I never considered this before, /lit/, but am I patrician status?
Just look at the books I'm buying.
>>9234918
Because you've made this thread you've already outed yourself as a pleb.
>>9234927
Damn it, so close.
i started reading emile but after 100 pages about swaddling clothes causing hunchbacks or whatever i was like ok this is not relevant, i guess i should have skipped ahead but i kind of didn't care by that point
It's about time we had a luso thread.
Post what you've been writing, reading, give/ask recommendations, etc
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>I begin my stories with: Bom, como de costume..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMZBZGWMzV8
>I do references to classic authors directly
>introduction is by an inane pop writer rather than an actual scholar or critic
i like william gass's introduction of the recognitions
>>9234892
& his intro to The Anatomy of Melancholy is great, and surprisingly brief.
Fuck you, Scorsese.
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>>9234868
Nah, it's for Dallas-Fort Worth
>>9234881
You're right, that makes a lot more sense <_<
Could Elliot have been saved with the correct teachings?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FTS2tdmyYM
he should have became a tranny
>>9234832
I'd fuck him.
>>9234738
unironically i believe that if he had given his life to jesus he would have been saved
What actually is a deconstruction? What are some examples?
>>9234651
Evangelion
>>9234651
It used to just mean "breaking something down and analyzing it until you fully understand what it is"
now its some loopy postmodern term where you imitate something in a humorous fashion to "deconstruct it"
Tortilla Soup.
Philosophers just flail about within the space of unfalsifiable ideas. This book is no different. Why do people take this more seriously than the man on the street's idea if they're both consistent with scientific consensus? Marketing.
And as soon as scientists discover more stuff, philosophers will stand on their shoulders and claim that, yes, scientists may have completely isolated the neuroalgorithms / particles for consciousness, but scientists can't tell us *unknown*! Science has failed! We NEED philosophy!
Note, I'm not saying that the scientific method can tell us how to live, or that science isn't philosophy, or that there is a single scientific method, or any over reaching shit like that. I'm simply saying that there are infinitely many viewpoints (and criteria for judging viewpoints (and criteria for judging criteria...)) and academic philosophy does not exhaust these. If you point this out to philosophy fans, they will go crazy because you're challenging their dominance of the discourse.
>>9234627
>>9234627
>If you point this out to philosophy fans, they will go crazy because you're challenging their dominance of the discourse.
As someone interested in philosophy, I have to disagree with this stereotype. I'm all about interdisciplinary strategies. Philosophy is pretty robust, but it's "rules" are open enough that it can merge with and gain from science, anthropology, history, art, mathematics, etc.
I think it's important to recongize the limits of a field though. Science's "rules" are much tighter than philosophy or art. So it's a bit hamstrung when it comes certain topics (ethics, aesthetics, epistemology, politics, popular culture).
A lot of the New Atheist crowd seems convinced that Scientific Materialism is answer to everything. You can see this in the attacks people like Dawkins and Hitchens make on the humanities.
I can't speak on Dennet, but I really don't think history will respect Dawkins or Hitchens as anything more than pop culture figures. It doesn't seem like they've contributed much of anything to Science (not an expert on that, personally), or Philosophy (very certain of this) or The Philosophy of Science (which they seem very ignorant of).
On the other side of things, there are people in the humanities who shun science as a dead end. They're missing out and they can be equally obnoxious.
I think anyone interested in Philosophy ought to have at least a basic understanding of the Philosophy of Science. "What is this Thing called Science" is a great place to start. It even has a nice cat on the cover.
>>9234699
I am speaking in the most general terms possible though. I posted dennet's book because it triggered me when I saw it on sci (inb4 trolling, I'm a litizen)
>>9234627
Educate yourself, cretin.
https://archive.org/details/egyptianmytholog00shar
http://www.norron-mytologi.info/diverse/TeutonicMythology1.pdf
>>9234601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpTkDuQI5Uc&t=1354s
http://www.othroerirkindred.com/resources/The%20Nine%20Doors%20Of%20Midgard.pdf
>>9234601
Are you looking for something general and theoretical like The hero with a 1000 faces by Joseph Cambell about mythology in general, or a small lexicon-like book on particular myths, gods and heroes?
This kind of book, but better?
buddhism is for jews who want to move past the bronze age spiritually, but are too committed to zionism to become christian, in short: fuck buddhism
>>9234574
The actual Bible
>>9234574
The Pali canon is huge, multiple times the length of the bible. If you want to become a lay buddhist i would recommend starting with the vinaya and one of the shorter sutras like the diamond sutra.
Or to be more specific, was Conrad?
Finished reading it, had a big debate about it. Before I could even get a word in I got hit with "IT'S HISTORY IT ISN'T RACIST"
I get it trust me I do, I can't tell if Conrad himself was using the narrator as a vessel to speak for himself or if he was just being a realist.
>>9234520
I think he is indifferent towards the Africans in the novel. He is critical of the 'civilized' Europeans, but does not really make the blacks look good either.
