Where do I start with Coetzee?
I'm mostly interested in his novels.
What should I know going in?
then pick a novel that interests you and read it.
Start with the Greeks to be honest family.
Boyhood
Does /lit/ have any prolific writers who post? I'd like to hear from the ones who are actively turning out a lot of work.
>>7687750
Surprisingly, no. All the writers on here are trying to create the next masterwork of literature. You'd think some pissbottle prolific selfpublishing wizard space opera series writers would exist but nope
churning out work is probably not consistent with being on 4chan
>>7687750
I write futanari erotica in amazon.
What did I just read?
lelsorandum
all hail eris
>>7685846
Ive read it 5 times
Why did he choose to bless us?
to mock us
i wish i could have a conversation with him. honestly i'd rather not even know i was talking to him until after the fact. just a conversation about the weather or something.
this guy is a fucking saint
nobody writes literature that seems as fine tuned to my every taste. it feels like cheating to read pynchon. it's too fun, too easy, too exciting.
Hey /lit/
I started getting interested in political philosophy late last year. I've always been interested in politics, but I never really got to the core of the arguments I was hearing and making.
In the last 3-4 months, I've read:
>Plato - Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Phaedo, Republic, Protagoras, Meno, Gorgias, and Laws (I like Plato's stuff a lot)
>Cicero - De Res Publica
>Machiavelli - Discourse on Livy, The Prince
>Hobbes - Leviathan
>Locke - Second Treatise
>Rousseau - Émile, The Social Contract
In the last couple of months, I've started to see some fatal flaws in my previously libertarian ideology. Once I got to Locke and Rousseau, I was cringing the entire time I read their stuff.
I'm starting to grapple with the thought that, no, people really aren't equal at birth morally speaking. If this is true, then notions like democracy and universal suffrage begin to fall apart. I don't claim to be right, which is why I want to read more.
My question is, where should I go from here? Having read what I have, and thinking what I do. What do I read next?
No suggestions? Or should I just post in qtddtot?
>>7687763
This board is slow. An autist will come by and hook you up eventually
>>7687767
Alright cool.
Do you guys buy paperback or hardcover books?
>>7685723
It depends.
Price, as is always a factor, may affect my judgement.
Hardbacks last longer than paperbacks, so if the book is worth keeping for some decades (Since that's how long it'll take for most of us to even finish Harvard's, and Lit's canon), then I'll splurge.
Books I don't know about? Translators you don't know enough to trust? Random books you pick up? Paper back.
Books I intend to hold on to?and intend to let sit there till I get to them
Hardcover.
>>7687858
>>7685723
Cont.
Also, small books? Paperback. Large books? Hardcover.
Small books aren'tUsuallyWorth the price of hardcover, and don't require the protection.
Large books deteriorate and tear easier if paperback. So hardcover is the way to go.
pic related, sometimes stuff is only available in one or the other for a translator/publisher that you trust though.
>>7685723
Usually go with paperback for fiction and hardback for non-fiction and poetry. Most of the non-fic I read only comes out in hardcover anyway, since it's from university presses.
Is the Latin language superior to English?
>>7687508
No.
>>7687508
Yes
About 40% superior.
If you would recommend just 3 books which explain spirit of U.S.A. and why it became superior to ther nations, what could those be?
God favors the protestants.
The crying of lot 49
>>7685727
which is to say if you want to know why the USA is the greatest nation in the history of the world, try reading The Protestant Ethic and The Spirit of Capitalism by Weber
Is happiness possible? If so, is it a goal worthy of pursuit?
Asking because an annoying busybody told me I ought to love myself the other day and I generally disagree with the sentiment. People shouldn't strive to love themselves and human beings are, on the whole, inherently unloveable. The only thing that matters is subsuming oneself in pursuit of one's ambitions. It seems futile to me to strive simply to "be happy".
You aren't even 20'are you? You don't know shit: check back at 25 and again at 30. And what's worse is you probably consider yourself smart.
>>7687449
I consider myself a harmless idiot. I just wanted an answer.
