Where do I start with Camus?
At the beginning
it doesnt matter
I read The Stranger a few days ago and loved it. Now I'm reading The Myth of Sisyphus, which is my first attempt at philosophy, and it's really tough to get my head around. Any advice? I'm beginning to think I should have started with the Greeks.
I was going to post this on /pol/ but you guys are much more philosophically astute,
Does the fall of communism prove the argument that humans are inherently evil to be correct? What does this mean for socialism or "democratic socialism" as it's being repackaged as now?
No but it helps
No, how could you ever prove something so trite as "all humans are inherently evil."
You can't even define evil because it's a spook.
The soviet model just proved that bureaucratic centralism doesn't work in the long run. The soviet style planning system had a number of important achievements to its credit. It introduced mass production and greatly increased the output of a number of key industrial sectors, such as oil and steel. It produced the huge number of weapons necessary to emerge victorious from World War II. It provided full employment. It produced the world’s first earth satellite. It invested heavily in human capital. Its educational system was good by international standards, and produced large numbers of qualified people. During the 1950s the USSR enjoyed a golden age with growth rates much in excess of those in the USA or UK. However, soviet planning also had a number of problems. These included: shortages of consumer goods; inability to take full advantage of the world market for goods, capital and people; slow home-grown technical progress; and living standards that lagged behind those in capitalist countries. In addition, the high growth rates of the 1950s obviously gradually declined.
The soviet model was based on the method of material balances which was first developed in the 1930s during the USSR's rapid industrialization; superior input-output style planning was never actually adopted because the material balance system had become to entrenched in the Soviet bureaucratic system.
Should i read old testament if i am christian but not jew?
>>7878183
Yes?
No?
Maybe?
How can I be postmodern, /lit/?
>>7878162
you gotta modernize then go beyond that I mean the word is self-explanatory.
>>7878162
You gotta be contrarian that's all
>>7878162
Find something or someone that was going on before you and call it modern
I'm having a tough time deciding which book to start reading first. Can you help me out?
>George Orwell "1984"
>Adams "Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy"
no, since it doesn't matter, just read whichever you prefer
inb4 >>>reddit
>>7878153
1984. It's much shorter compared to Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy which is actually the first book in it's series. The others being:
The Resteraunt at the End of the Universe, Life, the Universe, and Everything
So Long and Thanks for all the Fish
Don't Panic.
All of them have upwards of twenty five chapters. With Don't Panic being the shortest at twenty five and the finality of the series and So Long and Thanks for all the Fish having 40 plus and epilogue chapter.
On a scale of 0 to 10, how good is this novel guys?
I don't know, it doesn't matter.
>>7878129
A solid 8. Always a good re-read. Ward's translation—
>translation
—is a good guiding light for modern prose style.
Just finished it. Very neat message about society. 8.5/10
Thoughts on him?
I'll get my hands on "The Name of the Rose" in a few days. Is that a good place to start?
>>7878071
Yeah it's fine. Then read Foucault's Pendulum or save it for last. It's his best work and very personal.
He's the Italian Dan Brown.
>>7878074
Dan Brown is italian him
I just watched Jodorowsky's Dune, the documentary about the Dune movie that was never made, and i'm interested to hear what others think of it.
I felt like he would have butchered it! It looked awful. His modifications seemed to me to completely miss the point of the book. Paul dies? His spirit goes into all other people and they speak with his voice? The planet dune itself becomes lush and green and then travels through the universe touching other planets and then disappears?
Furthermore, having Mick Jagger and salvadore dali would have hugely detracted from the film, especially hearing the absurd demands of Dali.
Thank god it never got made. It would have ruined Dune for those who hadn't read it, and would have been a commercial disaster and set back science fiction movies by a decade.
...at least, that's my opinion.
>>7878041
>film should be a direct adaptation of the original source!! I can't understand how you could make a movie based on the universe of a book and still make a good film.
Way to spot a pleb.
And btw, if you knew jodorowski, he doesnt really care about the plot, and you shouldn't too
>2016
>falls for the Jodorowsky's Dune meme
>>7878041
it would've been one of the greatest movies of all time. everything jodorowsky touches turns into gold, like he's some kind of freaky alchemist or something . . .
