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Macbeth and Hamlet are both somewhat special in that they are an opportunity to consider a world predating the onset of the Romanesque era.

Macbeth is like a medieval left-winger, and Hamlet is like a medieval right-winger in some respects. Hamlet could never approve of the French Revolution for example, but Macbeth would be right there at the front like a Voltaire or Robespierre.

Hamlet is an opportunity to consider a time when the world was made of 'softer stuff', and I think that's why I can forgive Branagh's interpretation, although Olivier's has firmer delivery. I haven't seen Gibson in the role, but I remember dispising Kevin Kline's performance in a videotaped form.

>>7690623
>Macbeth is like a medieval left-winger, and Hamlet is like a medieval right-winger in some respects.
Could you elaborate?

>Voltaire
Voltaire died 11 years before the French Revolution.

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Burton's Yorick scene is quite interesting. I guess some people feel it deflated him for them, but I like how he invokes legend, book learning, and then song in order to punctuate it. It's such a tidy, Welsh performance.

Gibson's is made a bit obscene with some initially very bad insert shots, yet it also manages to reveal the actor nakedly. It's the most emotional rendering from what I can tell.

http://youtu.be/UbxMhvcxJJc

I got in trouble for reading this back when I was a freshman in high school. I was on the Rumpus Room chapter and that's what the teacher saw. Lucky I didn't get expelled.

>>7689853
>in trouble for reading a book
hahaha what a cunt

>>7689847
all pomo is homojew degenerate art to be honest. better to keep to the greeks shakespeare and so on

Would you guys answer? Devils are things to be scared so they should be portrait so, but in literature they are intelligent and tricky but also somewhat clumsy and crude. Why is this tradition? Even in Divine Comedy - medieval epic, with idea of learning peoples to be good, and be scare of hell - there is scene of devils throwing themselves into pool of sulphur

>>7686747
I think that being imprevise, having a sense of humor and imense power adds to the fear of them fucking you over for the lulz.

>>7686747
They are portrayed as scary not for any physical trait or ability to horrify, but for the ease with which they beguile and tempt man. It necessarily follows that traits which make them irresistible are depicted in their portrayal (e.g. grotesque to appeal to man's curiosity, funny for his sense of humor so that he may overcome any naturally occurring apprehension at considering that this is a devil he is interacting with).

If a devil were to appear to man with horns and a trident, he would scare him away and then fail in defiling his soul as he aims to do; he has to win man over and to do so, must appear with qualities that attract men.

if you ain't fur it

you agin it

>>7684503
>you can't be leftist unless you hold white guilt social views
What is it with american """liberals""" who haven't the faintest understanding of political views
They can't see further than their own "left/right" scale

>>7684574
oh no. never chat with americans about politics. they are completely fucked up and don't really understand any of the words the way the rest of the world uses them.

Some of the most painfully untalented people I've ever met were people with M.F.A.s

I had a prof pull me aside one time and told me basically, "If you want to write, then go write. Studying writing isn't learning how to write."

Still think it's some of the best advice I ever got.

>>7684195
>Anyone got anything positive to say on the M.F.A.?

I always used to hire them for menial office jobs, because I knew that nothing better would ever come along. They would sit at their desks doing data entry, moannnnning about how this audition fell through, or this bitch was hotter than her, or that she almost had the part but fucking x celebrity walked in, or that this manuscript or that was about to be accepted. And they never quit. They just went on and on until they drove to JFK one day and flew home, never to return.

>>7684195
>Anyone got anything positive to say on the M.F.A.?
It isnt a masters in sociology or psychology

>>7683940
>a chapter a day

Yeah, no.

I've read it a few times but I wouldn't mind going again if there was a group to follow along with. Go for it op

>>7683945
Would this be too much? I know it's going to be dense regardless, but the chapters themselves can't be too much page wise, can they?

>>7681093
>>What are you currently reading
Morning Star. Gonna miss my vulgar space Romans.
>>What are some of your favourite SFF Novels from around the world(non American)?
How can you tell anymore? I don't seek out that information. I read one by a Canadian author about everyone on Earth seeing their future, it sucked. Three Body Problem was pretty cool I guess. And the Inklings, they were great.
>>Who is your new favourite Obscure Authors and from which country do they hail?
Karl Gallagher, extremely technical Traveller-style science fiction. American. My diary tee-bee-eitch. American.
>>Give recs of SFF books you found while visiting other countries
I only traveled in the Hispanosphere, so it probably would have just been magic realism even if I'd looked.

>>7681093
>>What are some of your favourite SFF Novels from around the world(non American)?
Prepare for light novel recs.

>Favorite international SFF
I like Roadside Picnic, which is Russian. I also enjoyed the Witcher series as well, good fantasy, at least the first two collections of short stories. The series kind of goes downhill when it becomes a continuous series.

Does Quantum Thief count? Did he write it in Finnish as well?

>>7688861
Do you realize how uninteresting and worthless of a question that is ?

70-120 since Xmas. I used to read 50-80 before

Three to five hundred, generally.

10 on my bookshelf.

50 - 60 at last count.

Probably about 600 out of the thousand books I own.

I'm working on it, honest.

>>7684802
>translation

>>7684802
Avsey

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>>7684815
>In addition to speaking my native English, I've also acquired the linguistic skills of Deustch, Le Français, pýccкий язы́к, العَرَبِية, Latīna, Ἑλληνιkή Hellēnikḗ, 官話, 日本語, Españoland Italiano

Genuinely black whiteness?

>good
>slam poetry

>That angle
yeaaaah, "poetry"

Check out Child of God

Maybe try some J. G. Ballard.

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>“What is that?” I point to a tapestry across the room from her bed. It looks like a purplish Persian rug. It’s hung up by thumb tacks.

“A tapestry.”

“Oh, I guess I knew that,” a content quiet sets over. I trace the outline of her side with my fingertips. “One time, when I was sick as a kid, real dehydrated, I was sitting on our couch in the living room, and we had this huge tapestry, probably bigger than that entire wall, with some kind of Victorian-looking mural on it, hung from a gold bar across the top behind the couch. And I was so feverish that I was disoriented, and I needed to go pee, and I sat up on the couch and grabbed the corner of the tapestry, looking behind it, and I stood up and put my head behind the tapestry, sort of walking across the couch as I scanned the wall behind the tapestry. My mom asked me what I was doing, and I replied ‘I need to go to the bathroom,’ and then I realized that I couldn’t pee behind the tapestry, so I wondered off to the bathroom, and my dad followed me because he was concerned. I got to the bathroom, started peeing, and passed out, falling backwards. He caught me, which is good, because I would’ve hit my head on the window sill behind me.”

She’s laughing a lot. I’m laying with my chest on her stomach, perked up so that we’re looking at each other. “Bet you didn’t expect that.”

“No,” she giggles, “I didn’t.”

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>>7690624
I dig your writing, got any more examples?

>>7690591
Thanks, any recs if I want to read more about Middle English?

>>7690601
Nope, don't know much about that.