Happiness as a goal doesn't work in my opinion. Happiness is a consequence of your life. If you have no idea what makes you happy, then what are you to do? Look for things that you enjoy, and eventually you will achieve happiness I think, although it's hard to say 'now I am happy'.
Maybe it will take a while before you feel this way, I know I'm not happy at the moment (well a bit but that's because of the bottle of wine) and it takes a lot of work to achieve true happiness.
But happiness as a goal, no, because it's not a clear goal.
What's /lit/'s take on Hesse? Siddhartha is famous as all hell but what about Steppenwolf or Glass Bead Game?
>>7687088
Steppenwolf gets posted here a lot too. No one talks about Glass Bead Game though.
I really enjoyed the Glass Bead Game. Hesse's writing about art is interesting and appealing
>>7687104
I've honestly only ever heard of Siddhartha and Steppenwolf, haven't heard of his other stuff.
Siddhartha is quite good. I didn't come into it looking for anything philosophical and was very pleased by it. I think most people go in expecting some kind of enlightenment from reading it when it really has a very straightforward message.
let's talk about rimbaud
Looks like trap material
did somebody say rimjobs?
So I thought Id give some of the free books on amazon a try,
http://www.amazon.com/Unforeseen-Circumstances-Book-Ethan-Newman-ebook/dp/B01BAC84AE/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1455162721&sr=1-1&keywords=ethan+newman
I thought this book sounded promising but god awful, How can this even be considered a book? Please someone give me your opinion on this Im dying to see what you think, btw Im not trying to post spam, I honestly am disgusted lol. When I recieved the book it was free btw, it must of changed price.. RIP
OP here
Really enjoying the homoerotic undertones of most male characters being described as muscular and sharing "cool" secret handshakes with him. Ethan Newman you must be a very lonely man.
Ah, self-publishing.
Does anyone have those leftist reading recommendations things?
One is a really nice infographic, and another one I've seen was a "How to Read Freud" full of good stuff.
t. right winger bored in university library and want to see the other side
>>7686373
Freud isn't left wing.
dude, if you read that sh*t you're get cheated on
>>7686661
I meant Marx but I was in a rush
Fuck
Thoughts?
I think you should put more effort into making better threads
This thread had no topic. Now it is officially about Ursula le Penguin.
>>7686116
kek
"E. T. 2" is an immensely excellent short film; it comprises a mythologically consolidated narrative which is memetically compressed and encapsulated by my selected OP image.
The OP image's author hacks Deleuze with Bataille: schizo-death via narco-capital: Nick Land provides a virulent nihilism grafted upon mad black Deleuzianism (essentially a philosophical mapping and foundation for analyzing "E. T. 2").
"E. T. 2" begins with a lonely Eurasian man roaming an unidentified city and lamenting his torturous loneliness. An extraterrestrial space-craft crashes as intentionally bad special effects satirizes low-budget science-fiction.
The Eurasian man (comically Naruto-running) approaches alien wreckage and discovers its extraterrestrial erstwhile occupant.
The extraterrestrial reveals his history: he was chased from Earth and thereby never experienced Human life and its innumerable pleasures. The Eurasian man asks if E. T. will become his friend. E. T. acquiesces insultingly.
E. T. begins his tragicomic trajectory: E. T. requests: "Show me a good time: sex, drugs, and women".
What follows is an Aronofsky-esque montage depicting E. T.'s ascension: his life reaches an nigh incomprehensible zenith: intoxication, prostitute-utilization, and friendship. The montage perfectly encapsulates E. T.'s ecstasy and life-maximization.
Yet E. T.'s satisfaction is non-culminated and his thirst for life is nigh incalculably insatiable:
"We can take over the crack game. We can sell the coke on our own." E. T. imperiously intones.
E. T. prepares for his joyous building of his narco-empire and receives a warning regarding these aforementioned narco-imperialistic aspirations.
Another montage commences and encapsulates E. T.'s final orgasmic life-maximization before his demise. The montage is tragically tinged as it depicts E. T.'s coke-snorting hyper-intoxicated apex and his fall's origination.
Temporality and causality are momentarily engulfed by E. T.'s life-maximization as an epic trap composition resounds rapturously.
