Can someone produce any actual reasons to become well read in philosophy?
From what I have read so far, from many different schools of thought, it seems that it's just a bottomless pit of speculation and argument.
Is there any real reason to read philosophy, besides trying to seem erudite, and if so what philosophical works would you recommend?
>Is there any real reason to read philosophy
This is a philosophical question.
>>7886020
understand the basics that everyone builds upon and it's like a key to unlocking all different kinds of thought
it's also good to understand why you think what you think.
start with the greeks.
yes yes very astute of you, philosophy has no practicable justification. here's a lollipop for your penetrating insight
why does /lit/ struggle with this concept so much? Nobody seems to recognize that all you have to do to determine if something is just a meme or actually good is leave /lit/.
pic related. apparently some people on this board really believe that pynch-o is just a meme
>>7886018
But he is just a meme.
>>7886026
if hes a meme then fine but dont imply pynchon is anything but pure brilliance
>>7886018
Who dat? R Crumb? Take that shit to /co/ instead of /lit/.
Brightest people you follow and their respective field.
>Alan Macfarlane
>Anthropology
>David Foster Wallace
>Biology
>lewis seekay
>the human condition
>David Foster Wallace
>Anthropology
If 4chan can create successful visual novels, why can't it create successful novels?
Most novels have only one author, rather than the entire team it takes to develop a game. And there ARE 4chan posters writing novels. /lit/ is fucking full of them.
>>7885965
>/lit/ is full of them
>>7885969
I didn't say any of the novels they were writing were good.
I got a job writing clickbait articles. Can you give me ideas of shit to write about?
>>7885890
Write about how Vaporware A E S T H E T I C S are making Nigerian tweens homogay.
The influence of the Jews on mass media and culture.
The strategically disadvantageous relationship between the USA and Israel.
>So it seems life is pretty shit and meaningless. What do you think, Camus?
>DUDE JUST PRETEND LIKE SISYPHUS WAS HAPPY LMAO
>But rolling a rock up a hill continually until you die appears to be a rather undignified and cosmically pointless existence, one in which the cons outweigh the pros and one whose initial conditions we never asked for nor consulted about.
>DUDE JUST PRETEND ANYWAY LMAO
>>7885842
the sad thing about camus is that he actually believed it.
>>7885842
They call the mindset generated by extreme pain "ecstasy" for a reason.
>>7885842
I know what you mean anon. I felt the same way when I read it.
I would really say that Dan was trying to do was get - I did well, but the death penalty, which the whole affair was contrived reality and I passed out.
Sorry for bad English, amYiddish.
Why can't I stop browsing this piece of shit website and read my book?
because reading is boring and browsing this shitty place allows you to funpost
>>7885655
>reading is boring
>>7885649
why is that image so high fucking resolution?
So Paris and Vienna used to be the places to be for literati.
What cities are there now to go to?
My bedroom desu
There are none. You have to form ties and floating communities with people online who share your interests.
>>7885525
the internet
Daaaamn, just got to the 11th chapter of V. Should I read Faust real fast before I start it or will I be fine without it?
Why haven't you read Faust
>>7885512
>tfw <10% of this board has read faust
>>7885512
Cuz I'm a cuck. Should I read it now?
>inb4 you should read it regardless of V.
I know, and I will. I just want to know if it's necessary or I can keep on with The Pinecone and read it after
post the book(s) you're going through at the moment. doesn't matter if it's /lit/ or not, post it no matter what it is
I'm enjoying it a lot. Although his descriptions might seem prosaic, they are actually ver musical and vivid. The theme of pantheism that springs from the self is beautifully managed too. I'm 256 lines in, but I can see now it's poetic dimensions and achievements.
>>7885367
Fareed Zakaria is a plagiarist establishment hack
is it good, op? he gave the commencement speak when i graduated from college and he did a very poor job.
How do I quit video games to read more? It is a colossal waste of time, and after Dark Souls 3, I plan on reading. Any advice for a pleb like me?
>>7885157
Exit game
Like any other addiction, either get some willpower or die
>not treating reading like a video game
>not leveling up by becoming better read and knowing more philosophy
Fight about Nietzsche, /lit/.
'no'
>>7885126
I know you want it.
>>7885123
Full quote
. . .
God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?
—Nietzsche, The Gay Science, Section 125, tr. Walter Kaufmann
I'm currently reading White Noise, which I love so far. What do you guys think is his best work, and which of his works should I read next?
You've just read his best.
Libra and Running Dog are the followups.
>>7885058
Underworld is a freakin' masterpiece so long as you love his style. Anything from early on except for Ratner's Star is great. Most of the recent stuff is average, except for Point Omega. That is great.
Thanks for the recs guys.
“All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players”
- William Shakespeare
For Goffman, there is no true self (no face behind the masks we wear). We are all actors on a Shakespearean stage, putting on select farces dependent upon the setting and people with whom we are with in order to find a social sense of acceptance.
Thoughts on The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life by Erving Goffman, /lit/?
>>7884931
I'm jelly, I've been wanting to read more of him. I don't know about the no true self idea, though; in his book on Stigma there's a certain amount of acceptance that there's a real self; even if the kinds of selves he imagines are socially, or wholly, constructed selections, the divisions of kind and consequences of stigma/normalcy are portrayed as real.
>>7884944
i mean self in an objective sense. identity and appearance is pretty subjective stuff. as goffman shows, it tends to vary by setting. for example, you don't act the same way you do in a bar as you would at work.
you're spot on about the whole stigma thing. sitgma and deviant groups are definitely real. even if the self is constructed, the consequences of the existence of the concept of self have immediate impact upon reality, especially that of cultural and social groups.
Read a bit of it in second year uni, it's an interesting book and it definitely shaped how I think but I have to admit texts as dense as this are tough. Back to r/books for me I guess
Does anyone study or work in journalism here?
I'm considering it as a career, but I've not sure about what the industry is like and the types of positions that are available
>>7884688
sauce?
Man, boobs are pretty great.
what were we talking about
>>7884716
Feet>tits tbqh