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>>51903072

The Rangdan Xenocides make heavy reference to the Slaugth from FFG's RPGs, wormlike xenos from the galactic north who infest and control their enemies. References abound in places such as in a World Eaters' Dreadnought description, and Alpharius's (false) origin stories. It's known that the Dark Angels and Space Wolves together handled most of it, with other Legions assisting. but Horus, usually quick to jump in for victory, avoided the warzone like the plague. It's also now been stated that at least one entire Legion of Astartes was lost in it, and given the Space Wolves' executioner claims and the notes of the Consul Obsequiari, at least one Legion may have been infested, purged, and then erased.

Inb4 "Citation Needed," that phrase has become a simple way of stating "i don't believe you, you liar." You will find all relevant info above in HH Books 1, 3, and 7.

>>51904160
>It's also now been stated that at least one entire Legion of Astartes was lost in it, and given the Space Wolves' executioner claims and the notes of the Consul Obsequiari, at least one Legion may have been infested, purged, and then erased.


That's...actually pretty interesting, and an explanation for the "lost legions" that I'd be okay with.

Fighting an entire Legion of zombie-marines would be a pretty cool campaign for the tabletop.

>>51904160

I actually like this a lot. It would further the reference to the lost Roman Legion if they were just wiped out.

And them being mind-controlled/zombified by aliens would be suitably grimdark.

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I've always been a big fan of "primitive" settings, like anything from neolithic to native/tribal to savage/jungle and everything in between. I think it'd be nice to have a decent set for it someday. Taking inspiration from Aboriginal, Native American, Pac Islander, and African lore and mythology and tradition could be neat.

Of course, there's also the looming specter of not!China that I know we have at least one anon fiddling with. I wonder if WotC will ever go that route. It's pretty distinct from Japanese stuff, and they just did an Indian set so it's not like "Kamigawa = the asian set" is how they plan to roll.

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I'd also like to see a set with an "enchantment matters" theme but that goes about actually making them good and useful instead of just tacking them onto things to push an overarching card type theme like Theros did. Bestow could have been cool, especially in a set with Totem Armor as well, and with some blanket costing tweaks. It's really a shame that Morph hard defined what face-down cards are because something like Manifest but making cards in hand into generic Auras that you can then cast later as the actual card could be fun too.

I like the idea behind this card for such a set but can't figure out if I'm lowballing it or not. I should probably put more work into figuring it out myself.

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/ccg/ is dead lately, what gives? It's not even spoiler season yet.

>>51877903
This makes me think the set is going to have a bunch of enchantment I'm going to *want* to sacrifice. Maybe enchantments with death triggers on them? There's some interesting design space there, not too many enchantments that do that.

>>51877606
It'll probably be a while, since Tarkir (especially Jeskai) had some Chinese influence. I think it would suffer the same dilemma Kamigawa did: either make it a watered down, westernized interpretation so the audience will connect with it, or make it more faithful and have the vocal dumb people going "I don't getttttttt it". Personally I've never worried myself too much with catering to those people.

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I've got a Tournament this weekend, are these lists at least decent, or am I retarded? Missions are Show of Force, Supremacy, and Transmission Matrix, and I know there will be a Yu Jing player and a Onyx player, potentially Nomads and USAriadna as well.

I'm a little less impressed with the second list. Double Fiday alpha strike sounds hilariously fun, but I'm worried it might be too gimmicky for a tournament setting.

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Rule question:

1. For 'Reset', rules say I MAY apply Guts Roll rules after winning a FtF WIP roll. Do I choose if I make a guts roll or not, or do I have to?

2. For 'Dodge' it says that one must lay out the dodge special movement (in ARO) before the roll is made.

I was wondering what situations make this relevant? The couple games I played so far, we usually forgot or ignored this, with seemingly no detrimental effect to the game, announcing the dodge movement's path after the roll.

Asking because I aim for a deeper understanding of the rules.

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I like seeing middling and amateur paint jobs and overall schemes. Post an army group shot of yours.

Epic level Wizard if I've ever seen one.

>>51904187
Boring-ass-cgi-fightscene-that-never-fucking-ends +4
Lack-of-story +7
Most-interesting-character-was-a-cgi-cape +1

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=owlbear+stats

>>51901989
cool model

they should be like the soul drinkers. neither chaos or IOM aligned

>>51902076
what would that mean rules wise?

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>>51902088
jokes on you i dont even play

although i know in 30k there were armies of space marines like that. dont know if they got rules though

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Blackshield

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Blackshields

>>51850871
Life support. Fuck assembling Calliopes.

>>51850871
OH GOD WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE

>>51850871
>There's no way Battlefront would be stupid enough to wreck the game with 4th guys, it's fine!
>There's no way the Germans would be stupid enough to invade the Soviet Union tovarisch, it's fine!
>there's no way the Japs would be stupid enough to bomb Pearl harbor and piss off the Yanks guys, it's fine!
>There's no way the Germans would be stupid enough to launch a counterattack through this kind of snow guys, it's fine!

