Hi /lit/, /fit/izen here. I recently picked up On War by Clausewitz since I enjoy books pertaining to history and more specifically war. But jesus christ I'm only on book 1 chapter 2 but please tell me this gets better over time. All of the stuff covered so far is nothing more than common sense.
Has anyone else read this yet and if so what were your thoughts on it.
It's a comprehensive treatise meant to be read by students
It influenced generations of strategists so it's pretty good
It's fine.
>Common sense
>from /fit/
Kill yourself
>>7882789
I understand that part and it's cultural significance. But I was wondering if it ever goes into more detail instead of speaking in broad generalizations.
ie in detail on tactics etc.
>currently trying to read 7 books
>have backlog of 30+ books
How the fuck do you deal with this? Why do days only have 24 hours.
Just read one at a time fagot
24 hours is enough to read most anything this entire world has to offer. Stop being lazy. Time on 4chan is time wasted.
>>7882761
why don't you learn how to actually read instead of sperging out about your BOOKS I'VE READ checklist.
this is a great book it's a delight
anybody who outright hates it is a monster
>>7882676
tao pls
more like "Look At Meeeee Meee Meeee" amirite guys though
>>7882829
'go to bed tao' is kinda funny to me because 'lit' is 'bed' in french. haha
Reasonably infuriating
"My writing is how I deal with the insanity and brevity and beauty of life. With losing friends, or the world in crisis, or my marriage falling apart. It’s everything I know and feel and need to process. Everything I observe or am shown or try to shield my eyes from."
Honestly, I prefer half the stuff I read in critique threads here. I'd rather read some NEET talking about living with their parents than read someone so terribly fucking pleased with themselves.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/apr/01/kate-tempest-difficult-look-words-pegs-hang-plot-from
>sentence where she lists three things
>sentence where she lists three things
>sentence where she lists three things
>sentence where she lists three things
Wow she's such an intelligent and breathtaking and capable writer
>At the beginning of an idea, there is the feeling that it could go anywhere, but it usually wants to be expressed in a particular way.
first sentence has shit punctuation. DROPPED
Why do you write /lit/?
What is Dave trying to discern here, exactly?
He's not discerning anything. He's saluting sincerity to show how sincere he is about sincerity.
>>7882519
the turgidity of Bloom's lecturesI don't even mind if that doesn't exist as a word, if so I'm actually being sorta Wallacean here
>>7882542
Yeah, Wallace did coin a lot of words. The best writers do (Shakespeare). Reminds me of that thing that one article about him said, something like, "You know you're a good writer when the English language is literally impoverished by your death." Really true.
Should I buy the entire collection of the 1952 great books of the western world for $70
>>7882503
Yes
Yes. I have a set and it's great. some of the most important literature you'll ever read in one set.
If pic related, holy fuck yes, that is a deal bruv
Really, when's the last time you picked up a book and went "I know this is shit but I also know it'll be fun as hell."
Well maybe not 'shit' but something that'll be fun as hell. Maybe not win any awards any time soon but something like a chaser to those long 1,000+ page books about the history of nuclear energy.
Me:
"Hard Luck Hank", about some guy in the distant future who's got skin of steel and works as a negotiator for hire. There's aliens and mutants and corrupt galactic federations and shit.
John Green loved the study of literature. In a 2005 interview he was asked, "And literature is written to be entertaining?" to which he replied emphatically, "Absolutely. My God, to read without joy is stupid."[
>>7882490
At long last, /lit/ has its own boogeyman. Not even a rival website, but an author/youtube celeb.
What a glorious day.
>>7882470
All the warhammer 40k novels I have.
Kierkegaard is apparently one of the most insightful writers on the human condition ever.
Which of his works best backs up this claim
yeh
I still love Nietzsche and Proust but I'm beginning to find that Kierkegaard saw farther than either and was a more penetrating psychologist and thinker (and a positive one too!) Fear and Trembling is a good starting text. Either/Or is a bigger commitment and is less refined but is a fun ride for the most part.
