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What is it called when you base the merits of an ideology on the utility it provides? For example, say I endorse Christianity not on the grounds that I am a true believer in the doctrine, but because I think a society that shares a universal spiritual doctrine fares better than one without.

And is this a juvenile way of viewing things?
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Marketing
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>>9723147
Pragmatic.
And kind of.
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Utilitarianism

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Is there anything more cringe worthy than hearing some critiquer talk about a basic topic in that overly puffed up way they talk about obscure philisophy? It's like they're revealing that they're dumb as fuck.

You see it with economics, sometimes on lit.

>It is clear that the recycling of surplus capital caused by the exploitation of labour trivially proves the necessity of a grand committee to mathematically fix commodity prices immanently for the stability of the system within itself..."

And when Zizek talks about Bill Gates extracting rent. LMAO, no one knows what the fuck he's on about. That is such specious reasonng it barely exists
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that the problem with continental philosophers in general

they generally lack the intellectual ability of most analytical philosophers so they "puff" up their language and mix it with obscurity to make themselves look smart

basic dunning-kruger effect
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>philisophy
why didn't you spell it out correctly so my filters would catch this thread?

Anyway, i've took some some economy classes and this is a recurrent theme.

They try their best to make sure the average joe doesn't understand economics or politics.

these are complicated subjects, but, they could be easier to understand if they were taught in a less abrasive way
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>>9723018
it's not that hard to get actually both "recycling" and "Bill Gates" are instances of modern capitalism outsorcing responsabilty to the individual
- recycling = is useless in the grand sceme of things - won't stop the pollution caused by big buiseness but gives the consumer the feeling of doing something good, which might stop them from facing the real problem/doing something about it. So the 'feel good' and `good consciuos' is already inherent in the act of consuming
- In a similar manner Bill Gates is one of the 8(?) people who own more wealth than half the world population, but through donation people will think this is actually something desirable and won't stand up to the 1% even though they keep getting exploited

TL:DR; I D E O L O G I E (at it's finest)]

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what is some good french literature?

more like voltaire, less like camus.
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>>9722866
Schwob
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>>9722866
>ywn NEVER be smiled at by a beautiful woman
Was my birth just a punishment?
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>>9722948
pathetic.

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Poetry general.
This a general dedicate to
-critique
-sharing
-discussion
of poetry.

Try to keep it civil.

I'll start with an experimental poem I wrote recently.


IN MEDIA RES

And now,
as before,
I call upon thee,
the Final,
oh! Muse,
(recently thankthelord arrived)

Instead of me to act upon the sheep.

Black blood, black smoke
As a sacrifice to the Gods.
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>>9722668
do you guys ever talk about published/respected poets or is it only your own poems?
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>>9722668
You're a hack and a copycat.
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Holding a grain of Millet in her beak
The mother rushes to her children
Ten in number, dependent on her
With larger mouths than bodies

Holding the nourishing grain
The mother is in despair
For while there is food
There are ten young ones to feed

Splitting the grain, she feeds them
What could she do? Ten birds to feed

Splitting the atom, you have learnt to kill
Learn to split the grain, like the bird

For there are ten young ones to feed.

I'm looking for books on early Christianity, particularly something focusing on Paul. Any recommendations?
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The New Testament
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I've recently finished 'Le royaume' by Emmanuel Carrère, a pretty good investigation into early Christianity and Luke / Paul. It's interspersed with autobiographical bits, which I didn't care for, but as an investigation into the topic, it's great. I'm sure it's been translated (e.g. 'The Kingdom' or something similar).
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Just gonna dump some infographics on good general Christian books. Some should include early Christian history.

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So, is this supposed to be one of those books that are intentionally shit or do people actually unironically enjoy this?
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>>9722552

t. pleb who can't handle the perspective shifts
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>>9722552
are you supposed to be one of those readers that intentionally has bad opinions or do you actually need everything in a book spoon-fed to you?
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>>9722573
>>9722579
>smug psueds actually think Virginia Woolf is a difficult writer
Hilarious.

