Are his books worth reading?
Apart from Moby Dick of course
Other than the obvious what's his best book?
>>9231583
Billy budd is goat
His poetry is also damn good
>>9231583
Billy Budd and Bartleby the Scrivener are excellent
I found The Confidence Man boring, repetitive and not worth the slog.
Israel Potter was entertaining, but basically Melville lite. Just something he wrote to pay bills not something with same obsessive brilliance as Moby Dick
what about typee/omoo/mardi?
I just finished reading this. What are some good books like it?
>>9231569
Wasp Factory by Iain Banks
>>9231569
Depends on what you thought of it. How did you interpret the book? I can give you different reccs based on what you took from it but we could have read it completely differently.
Dont read any of ellis's other stuff though. Its OK but this is all he really achieved
>>9231569
Pretty much every other Ellis book is a (slightly worse) variation of the same thing so if you really liked AP the rest will probably be entertaining enough. Less Than Zero is the best one and can be read in a couple hours so try that at the very least.
Thoughts on these things?
Do they have any advantages over cheap tablets for reading ebooks?
If you haven't I recommend going to a store like best buy or Staples with a display one, or checking out a friend's if you can. The display is much much easier on the eyes and pleasant to read on. I love my Paperwhite. I tried to read a physical book again but ended up getting it on my Kindle and reading it on that
>>9231528
Yes- they're cheaper than tablets and they're e-ink, so they're more comfortable to read.
I love how it wasn't mentioned yet, but the only rational reason to get a kindle aside from storage is to pirate books.
I don't know if this is the best place to ask or not, but are there any good/interesting TEDxTalks you guys enjoy?
No, it isn't.
This is the only one that matters because it shows how fucking stupid they are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yFhR1fKWG0
>>9231500
I knew this one would be posted and this was done in a much more clever and entertaining way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZBKX-6Gz6A
There was one fairly interesting talk on physics concerning particle physics, and whether we were heading in the direction of discovery, or endless repetition. The closing thought was something along the lines of having to readjust our perspective for the sciences because there's a chance we have it wrong.
It was a charming thought but through the talk I was just constantly reminded of the 'relativity of wrong'.
If anyone's interested I'll find it.
What is the Natural Born Killers of literature?
Brave New World--
>>9231472
Helter Skelter by Bugliosi
So what's the definitive list of philosophers listed by tier?
>>9231408
From the top of my head:
God Tier: Kant, Hegel, Wittgenstein
Great Tier: Husserl, Marx, Freud
Good Tier: Plato, Aristotle, Heidegger
Fair Tier: Nietzsche, Leibniz, Adorno
Rest aren't worth consideration in a ranking
>>9231408
God: Kant
Top: Plato, Aristotle
High: Hegel, Pierce, Spinoza
Medium: Hume, Hobbes, Aquinas, Heidegger
Low: Descartes, Locke, Neitzche
Shit: Leibniz, Foucault
>>9231427
>Top: Plato, Aristotle
What's your favorite crime fiction /lit/?
the long goodbye
>>9231332
farewell, my lovely
red harvest is pretty good OP
Wait...what the fuck just happened??
>>9231243
>Wait...
Expecting us to believe you just at this moment finished the book and the very first impulse was to make a /lit' thread.
Well, fuck you.
>>9231246
I finished it earlier today, and had other shit going on up til now, dickhead.
Holy... Conrad got fucking destroyed... 247 Likes... don't lie...
Tell her the weak should fear the strong.
damn....absolutely, completely, throughly BTFO....FOREVER,,,,someone get Sarah Fisher a sponsorship
>>9231176
Joseph Conrad was racist for highlighting racism. Also he said nigger, which, as a white woman who refuses to accept context, I cannot let slide.
can you imagine being on /lit/ during the Sokal affair?
what are some other literary scandals you wish you could shitpost through?
Imagine all the good times.
Sokal's hoax is really lame.
Ya man, everything is shit, we know. He also forgets pomo values. Just an aggressively pointless exercise.
>>9231154
>positivism is useful for philosophy and literature
>in primary school
>have different level readers
>on level 15, have great reading retention
>kid on level 25
>thought he was so cool
>was just able to read things easily and had no retention whatsoever
>>9231128
Holyshit, imagine being this intellectually blown the fuck out as a kid you're still insecure about it as an adult
>>9231138
This is from Alain DeBotton's biography
>>9231138
>Assuming OP is an adult
Why did Svidrigailov kill himself? He got more than enough money to live that good life and a completely devoted 16 year old cutie, that'll do whatever he wants.
My first thought was, that he really did poison Marfa and felt guilty about it, yet he never showed remorse or felt bad about it once (it's not even sure if he really did it, but heavily enough implied for me to believe it), so that theory is out of the window. My second thought was, that he was so heartbroken, that Avdotya didn't wanted him, that he thought a life without her is meaningless, but that wouldn't fit his character at all ("Oh, I can have all I want, but I could not have her heart", that crap) and I think Dosto is better than that, so that can't be it either.
Also what's up with that "Going to America" thing?
>>9231095
Spoilers dude come on
He realizes he can't have the 16 year old cutie. I imagine Dostoevsky had him commit suicide in the novel so as to parallel Raskolnikov. They both go through the same problems, i.e. being isolated from society by their ubermensch philosophy, so it makes it seem as if Raskolnikov's only alternative to going to Siberia was suicide, which helps explain his motiviations.
Honestly the only explanation i can come up with is that his own nihilism killed him. (its been like 5 years since i read the book and i don't remember all the details)
What is your favorite story and why?
>The Frolic
>The pacing is perfect, the hints of "but what if", and the final execution is a fearful and insane ending you both did and didn't want to come true.
>>9231069
>Ligotti
>>9231069
>The Frolic
Best C93 song.
Either "Purity" or "The Nightmare Factory"
I just finished Empire of the Sun, this was my first Ballard book and was fantastic, i see that he wrote a lot of... science fiction? is that legit? where to go next?
he was part of the British New Wave, so the SF he wrote wasn't exactly Niven / Heinlein / Clarke, it was more.. uh.. Harlan Ellison with all the bullshit taken out.
He had a trilogy of sf novels that are something.
The Drowned World
The Burning World
The Crystal World
The last is the best.
Crash is good, too.
Atrocity Exhibition is for those who want Burroughs lite.
>>9231121
Really? One short story is about the very time going wrong because someone commited the first murder in space.
Find a flaw.
Fiction
>>9231042
It's boring.
>>9231090
Just because of the dense prose, or is your critique aimed at the plot?