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>>7691492
>complains about shitty writing
>doesn't show anything

>tfw you can easily justify your wasted life and the apocalyptic state of your personal finances by presuming that people just don't want to read your work

It's great being a writer, because all you're doing is arguing with yourself.

>>7691541
if people don't read your work then a wasted life and "apocalyptic" personal finances are an inevitable byproduct

>>7691451
Yes Socrates believes that philosophers are the only proper guardians because of their predisposition to use logic and reason with regards to any sort of conflict.

Its been a while since I've read The Republic but iirc his idea was that justice was that which is "good" or "beneficial" to mankind, and injustice was anything that impeded upon the autonomy of another human being.

Glaucon is pronounced "gl-oww-con"

There are tons of great passages in the book, such as the cave allegory and the myth of err.
I would honestly recommend reading over it 2 or 3 more times to try and fully absorb the messages contained within.

Plato's belief that the Philosopher-King would be an ideal guardian of the state arises from two political observation's Plato made after studying history. The first is that power tends to attract those most unqualified to govern. You'll recall the ideal Philosopher-King is a reluctant ruler. Secondly, Plato readily admits that most people don't have knowledge of what is truly good, that is, they are running on instinct not knowledge. Moreover, Plato also realizes that not everyone can devote time to fostering a knowledge of the good, the city needs craftspeople, soldiers, etc. The purpose of the Philosopher-King who is intimately aware of what is good will allow society to prosper under their guidance. The good in them will be inculcated into the masses.

>>7691451
>Socrates' idea about the philosopher being the ideal "guardian" of the state, is that because the philosopher's wisdom lets him see the vainness and injustice of ignorance, slavery, tyranny, etc?
That's related, but it has more to do with the nature of wisdom and what it entails, which is necessarily a knowledge not had by those without wisdom of political things. Mind, this is also qualified by the suggestion that the philosophers of the "city-in-speech" wouldn't want to rule, but would either have to be persuaded somehow, or compelled by force.

>What exactly is socrates' definition of justice? that didn't come clearly to me.
There are two, sort of, and they both come within close proximity of each other. If I'm recalling rightly, Socrates formally defines justice in the city as "minding one's own business and not being a busybody." This is qualified in the slightly later definition by adding "well" to it, which subtly changes Justice. Roughly, we have justice as it manifests for the city, and justice as it manifests for the philosopher, where it amounts to the ordering of the philosopher's soul.

>How the fuck do you pronounce "glaucon"
Glow-con, more or less.

I could never get into it. I read the first few chapters and stopped. I'll finish it one of these days.

I don't really get the whole "remastered full-color" stuff. As far as I know there's only like 2 editions.

>Years ago, when House of Leaves was first being passed around, it was nothing more than a badly bundled heap of paper, parts of which would occasionally surface on the Internet.
Why? Why go the Blair Witch route with your story? Is Danielewski afraid that it won't stand on its own unless he does that?

>>7691410
Hey anon, to be fair, he most likely did it because its cool.
Making something rare doesn't make its content inherently moreso.

>>7691384

It's OK. I enjoyed the parts about the house itself. I think it gets more praise than it is really due, though. Much of its construction is too clever for it's own good, desu.

The Metamorphosis

The Bible

I am seated in an office, surrounded by heads and bodies. My posture is consciously congruent to the shape of my hard chair. This is a cold room in University Administration, wood-walled, Remington-hung, double-windowed against the November heat, insulated from Administrative sounds by the reception area outside, at which Uncle Charles, Mr. deLint and I were lately received.

I am in here.

>>7691302
It's pretty fucking terrible, OP.

Morrissey should stick to writing things that only last 4 minutes at most.

>>7691320
It's not that bad, to be honest. It's fun to read, and it encapsulates the sadness and silliness of human life well. It just needs polishing and it would've been great. It's a solid ghost story about all pervading loneliness.

Have not read him but, I consider him to be one of the best poets of the 20th century.

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>Koopani

Fixed-a for you

>>7691275
And he's not a writer.
probabilmente ghostwriting o shitty prose amico

>>7691275
Can anyone give me some good reasons to/not to go to Rojava and help out the YPG?

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>>7691257
>bung
BUNGHOLLIO

>>7691231
>What do you do when you encounter a word you don't know?
I press on the word, read the definition that appears, then continue reading the book.

>being this bothered by interruptions

it's likely that the word will appear again anyway so all in all a little trouble now will greatly help your understanding in the future

>>7691231
If you stop and google it you will eventually need to do it less often

why are there so many naked lunch threads today?

>>7691184
Most likely the same 2 or 3 shitposters who like to post bait.

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it's well known because of the six-month-long shit-fight in the letters column of the Times literary supplement following an unfavorable review of the book.

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/my_nose_nailed_to_other_peoples_lavatories_edith_sitwell_on_naked_lunch

You are not suppose to use terms specific to culture to critique culture, else you are just being jealous when culture meant something.

It's a good ironic shit post.

What is Carver?

>>7691106
A poor imitation of Bukakke.

>>7691114
You didn't read Boob Cock Skeet nor Carver, aight?

>>7691097
Koreans are such a fucking disaster it's almost saddening.

>>7691097
Thesis

>>7691113
Antithesis

>>This post
Synthesis

>>7691113

Those aren't koreans. Those are japanese. why is it a disaster? They are cute

Is the joke that you're being oblivious about how obvious it is you should see a doctor? I don't get it

>>7690991
Okay.

For five minutes before reading, sit down on the floor facing an undecorated wall.

Focus on your breathing, either counting in increments of four (1,2,3,4,2,2,3,4,3,2,3,4,etc.) or thinking 'in' and 'out.'

After you've got that down, start trying to be aware of every part of your body, starting with your toes, and going up to your shins, your thighs, pelvis, stomach, chest, shoulders and arms, your chin, mouth, and ears, etc.

And then try and hold that awareness. It's okay to think of other things while doing this but you're not supposed to -- don't berate yourself or get frustrated if it happens, just redirect your thoughts back to your breath and your body.

After five minutes, start reading.

>>7691025
Thank you very much
>>7691013
Why? There's nothing wrong with me. I'm not sure what it is but I'm sure it's just unfocused energy or something.

>>7690979
I haven't heard of any of this before. What is this?

>>7690979
Ars Goetia

>>7690979
>Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials
My grandmother had this when I was a little kid and I found it fascinating. She quickly realized it had depictions or at least explanations of aliens fucking and wouldn't let me see it.
Over twenty years later I was helping clean out the obscene amount of garbage and random stuff from her home. This book was the one thing I wanted, but I couldn't find it. She had no idea what I was talking about.

>>7690923
I never read it.
Is on my to-read list alongside with Thousand Cranes by Kawabata

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>>7690923
I thought the same when I finished it but in retrospect I don't think I would have changed the last part at all. I think the big thing is Sensei was born in a time where people did that sort of thing. I think when the general Nogi or whatever his name died it was a sign to Sensei that he too was outdated.

>>7691011
the book probably wouldn't be the same if Sensei read Nietzsche and changed his life around.

What specifically do you mean about wanting more to the last part? I was kind of expecting more from the main character at the time like finding out what happened to his dad but now I believe its better left to our imagination. After the bomb that Sensei dropped I didn't really care about the young guys life