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>Hear a lot of quotes that I like from Goethe
>Think about reading Faust because of it, but don't think I'm smart enough to really appreciate it, so I don't

Has reading that book helped anyone on here?
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>>9722491
redpilled guy here, intellectual and not german speaking

in essence it's a decent book, not too great, though. Devil comes and they agree to sell his soul but devil (beezlebob) tells him he'll regret it and so he does. conclusion = christianity is good and you should keep the white race pure
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>>9722504
>red pilled
>intellectual
>it's about christianity and race

non-bait answer: it's a really rich play that that asks a ton of interesting philosophical questions (also critique of the church) and you should read it. I heard the english translation isn't to bad. And don't worry that you won't get all the ideas it's a fun play even on the surface level
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>>9722531
>asks a ton of interesting philosophical questions
Name 5 of them, libcuck

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>notes from the underground: the teenage years
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>>9722487
>young man wanders aimlessly in a cold city, chats up with whores, wonders about his role in a social model he doesn't fit and goes on loud autistic rants in front of normies
Yep. Sounds about right
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i'm 25 and i still relate to Holden Caulfield. always hear about how the point of the book is that Holden is wrong but i don't see how
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>>9722789
I think it's about how his reffusal to fit into a society he sees as full of phonies is the main cause of his own suffering, but I don't really see how you'd really classify that as "wrong"

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Gormenghast thread?
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Autists make the best authors.
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'Suns and the changing of the seasonal moons; the leaves from trees that cannot keep their leaves, and the fish from olive waters have their voices!’

‘Stones have their voices and the quills of birds; the anger of the thorns, the wounded spirits, the antlers, ribs that curve, bread, tears and needles. Blunt boulders and the silence of cold marshes – these have their voices – the insurgent clouds, the cockerel and the worm.’

‘Voices that grind at night from lungs of granite. Lungs of blue air and the white lungs of rivers. All voices haunt all moments of all days; all voices fill the crannies of all regions. Voices that he shall hear when he has listened, and when his ear is tuned to Gormenghast; whose voice is endlessness of endlessness. This is the ancient sound that he must follow. The voice of stones heaped up into grey towers, until he dies across the Groan’s death-turret. And banners are ripped down from wall and buttress and he is carried to the Tower of Towers and laid among the moulderings of his fathers.’
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>>9722444
Hahaha Peake an autist, that's hilarious.

Checked, nevertheless.

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Do you bother with active reading or do you just consume the information? I think it's a waste of time in most cases but simultaneously I can't help but feel like I'm missing out on knowledge everyone else was able to extract by not doing it.
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>>9722408
im redpilled, i.e. against races living among each other and women choosing their own sex partners
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>>9722408
What do you mean by active reading?
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>>9722408
If you aren't actively reading, you aren't reading at all. You're jus the looking at words and turning pages.

Pay attention. Give an effort. Nothing great comes free.

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How do I into Derrida?
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>>9722337
How do I into the methodology?
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How I started was by reading Lacan's seminar on The Purloined Letter and then Derrida's commentary on that seminar.
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Marx, Nietzsche, Freud, Saussure, Heidegger, Lacan

>>9722342
Deconstruction is not a method and cannot be turned into one.

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Is a 40 hours a week, non-intellectual job compatible with reading and writing?
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Can you define non-intellectual? What is a non intellectual job?
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>>9722322
dick sucking
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>>9722326
Say washing dishes

Anyone read this piece of inadvertently crypto-fascist dreck? I seriously wonder how this could come from a left-wing author. It's like he couldn't be more wrong about human drive and motivation.
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>>9722318
There's tons of crypto-fascist philosophy among the British and French New Left.
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>>9722318
bumpity bump
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>>9722329
True. It's why I'm a crypto-fascist.

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>I'm new to reading

What did they mean by this?
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They mean they have only recently added 'reading' to the list of activities they may mention practicing to others. What did you mean by making this thread other than to point out the obvious?
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That they haven't read that many books but now are reading more and more.
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>>9722246
They did not know how to read until now.

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Is "I can fly" a statement??
A statement is s declarative and meaningful sentence which can either be true or false right?
Pic unrelated ofc
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A reboot of OP's thread starring Idris Elba
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>>9722126
Good question OP, might I add to it?

Is "I believe I can fly" a statement?

A statement is a declarative and meaningful sentence which can either be true or false

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>>9722126
Yes, when asked if I would go by train of airplane I replied:
"I can fly",
>>9722298
It means you haven't got the time yet to check if you can pay for a flight.

>Godspeed from the fly-less yogapants

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