90% of the Western Canon were written by people who would be considered racist today. Walt Whitman was antislavery, but he still thought free blacks shouldn't vote
>>9234520
I thought the point was that the Europeans were as capable as being as uncivilized as the Africans which they considered to be savages.
Please recommend me some lit or philosophers for being less depressed/enjoying life more. I'm getting pretty sick of this, meds don't do jack shit.I like Bolano, so you could base recs off that, I guess
this won't work. if meds do jack shit, books do even less
>>9234463
it's worth a try honestly
>>9234453
Murakami's Norwegian Wood made me less depressed, or at least less suicidal, but that may be peculiar to me. It might make you more suicidal. But you've probably already read it.
I found all of Murakami's novels and short story collections enjoyable.
His non-fiction book of interviews of survivors of the 1995 sarin gas attack on the Tokyo metro was fascinating. Don't know if it'll make you less depressed in the long term but it might at least distract you from derpression for a bit.
At what point did Slothrop get figuratively blown up; "scattered across the Zone"? I take this to be a metaphor for rocket blasts demolishing structures and sending great chunks scattering into rubble, the same way Slothrop is apparently scattered across the Zone. The last I remember of him is the poor, lost guy meandering into the wilderness after finding his mouth harp again in the river stream. The final time we see him is when Pig Bodine runs into him by chance in, what was it, either Der Platz or The San Diego. And even then, Slothrop seems barely present. Strange stuff. I admittedly don't get it.
Another confusion is that Enzian's 00001 was being transported by convoy to, theoretically, be fired. Yet we never see that happen. Instead we see Gottfried climbing into the 00000, and then Captain Blicero firing that rocket into... where?
As a matter of fact, are there any good articles or other sources to explore the different ways of interpreting Gravity's Rainbow?
Not OP but I wish someone would respond, need more actual discussion about GR and Pynchon instead of the usual memes
>>9235018
No one here's actually read GR, Anon. Discussion is impossible.
This might help
https://www.ottosell.de/pynchon/rainbow.htm
When reading a novel, how vivid are the pictures you conjure in your mind's eye?
My imagination has become kinda stagnated after years of not reading, a few months ago i picked up a novel for the first time in a long time and found it difficult to vividly imagine anything, even though I'm used to daydreaming often. Especially the faces of the characters, at best it was all like a half-remembered dream. Now after getting through a few books I'm slowly regaining some of that ability, the characters i imagine have gone from B movie caricatures of how they were intended or real actors my mind keeps forcing to cast to actually in some cases impressive visions. I'm still sometimes having issues with picturing places, they tend to keep kind of a disheveled and patched together appearance of a not very vivid dream. Overall I'd say i have a decent visualizing ability, though it's not as concise and consistent as I'd like it to be.
Almost nonexistant. My visualization is usually abstract bullshit and if I don't know what a thing looks like already I won't even bother. Just read the words and move on.
>>9234424
basically like watching a movie but I'm probably more a(r/u)tistic than most people
>>9234433
this and nice dubs. when i read i hear voices, and only see images when the author becomes more intensely descriptive.
on a more autistic note. i loved harry potter as a kid to the point where i would concentrate on creating distinct moving images in my head to further immerse myself in the wizarding world. i did it with pokemon too. so i suppose one could practice doing such a thing. i hear Nikolai Tesla did something similiar.
Can you reach enlightenment from only reading?
just pay your bills for fucks sake
>>9234348
Fuck no. You need to not only listen but teach as well, not just teach your offspring but teach anyone who will listen. Write and rewrite, speak and be spoken to. See and observe, argue and understand. To only read is the fast track way of becoming the furthest from enlightened being on the planet.
Have any philosophers tried to grapple with the concept of the Holy Trinity in religion?
Like theologians?
>>9234267
hopefully one will some day but no philosopher has gotten there yet (that I know of)
>>9234267
>Grapple
there's a bit of disagreement between denominations, but I wouldn't treat the trinity as some unfalsifiable religious concept.
It isnt mentioned directly in the Bible, it's just three aspects that are each(in whole) considered to be expressions of the multifaceted nature of God(in part).
similar to how a nation, say USA could in part refer to the whole of the physical land, or the whole of the people, or the government, or an ambassador or representative. The whole of those entities express the parts of the nation. "Nation" is too multifaceted and vast a concept to encompass or be expressed in a singular component.
In regards to God, The Father is God as we generally regard "Him". The Beginning and the End, YHWH. The Son is The Word of God. not "word" in the human sense of speech, but an expression. This is why The Son is The Word, they are technically the same concept. All theophanies that occur in the Bible: burning bush, God speaking to Abraham, Jesus Christ, etc. are God's Word; the "Son" aspect of the trinity.
The Holy Spirit is the effect of that word on Man. If there are no humans, there is no Holy Spirit- more accurately there is no "vehicle" or medium for the Spirit to be expressed. Gifts of the Spirit, God speaking to people, miracles, etc. are the Holy Spirit.
The Father is the Speaker, The Son is the Word, The Holy Spirit is the effect of that Word.
read John 1:1
I don't have a source, my dad's a pastor and I grew up in the church so feel free to disagree