion 26. Irenaeus accuses some Gnostic sect of eating a lentil dish made from menstrual fluid and semen.

A lot of people like to paint the Gnostics writ large as this highly puritanical sort of ascetic group. The fact remains that SOMEONE out there was practicing sexual rites, and I wanna know who, goddamnit.

They are probably singularly important for transmitting what few scraps of practice the West inherited.

He argued that "surrogate activities" are artificial and ultimately not satisfying which is why we should return to primitive life. But obviously if life is just brutal struggle for survival that sucks as well. Hence life sucks no matter what. Q.E.D.

>>2271333
>But obviously if life is just brutal struggle for survival that sucks as well

Only if you aren't surviving. Otherwise you feel accomplished and fulfilled because your work is essential to the survival of yourself, your family and your people. You don't go into some Nihilistic existential crisis.

>>2271983
>everyone will adopt my viewpoint and follow my ways because uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

What if, and this is a big if for a theory of mind lacking autist like yourself, what if I don't give a shit about the self?

>>2271176
you forgot about the Ego

>>2271176
Since the human soul is eternal, loving God is important.

>>2271176
If you mean objective in the ontological sense then no, it isn't, since value is mind-dependant and as such subjective.

French people are a Latin/Romance people, they're just naturally more passionate about what they do.

>captcha: voltaire halcon

>>2271035
French revolution was pretty successful.

Americans for one had the support of France and a whole fucking ocean between them and any relevant countries that wanted them put down.

They didn't stage an actual revolution. The same guys who held power before, held power after, and society was basically the same.

>>2270859
>but stopped for some reason
Getting invaded all the time and having the biggest gold mines in Europe pretty much doomed any civilization to grow in Spain without someone trying to conquer it or take advantage of it. Still Tartessos and the Iberian tribes that traded with the Greeks were pretty advance overall

>>2270859
What made them any less than the Myceneans? The Greeks were envious as shit of some of the cities in southern Iberia, "Tartessos".

>>2271148
you mean the Phoenician colony

>>2270846
Everything

>>2270846

It's called "The History of the Modern World".

Just look at the history of England after 1066.
Starting with the genocide of the peoples of northern England.

trust nobody not even yourself

>>2270822
>Why is Albion so Perfidious?
Because it is eternal and eternalness activates your perfidiousness

>>2270841
Can I trust that?

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>France
>Germany
>uniting to do shit

Ever since the Merovingians they've been unable to get their shit together.

>>2270803
Continental, land powers.

To invade Britain, you need a navy. And Britain's navy has always been the most powerful.

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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

>>2270777
Mexico invites settlers to develop their almost empty northern territory. At first they adapt, but Mexico forbids them from being protestant or owning slaves.
they revolt and get owned, but Mexico starts having problems because the federation is disbanded and a centralized government is declared in Mexico city under santa ana.
nobody wants to help santa ana win his war because they would just empower him.
James k polk was a racist, and disliked that american were getting fucked, plus he was a politician that saw that it would be the best time to expand despite the US having a policy of not warring against other liberal republics.
Polk invades Mexico, no one helps Santa Ana, Mexico loses half of all its land.

>>2270777
Judging by the state of Mexico today and the fact they didn't populate their Northern territories to any meaningful extent, it's a no brainer that Polk did the right thing.

>>2273487
>Yes i know i stole your farm, but i produced more food and made more money with it than you could have! Aren't you glad?

It's kind of a social category, in that they propose solutions for societal problems within a certain ideological framework.

All you need to be one is for others to call you one (i.e. wank).

>>2270600
To use one's intellect professionally. Yes. No. No. No. No. Yes.

>>2270642
So must self-professed keyboard intellectuals aren't anything of the sort?

>>2270542
How the hell have you not read it already?

Get off this board, holy shit.

>he didn't start with the greeks

>>2270542
One of the best stories ever. Go and read it now.

>>2270502
White people adopted self-flagellating morality like "White privilege" and "White guilt."

>>2270502
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War

>>2270502

>france don't let the germans take your ships, it will completely fuck us and the rest of the world. we'll hold them for you
>NO
>alright fine, they can sail under your flag under your captains with your crews, just help us out in the war
>NO
>alright fine, America, your most trusted ally, has agreed to hold on to them, not use them, keep them safe and take care of them until the war is over
>NO

I never quite grasped how vichy france was so fucking cucked

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>>2270498

Mongols

qin hui

Nah, they were the african refugees.

>>2270467
Even Nazis romanticized Indians.

>>2270472
>Germans sacked Augustine's town but spared him and the church out of respect
>African invaders destroy Christian imagery every chance they get
No, they weren't