So I'm halfway through this faggot's poetry oeuvre and it fucking blows. Jesus, how pretentious can you get? Why write poetry if your purpose in it is to make it obscure and difficult to understand? So you can feel better about your miserable virgin life by thinking yourself more intellectually sophisticated?
I hope his litcrit and Christian works are somewhat better. Jee-zus.
pleb detected
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>>7686416
>Why write poetry if your purpose in it is to make it obscure and difficult to understand?
If you think Eliot is esoteric holy shit you are a pleb
>>7686452
>references to esoteric arboreal rituals
>needless lines in other languages
>not esoteric
What does /lit/ think of Mary Shelley?
>>7685828
who is this sex fiend?
I think her husband was a great poet laureate. isnt it weird that she never wrote anything before shitting out an entire novel suddenly when he had a long and illustrious career?
>>7685868
Everybody thought it was Percy who wrote it as well, but I guess if they it wasnt written by him it wouldnt have sold any copies. Besides, what is ro actually gain from lying about writing a book?
Looking for authors who specialize in urban settings, miserable characters and plots centered around crime. Preferably modern stuff
Pattern Recognition by William Gibson.
Dosto - Crime and Punishment
But I guess you've read it already
>>7685157
Ryu Murakami if you're up for urban Japan, grisly murders of women / committed by women and some pulpy, yet interesting mind games.
post 'em
Reposting some shelves I guess.
>>7680574
Hey /lit/, how does Aristotle reconcile the idea of fate with his Nichomachean Ethics? The Nichomachean Ethics being practical philosophy. I ask because I was reading The Metaphysics of Morals and Kant tells us that to have practical philosophy we must have free will. The Greeks believed in the power of fate, which conflicts with free will. I just don't get how practical philosophy can exist if the fates control our actions, like the Greeks believed.
Aristotle is so boring
>>7687753
Yeah Nichomachean Ethics is boring. I think Poetics is great, though.
>>7687730
If you look at fate as our innate moral programming then it makes more sense. Idk if that's how the Greeks actually saw it that's just the only sensible explanation I can think of.
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Can I get some reviews for the first chapter of my novel, Short Change? It's about a homeless, drunken dwarf who wins the Mega Millions lottery & has his life change almost overnight.
I'd value 4Chan opinions more than anywhere else frankly. I can take a hit if that's what's honest to you. It'll only make me stronger. Of course I do love compliments too :)
honestly i don't even know what to say.
what the fuck made you decide on a drunken midget millionaire? i tried to read it, but your sylistic eccentricities are very hit-and-miss, and i just can't get over the fact that it's about a drunk midget millionaire. you fucked up mayne.
>>7687713
Thanks for taking the time to read.
This project started as my ode to Bukowski before developing into something much different. But the formula is similar. You have the exploits of a no good drunk but beneath the surface is an exploration of nihilism, existentialism, the struggle of men to understand women, etc.
The first chapter is only about the life of a poor midget in the badlands. I ease the reader into the larger arc after several chapters of poverty & suffering. So of course judge the actual work in the chapter, not my one sentence description of a 72,000 word novel.
Just awful, frankly. Every single attempt at humor falls flat. Your characters are stock characters, reacting in predictable ways to predictable situations. You don't do much to build sympathy for Jean (like blue jean (ugh)), and so far it mostly reads as "lol a drunk midget." I can't offer advice, except to say you should scrap this idea and forget you ever had it. At the very least, read A Confederacy of Dunces or something first if you want to see a HI-larious one-ridiculous-blunder-after-another comedy done right.
Also, I really hope you didn't pay for that cover.
What are the best physical editions I can get of Shakespeare's plays? Complete editions or individual books? I'm interested in getting one with the original text or as close as possible, without excessive extra commentary or comparative text in modern English.
letterpress shakespeare :)
>>7687578
I've preordered the C011ectd W3rkz.
>>7687582
Just looked this up and it's saying £295 for EACH play. That can't be right, can it? Surely it's 295 for the whole set.
I'm an 18 y.o. guy, fresh out of highschool. I am looking to raise my knowledge of good narrative as I hope to, in the future, go out into the world and start writing, myself. The only novels readily available to me are either a) stupid teen fiction (b) things I've already read and comprehend or (c) cookbooks.
Can you guys help me out by posting some good classics as well as not calling me names please? Thanks it helps a lot.
>in this thread post novels that are higher than 1000 on the lexile scale, yet still worth my time.
Pic semi-related, another young mind with a desire to learn.
Heart of Darkness
Obligatory.
>>7685496
Read the sticky damn it.
>>7685496
The Fault in Our Stars.
Is the Bible required reading before tackling most Western literature?
I've read Genesis, Exodus and Revelation but I feel like there's a lot of references I'm missing.
Sort of. But the problem is that, unlike works such as the Iliad, trying to read the Bible just as literature makes you miss a lot of the point.
>>7685388
You have to read the Gospels too.
>see a book
>find out if it's heavily influenced by the bible
>find out which passages
>read those relevant sections
does that cure your autism?
I loved Dubliners, but only enjoyed the first half of Portrait of the Artist.
Would I like Ulysses?
prolly
Why do people put in the time and effort to read these when they could be reading actual books and then watch the fucking show for a bit of escapism?
cause the show poops itself after season 4
Books are much better than films
>>7687446
They are way too long... People get off on all the nuggets GRRM hides throughout and speculate on theories. It's fun, entertaining, but not literature.
Saged.
Who here can tie DFW to Zombies and horror?
>inb4 do your own homework
Only story I can think of is "Incarnations of Burned Children", but I want to tie Infinite Jest in somewhere.
dfw fans are all mindless zombies, and it's horrifying
yw
The Entertainment makes people into creatures that only want the entertainment. Seems pretty zombie-esque to me you fuckin simple bitch
>>7686812
STIRNERIAN UNDEATH IN THE WORKS OF DAVID FOSTER WALLACE: AN APOLOGUE
When the unique one becomes identified with the creative output of their property they have transformed from an infinite creative nothingness into a finite, hollow spectre of the material emanations that they've chosen to champion.
They become less than nothing, sacrificing their state as the foundation of all being in order to become a pale imitation of an imitation. The protean water has become envious of the brittle cup that holds it.
etc. etc. etc. for eight pages and an easy B-
Alright, faggot, post your favorite book and nobody gets hurt.
there's already a thread for fav books. use the catalogue retard
Now and forever.
Nobody gets hurt?? Why would I want to post a book if nobody will get hurt?
Does media affect perception?
And if so does that mean that novels, movies, and so on, need to be socially responsible in both content and form, and judged on that basis?
The artist answers to no one.
>>7684561
Is that Swift?
This is now a Tay Tay thread!
Hey /lit/izens, I've recently been looking at ereaders and I realized that all of the ebooks I've seen have been more expensive than physical copies of said book.. Is this common? Am I just seeing some more expensive authors? Also is the a noticable difference between kindle and kobo prices? Inb4 piracy
wot
>>7682569
Pretty much every kindle e-book is cheaper or significantly cheaper than its print counterpart. The whole selling point of ebooks is how cheap and portable they are compared to print books.
>>7682569
There is no inb4 piracy. If you buy digital books you are as stupid as people who buy individual songs on iTunes. Amazon sets prices high, and there was just a huge court case between Amazon and publishers and authors regarding this. Buy your kindle and pirate books, pretend it's a library of the Internet.