E T's annihilation actualizes as a primitive Human aggressively brutalizes E. T. as retaliation against E. T.'s narco-imperialism and xeno-encrypted insultation. As brutal blows crash chaotically against E. T. he realizes various philosophical revelations which majestically mapped upon his own terrestrial-experiential experiences...
Part Two:
>"We are born to live. From the moment we are thrown into the universe, we breathe, eat, drink, procreate. It is what we do as living organisms."
E. T. realizes and simultaneously accepts reality's directionless chaos and nihilistic biological imperatives as organic origination.
>"But why would one procreate, let alone find a reason to stay alive, without something to stay alive for?"
E. T. becomes anti-nihilistic: if intrinsic meaning is not reality's inherent nature, then it must be discovered for justifying continued existence.
>"We as humans don't stay alive for the sake of survival , but rather for things that bring purpose; religion, art, music, love. in a endless oblivion of darkness and space, humans are the only species primitive enough to care, You must do what you love."
E. T. finally understands humanity as organisms driven by empyrean purpose rather than mere survival.
>"The best things in life will always end in conflict, that is why we humans are primitive."
E. T. believes life without conflict wherein sheer survival is its sole imperative is not life at all and thereby justifies his narco-sexual life-style of life-maximization.
His philosophy culminates as he intentionally induces annihilating delight of nigh incalculable immensity via over-dosing on cocaine: a fate which may initially appear tragic but was accepted as true life's price by E. T..
The trap soundtrack of "E. T. 2" is also enormously excellent.
Here is "E. T. 2" for your cinematic and analytical enjoyment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OsRPWRJ7PY
Good analysis, OP. However, I would like to get deeper into E.T.'s relationship with the Eurasian man.
To begin with, the matter of the human's race is important: he's a mongrel, not one race or another, and likewise his sexuality is as mixed ("filthy"), and so with his humanity. It's not coincidential that he becomes friends with an alien--it is actually the only possible conclusion for him to connect with some living on the outside.
But that friendship has concequences: firstly, he contracts space herpes after having sex with E.T. It is pretty clear that their intercourse is actually also the only possible true intercourse for them, despite not being homosexual, as in their attempt to obtain the female subjectivity they lack, they have only objectified femininity[1].
Likewise, when E.T. goes missing, it is a doppelgänger of the Eurasian dressed in pink, representing not necessarily his homosexuality, but his soft, penetrable side (like the vaginal or the anal), that searches for him in plead; ironically, he's asking for an alien, being an alien himself, looking for himself.
It becomes obvious then why the Congoloid man becomes so easily enraged when the alien questions his sexuality--not an incidental ad hominem, as his relationship with the Eurasian began in the same way--however unlike the Eurasian, the Congoloid can only reject being called a "faggot"; i.e. lives in fear of his inner, "pinker" side, and so becomes incapable of embracing that which is alien, for good and bad.
It is only through this rejection, the rejection both E.T. and the Eurasian are so accustomed to, that the meaning of life can be found; but not before coming into contact with another reject, a mirror of their own[2]. So the Eurasian is given Truth by his friend, but that Truth is also a reflection of himself; therefore the film ends at a before-skipped, but essential, scene: the touching of the Alien Phallus, in which E.T. shows his true penetrative nature, as a representation of the unknown ingressing into normal life and dirtying, therefore creating new life (and therefore death[3]) once again, in a xeno-paederastic relationship[4].
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[1] A meta-callback to Proust who was said to make prostitutes torture rats as a way to show them perversion which they weren't accustomed to, E.T. becomes the "ride" and the "rider" (a through bisexual, also referencing the Frenchman's sexuality).
[2] A reference to end game Naruto, in which the protagonist friend/lovers are revealed to have been, all the time, the incarnation of two eternal opposing demi-gods, descended from extraterrestrials.
[3] A reference to E.T. causing the end of North American domination in the videogame market due to bad production, that is to say glitches, signifying incompatibility with present reality-systems.
[4] Much like humanity is expected to be children in comparison to space-faring civilization.
>>7684235
Fascinating (perhaps I shall respond with greater intellectual fibrousness later).