How do you deal with the concern that your writings will be misinterpreted?
>>7878021
I'm writing The Bible 2, so I really have no fear of how they might interpret it, because it should basically explain itself.
>>7878021
Writing my own commentaries under pseudonyms desu.
>>7878032
And what of understanding the commentaries?
It's endless
Do any of you philosophically-minded /lit/izens live your life according to a particular type of philosophy? If so, how is it working out for you?
existentialism, i'm still in college after 6 years so i think it's going great.
OP here. Up until the age of ~20, I was like most people in the west and lived a life of pretty carefree hedonism. I'd go out drinking/partying at least a couple of nights a week, and try to sleep with strangers. I'd say I was pretty much on autopilot, I wasn't really happy but I was a long way from being depressed.
Then I had a difficult breakup, the depression kicked in, and I started to live a much more stoic life. I stopped caring about the material things I used to go after, and tried to just cultivate the things that made me happy. I stopped drinking, gradually lost contact with my hedonist friends, started doing charity work, and began to pay more attention to mental and physical development. Three years later, and I haven't really got any pleasure out of this way of life either. I'm not religious and I can't bring myself to be, so I can't access any of the deeper spiritual happiness that this way of life should bring. The nicer and more compassionate I am to other people, the more they seem to take advantage of me. I'm unironically having an existential crisis because I can think of nothing important enough to give my life any sort of real purpose, so life just sort of passes me by and I'm completely indifferent to it. I want to re-connect with it and feel really alive again, but I don't know how. I'm considering becoming a hedonist again just to get these base pleasures if nothing else, but I'm not sure that's the right path.
Any wise philosophers got some advice for me?
>>7877933
How do you actually live a life according to existentialism? Isn't existentialism more a problem, and a particular branch of philosophy the solution?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html
http://chronicle.com/article/How-Iowa-Flattened-Literature/144531/
the CIA is at fault for both shitty modern art and bland MFA writing. Thanks lads
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html
This sounds like a 40 page digression in a Pynchon novel.
Pol ;^) is always right
>>7877531
I know this might be a simple question that doesn't deserve a thread but I really don't know where else to go /lit/
where can I download books?
like a reliable website? Only thing i find are shady websites that don't give me any good results.
Also i understand is wrong but I'm a college student with no money for an honest buy.
I've been looking for a Cat's Cradle but i can't find anything.
Any anon can help me out?
Get a job you piece of shit
>>7877518
go to a library
>>7877522
I'm on college for that reason you twat.
how can i make my muse fall in love with me?
>>7877417
You have to be into Muse
same
>>7877417
Lick her feet.
What does /lit/ think of Hawthorne?
I'm reading House of the Seven Gables currently. Beautiful prose, penetrating insight into human interiority, profound statement on place and history.
But Nate, my nigga, your leads are absconding and you give me 16 pages of 'and he was like, dead in his chair and sheeit'.
>>7877399
Well Phil, he's great and all, but had the great misfortune of being born at the same time as Walt and Melville.
Pity it took us till Pynchon to give the Pilgrims the recognition they deserve...
>>7877409
I will agree that Melville is the superior author - perhaps superior to any other author in the English language - but I cannot pretend to understand the alleged appeal of Walt Whitman. He strikes me as rather a talentless little paedophile.
His short stories are also nice OP
picked up a complete collection at a thrift store recently
i'm 22 and have no college degree or credits. i also have no idea what i want to do with my life. what's the best option for me besides offing myself?
>>7877347
>i'm 22 and have no college degree or credits. i also have no idea what i want to do with my life. what's the best option for me besides offing myself?
Welcome to 4chan, where 80% of everyone who browses this board is in the same predicament as you.
Don't off yourself, stop jerking off, stop listening to faggot /mu/ shit. Stop taking life too seriously.
>>7877351
i quit jerking off and drinking. have been lifting three times a week and meditate every morning. feel like i'm getting my shit together i just don't know where to go from here.
>>7877347
find a roommate and start getting your associate's degree while working part-time