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What are some inherent traits every writer possesses?
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Faggotry
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Language...They gotta have a language.
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A pulse

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“Sports, politics, and religion are the three passions of the badly educated.”
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>1,320 Ratings
Just
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>>9752819
Tell me something I don't know, Gass-man.
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>>9752819
Sports and religion are definitely the passions of the badly educated, but I think that someone can go to college and study political science and what not. I'm not sure what exactly he means by politics being the passion of the badly educated. It's not my particular passion, it drains my energy and makes me feel depressed, but I think there's a lot of interesting things to observe if you're not just talking about trump trump trump trump trump.

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Hi guys. Any body read/reading this? "Fashionable Nonsense", by Sokal and Bricmont.

Basically, it examines a few sacred monsters of the intellectual (mostly leftist) elite and exposes the way they abuse and misunderstand scientific theories to make points about politics or sociology or psychology. I'm only 20% in and it describes Lacan like a complete charlatan.

Anyone who has read this can tell me if it's a good reliable book?
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>>9752742
Of course it's reliable. No one in the sciences takes Lacan seriously
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>>9752747
Judging from the excerpts quoted in the book, I can see why.

I just can't believe a massively respected intellectual like Lacan could be such an immense gibberish-spouting buffoon. I mean, how don't most people notice? There are thousands of PhD students that read him religiously and write thesis about him every year, for fuck's sake. He's one of the most influential thinkers of the last 50 years. He has DISCIPLES, Christ.
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>>9752759

You can get a degree in homeopathy, dude.

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hi just came here to warn you guyes.. do NOT take the ug pill..its extremely depressing

just keep reading the petty philosophers that sell you hope
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>don't remember me
ok
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>>9752682

>me

nice try
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I'm not worried about depressing conclusions but is it conducive to suicide as a favorable outcome?

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>>9752620
I much prefer Hitler's thoughts instead of these continental language games. But it's worth bearing in mind that Wittgeinstein supported the Nazi movement, and for that he earns my respect
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>>9752631
We all enjoy Hitler, but Wittgenstein is good too. I wouldn't say he's either continental or analytic though.
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pleb shit by a hack

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Starting from Marxism, or perhaps a little bit such as of accounts of the social disposition regarding government and economy of the time, and through the 1950s to the revelations of Stalin's purges and the fall of communism: what are a series of essential texts one could read to acquire a thorough breadth of knowledge for understanding this part of history?
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>>9752500
>t. special snowflake liberal feminist cultural marxist 3rd world kabbalan satanic judaic communist egalitarian vegetarian cardigan-wearing submissive homosexual cross-dressing emaciated socialist continental poetry-reading frankist illuminati lizardian bolshevik rap-music-loving emasculated black-lives-matters-supporting degenerate tattoo'd sexually active atheist scarf-wearing anti-capitalist anti-imperialist pacifist self-flaggelating delusional virtue-signalling fact-denying emotional substance-abusing bluepilled existentialist hipster bohemian humanist liberal arts-studying cowardly plebbit-browsing metrosexual freudian Frankensteinian computer-God globalist cuck

Take the redpill, read Gulag Archipelago and see Peterson YouTube videos and you'll be over this nonsense in a week's time
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>>9752500
The Revolution Betrayed
One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich
Maybe The Man Who Love Dogs
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>>9752509
I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not

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How important are physical books for you? E-readers obviously have advantages but I just miss the smell of normal books.
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I can't write on an ereader page and that alone makes me prefer physical books.
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Also do you think the act of physically turning the page can help concentration?
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>>9752246
I don't like scrolling through a neverending wall of text. I need to turn pages and see how thick is the clump of pages I read through that day.

Also, shelves of books are aesthetic.

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I didn't see a thread for eReaders so I thought I would create one.

