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materialism isn't really fedoric, and if you pay attention to fedoras you might notice they don't exactly follow through with their materialism and don't accept hard determinism
there's lots of idealist edgy rightwing fedoramen on this website right now too
i think they like to post those naked marble aryan men so you can identify them easily

>>7867218

Materialism was already a well-known view among the Greeks before Plato and Aristotle, with advocates such as Democritus, Leucippus, and Empedocles. Arguably Thales was a materialist. It was not a lack of exposure to modern physics or Cartesian skepticism (pyrrhonian skepticism, anyone?) that made Plato and Aristotle hold their views.

For now, maybe try AJ Ayer and Wittgenstein, that would prepare you to see past "ultimate truths" in terms of materialism or idealism or whateverism.

>>7867321
None of the ancient skeptics had found the formulas the universe abides by. You really think they (especially Aristotle) would come up with the same philosophies and accept the pantheon of gods as a given if they had Newton's Principia?

>>7867078
my copy of Lolita is in another castle so I can't look up what Humbert's exact words are, but I feel like Mathilda wouldn't qualify. Are nymphets not the product of idealized dreams, while Mathilda is a corrupt byproduct of reality, a child jaded and prematurely matured by the cruelty of others?

I mean, surely Hit Girl is not a nymphet, and I feel Mathilda leans more in that direction than Dolores.

Lana Del Rey is my muse

>>7867078
>Mathilda
you mean the kids' book by Roald Dahl?

Lovecraft is pretty shit

>>7866862
Tell us what you liked not what you didn't like.

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>>7866863
I couldn't describe the reasons without descending into utter madness.

>>7866728
start with the greeks

>>7866737
the greek buddhists? You mean the stoics? Or are you a mindless memer.

>>7866744
Stoics are quite literally the memest philosophers the world has seen.

>iron mental strength
>directionless
lolwut

also you should probably read some buddhist literature

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>>7866598
Well, it's solid as opposed to fluid. In the sense that it is like an immovable object that lets nothing in or out. No new ideas adopted and no new ideas formed.

Religious literature is pretty much cultist literature to me. They have a tendancy to tell beautiful, intricate stories but then, at the last sentence, they will throw something about their religion into it so as to tie a nice end to it.

Except this upsets me because I feel almost cheated, like I just read several hundred pages of basically, ads. Ads for a particular religion. Not written for the story's sake, but for religious purposes. It can be very subtle or very obtuse, doesn't matter.

Buddhist literature I found is more subtle, in the sense that it doesn't pressure you into anything. But it's still subtle brain-washing.

>>7866567

>Are there any other people like me here?

There are a lot of people who like to make thinly-veiled /adv/ blog posts on this board.

You aren't the only one.

a lot of whats impressive about LOTR is its world building. JRR tolkien created the world, peter jackson just filmed it.

Might add this too:

I loved The Hobbit (the book) and am planning to read the Silmarillion. This is exclusively about the LotR trilogy.

>>7866243
>no soul
You obviously don't know how to read poetry.
The soul is what Jackson stripped out of the novel, not the other way around. Screaming and writhing over a wizard's death is really not worth it considering how fucking old he was, it's fine. Also, how many books have you read with good mourning scenes? Shit like that would read horribly on paper, and if some great flowery eulogy, it slows down the novel (believe it or not, there is pacing in the writing even if you're too bad a reader to appreciate it), and would've been too saccharine after... two lines.
but if this is b8, m8 I rate 8/8

You can go to hell

reddit

>le token "I've been here 1 month and boy have things turned for the worst!" post

/lit/ isn't a spring of constant entertainment, fuck no board is. Every board is infested with people who've slithered away from /b/ in an ungodly pool of their own waste, including you and me. think about that for a second. We're going to shit post every now and then, and certain times of the day and certain months of the year and certain days of the month (e.g. spring break) are much worse than others.

Post-humanism avant la lettre. I like his love for animalx.

One of the most boring book I ever read. I remember the deep and undivided joy I felt after finishing it.

>>7866004
I like it very much.

not all books are meant to be "understood". Just let it take you along for the ride, it might not be for everyone.

>>7865694
Good point anon! I quite enjoyed it but always got the feeling there is some drug related content behind all of that. Like a diary of drugged thoughts and haluzinations

Have a look at the movie, it might partly help

the greeks

People say DFW but they would have to explain it more to me because I don't exactly see it. Wasn't his father into him?

>>7865666
William Gass, who studied under him for a time.

He said something about them being extended conjunctions as would be used in conversations, so that using them would give the work a sort of conversational/colloquial tone, but that doesn't quite make sense, does it, because no one, in normal conversation, uses stuff like that, when it's just back and forth trivialities, but if you notice, you can see them all being used by comedians in their standup.

>>7865628
I think they would be used when one is trying to formulate perfectly, or nuance his speech. In that regard they show a kind of insecurity (that dfw himself seemed to hold as well).

#RAREWALLACE

That's the most flattering picture I've seen of him

It's just you. Some feminists and homosexuals might quote Nietzsche occasionally, and plebs might run with concepts like perspectivism just to enable their own uneducated impudence, but that doesn't mean shit.

>>7866075
Yeah, but a lot of the feminist shit comes from people like Beauvoir, Marx influences a lot of the leftists for obvious reasons, and even some of the philosophers themselves (like Foucault, for example) are left wing.

Surely there is a tie to politics for the Continentals, and the tie is to the left?

>>7865596
Left/right crap is a subset of philosophy, not the other way around

>>7865585
>where are the fat, British Catholic sentimental blowhards
Council housing I imagine.

>>7865594
savage

>>7865594
Grauniad reader detected.

>niezhee
>novelist
ur adorablr kiddo ;)

>>7865500
Thus Spoke Zarathustra was a novel.

>>7865535
Is a novel

>>7865461
Aight. Start reading Dwight Macdonald. Sergej Snegow.

Anything else you want ?

natural trough of the cycle of image board culture, as experienced by one who frequents it heavily

>>7865461
Also, why isn't /lit/ reading to each other some plays on some discoord or skype session ?