Something something history repeating itself something something I WARNED YOU etc etc.

Trogdor

Burninator. Fukken Awesome.

+4 consummate vees
-1 arm

>>51911634
He was a man.

Why is it that a lot of people seem to think that the alignment system is a straight jacket that evil beings can not escape from?

>>51911274
Because a lot of people who play D&D 3.5 don't understand that RAW is a set of guidelines secondary to the players, GM and story.

>>51911038
Raising some hyper-intelligent magical deathlizards is a campaign in and of itself.

>>51911038
Going by what I remember from the draconomicon, nurture will NOT beat nature, and black dragons in particular won't abide being under another creatures thumb. They sooner choose death.

One might imagine that if they are under the wizards "care" there would be treatments and experimentation that would inevitably explode in his face.

And to be honest, if you want to play a setting where dragons can be unaligned to their inborn nature than dealing with any dragon at all should be a crapshoot.

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>>51910065
Artist name is in the filename

>>51909963
>browsing /tg/ on a regular basis
Does this invalidate the rest of your post then?

>>51909972
it's supposed to be read together with the point below it

>browsing /tg/ on a regular basis and /or taking /tg/ memery seriously

i am tired, leave me alone

>>51909963
>assigning stats and eqipment before even thinking about a name for the character
I do that every time and you're a huge faggot for thinking it's a problem. The name is the cherry on the cake.

>>51908045
>998.M41

It's still being fought for a year later, dingus.

>>51908045
It's on a daemon world. That tends to corrupt tech. The storyline will never advance to the point they'll get it, but if they ever do, expect shenanigans.

>>51908138

It's psychic-based too. That's like double Warp STDs.

I'm listening, op.

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I summon you to fulfill your oath

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None but the Head Chef of Gondor may command me

>>51906927

Then you've got Europe, politically back to the 1200s, but everything's powered by vapor coal and the knights are in powered armor. Nobody can do anything about it because only the coal knights can kill other coal knights.


What does /tg/ think? How would you make something like pic related work? Personally I'm not big on realism, I like the One Big Lie approach. Give them magic coal and then instead of realism you have consistent and logical effects of it.

If I wanted to run something like this what system would I use? I'm kind of feeling GURPS, just for the universality of it. Sure I could cobble together some kind of pseudo-vehicle rules for powered armor if it's not already there.

Just do revisionist history to create the setting. Failing that, time shenanigans. Any number of events could lead up to it.
Maybe there was an apocalypse-level event a long time ago and people have worked their way back up to a WW1 tech level for the most part, but have "schizoid" tech like power armor and the like due to it existing before the big end. In terms of civilization, they're still kingdoms and chivalry and shit.

Maybe chivalry never died, the kingdom and land-granting and knights and peasants system never fell out of style, and in this timeline, there's no such thing as small, cowardly guns outside of duelling pistos, no such thing as planes and tanks- power armor, sure, because that's most akin to the full plate of wars past, big guns for that type of unit who's expected to smite the masses, and everyone carries a giant fuckoff sword because at the end of the day, those trench lines just aren't moving until there's a bloody Highlander-esque swordfight across no-mans-land

Maybe it's just a setting that doesn't have to explain the why and how; the idea of feudalism with WW1-style tech that mixes in elements twenty minutes into the future is badass, and you want a badass setting, so bam, there it is. You're an infantryman for the King's Militia, and barbarians on the border want to pillage, raze, and rape everything on the inside of those giant stone walls. Guess who's job it is to make sure that doesn't happen?

>>51906932
>I like the One Big Lie approach

Well, your One Big Lie is actually resting on a few smaller lies.

1. Compact enough steam power source to make powered armor feasible (meaning your steam power has to be better than modern batteries and fuel cells, which haven't been able to crack this problem just yet). This lie is what's propping up the next two:

2. Governments aren't able to develop/procure their own powered armor, and no other technology is ever developed to level the playing field. I can't really see a way to believably justify this.

3. The armor plating is able to resist "even the most advanced guns" - which, while vague, and given Lie #2, implies things like anti-tank rifles not working on powered armor. This new material is really another Big Lie.

I don't think you need business tycoons to use paramilitary action to break governments; I think regular corporate feudalism/hyper-capitalism/military-industrial complex can get you the exact same effect, with as little or as much interim anarchy as you want. Because somebody WILL sell powered armor to governments (see point #1), and it's hard to argue otherwise.

But yeah, I dig the idea of steampunk, feudal-capitalist states supported by armies of retro powered-armored knights.

>>51906445
I don't see why not at this point, I appreciate the "your guys" argument but I think the 19th and 20th legions are too big to be something that you can really fluff in

I doubt they'll ever do it just because it's too much of a pain though

They where supposedly left blank so that you would make your own.
Also because they forgot to write index astartes articles about them.

I like to think that the Mentor Legion or Space Sharks are one of those original legions.

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>>51906445
The Unknown Primarchs have no legions. They are the legions themselves.