Kindle or Kobo? I have had a Kindle Keyboard forever and want an upgrade.
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>>9752031
Using an Amazon paperwhite 3, personally don't recommend it, too damn small for reading
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I suggest buying real books. It is the patrician way.
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how to add dictionaries to kindle?
Need a Russian version

>Nobody believes they are a human puppet. Nobody believes they are not making a go of it on their own. Nobody believes that life is not all right. Nobody believes that there is something wrong with the way we have lived all these years. Nobody believes that life is MALIGNANTLY USELESS.
>...except me ;D

Don't you wish you were a genius like Tommy?
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I'm actually much smarter
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>>9751922
Yeah, It would be nice if i was less intelligent so I could mingle with the masses more easily.
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>>9751922
None of you are real, that's why you're all brainlets. I am god.

>scot-free
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>badgoy-central
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>Odysseus spends his days crying on the beach even though he has an immortal gf and everything he could want
What a little pussy, dropped desu
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>>9752057
well no, isn't she keeping him captive?

I started reading this book since everyone keeps bringing up Nietzsche.

I'm having trouble understanding this metaphor about the camel, lion, and the child.

Nietzsche says that we should be like a camel in always wanting more of a burden. I guess to continue the trend of constantly working hard improving oneself, and transcending man's nature.

Then he talks about being a lion. Is he continuing the trend that having too many virtues is putting oneself in a knot? So being a lion is having the freedom to say fuck it, and not blindly follow duty?

And one needs to be like a child to have a "short-term memory". To not let the past beat you down. To approach new experiences like they are new with no negative predisposition?
>All these heaviest things the load-bearing spirit taketh upon itself: and like the camel, which, when laden, hasteneth into the wilderness, so hasteneth the spirit into its wilderness.
But in the loneliest wilderness happeneth the second metamorphosis: here the spirit becometh a lion; freedom will it capture, and lordship in its own wilderness.
Its last Lord it here seeketh: hostile will it be to him, and to its last God; for victory will it struggle with the great dragon.
What is the great dragon which the spirit is no longer inclined to call Lord and God? ‘Thou-shalt,’ is the great dragon called. But the spirit of the lion saith, “I will.”
‘Thou-shalt,’ lieth in its path, sparkling with gold—a scale-covered beast; and on every scale glittereth golden, “Thou shalt!”
The values of a thousand years glitter on those scales, and thus speaketh the mightiest of all dragons: “All the values of things—glitter on me.
All values have already been created, and all created values—do I represent. Verily, there shall be no ‘I will’ any more. Thus speaketh the dragon.
My brethren, wherefore is there need of the lion in the spirit? Why sufficeth not the beast of burden, which renounceth and is reverent?
To create new values—that, even the lion cannot yet accomplish: but to create itself freedom for new creating—that can the might of the lion do.
To create itself freedom, and give a holy Nay even unto duty: for that, my brethren, there is need of the lion.
To assume the ride to new values—that is the most formidable assumption for a load-bearing and reverent spirit. Verily, unto such a spirit it is preying, and the work of a beast of prey.
As its holiest, it once loved ‘Thou-shalt’: now is it forced to find illusion and arbitrariness even in the holiest things, that it may capture freedom from its love: the lion is needed for this capture.

Am I going to have trouble reading this if these pages were a little harder to understand? I get that we most will our own will / have free choice. But this seems kind of convoluted. Forgive me, this is my first book on philosophy.
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he is talking about unspooking yourself. load up for the long haul, turn into a lion that kills the dragon, "thou shalt" (spooks), and then become a child (someone unspooked), from whic you can create your own values and not live by someone else's "thou shalts"

let me know if you still dont get it. dont read it word by word or you might find it harder to understand. i think nietzsche himself gives the metaphor of going "peak to peak"
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>should be like a camel
it's not meant normatively, he describes either the maturity stages of a man, or different spiritual eras of mankind.
maybe both, like Stirner did in "a human life" chapter
http://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/max-stirner-the-ego-and-his-own#toc5

>this is my first book on philosophy.
start with the greeks
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>>9751663
Don't read this first. Ideally, the Greeks, the Bible, philosophers like Kant and Schopenhauer, and then the Safranski biography, Clark's Nietzsche on Truth, and then Nietzsche's BGE, GM (this much at least) + whatever secondary scholarship you need, then Z when you're ready.