I can't say which work best backs up that claim because his works are all unified and each does different things (being written from different POVs and styles while explicating his philosophy )
I just finished the book, and I have to say it's probably one of my favorite books already. Does anyone else on /lit/ want to discuss different parts of the book?
I read an essay by franzen about this guy and vowed to stay away. Is he actually good? My impression was that he was a bitter reader-hostile "muh masterpiece" asshole. Confirm/deny?
>>7882181
>>7882181
I know the essay you are talking about, and I would have to disagree with Franzen. While he does require the reader to pay attention and get involved with the novel (more so than many other authors) "reader-hostile" isn't exactly accurate. I personally liked the effort Gaddis put into the book, and the amount of effort he required of the reader. I think it really paid off. Granted, it is a long book and takes a lot out of the reader, but I would encourage you to go for it. Even if you aren't interested in the themes and the techniques he uses, I would recommend this book on the prose alone. He is quickly becoming one of my favorite authors.
Hey lit, can you recommend me some lit-tier fantasy. I am looking for something like a Song of Ice and Fire, but with more literary substance.
>>7882162
the Farseer Trilogy is great, and from what I've seen on here is /lit/-approved and quite well loved on this board.
You've done it now. You went full reddit and now the patricians are on their way to own you in high class style. I wouldn't stick around, kid.... if ya know what's good for ya. ;-)
>>7882174
>/lit/
>patricians
It's impossible for 20-something NEET virgins to be a patrician regarding anything except how to masturbate into socks.
Is To The Lighthouse an ok place to start Woolf with or do I really need to read some her earlier works? Should I go straight to The Waves instead?
How long is it?
200 pages, It's a good place to start, but you can go straight ahead to the waves if you want to
It doesn't matter what order you read books. They're not part of a series.
>How long is it?
are you too retarded to google?
>>7881942
Google search doesn't really tell you how many pages a book has desu
Currently I read from four different books a day, two philosophical, one fiction and one historical. Currently I am reading The Apology and Euthyphro, Crime and Punishment, and The Expedition of Cyrus, is this a good path?
lmao 4book
>not reading six books a day
make a thread when you've actually read a book and want to discuss it. until then FUCK OFF
No. The path to becoming patrician is reading 'the half-book' (that is, a book torn into two halves: you must use your bare strength of your hands and forearms to do this otherwise you risk never reaching the heights of a true patrician) of a book, obeying three conditions: it must be read while you are naked, your reading speed must not exceed 1 word per minute, and finally, which is of paramount importance, you must blink your left eyelid 3.43817 times per minute.
Is ugliness a spook?
>tfw fuggo
>tfw hide my face in public behind a book
>tfw will never arouse desire in anyone ever
>tfw keep reading all these love stories
>>7881740
thats rudolf steiner you dipshit
>>7881917
you got spook'd
Why doesn't literature ever try to advance now that we have reached the point where we communicate by meme?
We have powerful meaning operators that go unused. Nobody still codes in assembly these days, it takes too long so they use Python (a higher level language), with its inbuilt libraries (stores of meaning). I'm not saying assembly isn't useful in some situations, it is. Just not all.
As one example: We live in a time where the entire epoch of existentialist literature can be brought up and expressed solely with the word "DUDE".
memes are the decay of language, not the growth.
memes destroy literature, not create it.
>>7881730
Wrong, memes are a potent store of value that are more powerful than words could ever be when used correctly
who is that semon demon with an ugly face?
what are some good books on the history of the greatest country on earth?
>>7881416
Azerbaijan: A Political History
Ancient Azerbaijan: what do we know?
Ancient history of Azerbaijan in the cuneiform sources
Ancient Sources on the History of Azerbaijan
Azerbaijan Since Independence (Studies of Central Asia and the Caucasus)
Azerbaijan: With Excursions To Georgia
Black Garden: Armenia and Azerbaijan Through Peace and War, 10th Year Anniversary Edition, Revised and Updated
>>7881453
niiice