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Leave this board and never return if any of these apply to you:

>you read any form of genre fiction
>you barely know your classics
>you tend to believe that if you like a given work, it is justified on an artistic level
>you think everyone's opinion should be accepted and respected
>you speak a single language
>you read contemporary versions of Shakespeare or Milton
>you read for the plot
>you read for solely for entertainment
>you rarely read nonfiction
>you don't have a solid grounding in philosophy
>you don't have at least have some understanding of the Three Tragedians and Homer
>you have little to no understanding of literature outside of your cultural horizon
>you have little to no understanding of literature within your own cultural horizon
>you mostly read contemporary literature
>you believe 'the author is dead'
>you make your literary analysis proceed from ideology
>you think intricate prose is 'pretentious' and that the author 'should just get to the point'
>your rarely read poetry
>you think Rhythm and Rhyme is just useless rules and laws restricting creativity
>you have a hard time explaining why you like a given work
>you have a hard time forming structured and relevant literary criticism
>you tend to refuse to judge works for yourself, rather relying on the opinions of literary authorities
>you rarely read for more than one or two hours straight

What book are you reading?
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>>9751632
Beckett's Trilogy. I was suffering until part two of Molloy.
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>>9751640
Poems of Sir Samuel Ferguson (published 1918)
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>>9751632
You wouldn't allow Milton to post here?

Are there any good novels with particular attention to the aesthetics of clothes?

How do you transcribe such a thing without banal descriptions or alienating a part of your readers who don't know what a cardigan is?
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>>9751523
American Psycho
:^)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Theory_of_the_Leisure_Class

It is at this point that the dress of men falls short of that of women, and for sufficient reason. Conspicuous waste and conspicuous leisure are reputable because they are evidence of pecuniary strength; pecuniary strength is reputable or honorific because, in the last analysis, it argues success and superior force; therefore the evidence of waste and leisure put forth by any individual in his own behalf cannot consistently take such a form or be carried to such a pitch as to argue incapacity or marked discomfort on his part; as the exhibition would in that case show not superior force, but inferiority, and so defeat its own purpose. So, then, wherever wasteful expenditure and the show of abstention from effort is normally, or on an average, carried to the extent of showing obvious discomfort or voluntarily induced physical disability. There the immediate inference is that the individual in question does not perform this wasteful expenditure and undergo this disability for her own personal gain in pecuniary repute, but in behalf of some one else to whom she stands in a relation of economic dependence; a relation which in the last analysis must, in economic theory, reduce itself to a relation of servitude.

To apply this generalization to women's dress, and put the matter in concrete terms: the high heel, the skirt, the impracticable bonnet, the corset, and the general disregard of the wearer's comfort which is an obvious feature of all civilized women's apparel, are so many items of evidence to the effect that in the modern civilized scheme of life the woman is still, in theory, the economic dependent of the man—that, perhaps in a highly idealized sense, she still is the man's chattel. The homely reason for all this conspicuous leisure and attire on the part of women lies in the fact that they are servants to whom, in the differentiation of economic functions, has been delegated the office of putting in evidence their master's ability to pay. There is a marked similarity in these respects between the apparel of women and that of domestic servants, especially liveried servants. In both there is a very elaborate show of unnecessary expensiveness, and in both cases there is also a notable disregard of the physical comfort of the wearer. But the attire of the lady goes farther in its elaborate insistence on the idleness, if not on the physical infirmity of the wearer, than does that of the domestic. And this is as it should be; for in theory, according to the ideal scheme of the pecuniary culture, the lady of the house is the chief menial of the household.
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>>9751531
>t-the master is the r-real slave
The bourgeois was a mistake

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>want to post a shelf pic to show off my $100,000 book collection
>cant be assed to organize my bookshelf to make it look impressive
>hate myself a little more every time another shelf pic thread goes by

any books for this feel /lit?
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yeah I can't be assed either
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>>9751413
Just do it.
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whenever i go to someones apartment and see a book-shelf i cringe, its like when people leave LP's/records laying around or stacked up out in the open
Just get an ebook you pretentious fag

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Otherwise, you'll make memes like fucking this
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>>9751156
How can we trust God? What if he is actually lying to us through angels/prophets?
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>>9751162
The Bible should be titled "The Metaphor" so people like you wouldn't exist.
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>>9751156
if god is good then why does he allow bad thing to happen

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