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Absalom, Absalom! is his best novel. It's not as popular as his other works, but it is his best work.

The Snopes Trilogy is also a great work of his. Avoid the novels outside Yoknapatawpha, because he isn't as good a writer when he goes outside his Southern county.

The Unvanquished is also a great work of his.

Faulkner is the primeval Southern gothic writer. I don't think there's anyone before him, aside from Joyce, but they use stream-of-consciousness very differently.

>>8330230
Joyce influenced Faulkner without a doubt.

>>8330241

Since you seem to know a lot about him can I ask you a question about the end of absalom?

When Quentin is telling himself I don't hate it I don't hate it, I got the impression that it was kind of like a realization and that despite all of the South's secrets being revealed Quentin realized that it was his home and that he was actually kind of proud so he's saying it because he finally believes it - I don't hate it!

But then when I read an analysis of it it spoke about this moment and said that Quentin was hopelessly denying it, trying to convince himself that he didnt hate his home and his family.

I've only read it once so I obviously do not have an entire understanding of how Quentin feels about the story but is it undeniable that Quentin is denying it?

>>8330193
i read 3 books by schmitt in a row (those 2 and some other one) a few years back so they meld into each other (iirc they were basically facets of the same point, almost virilio-esque), but i think it's more about how law requires a dictatorship at its base. it's not saying that a more naked dictatorship is preferable, but rather simply pointing out that the core of every regime is self-justifying

Schmitt largely reacts to the neo-kantian trend in law in his time. Which is the idea of the state equating to the order of law, which is a self-referential normative system, that in the end refers back to one ultimate, universal norm.

Schmitt contrasts his view with the neo-kantian through theological terminology. Absolutism, where the state is an entity in its own right, that creates and sustains the necessary conditions for law to exist and take effect, is equated with theism (God has created the world and sustains it, can always interfere with the contingent laws of nature, e.g. miracles). The neo-kantian view is equated with deism (god created the world but left it to itself, the laws of nature are perfect, divine and self-sustainable.

Schmitt's point is that the neo-kantian/deistic view focuses solely on the normal and does not take the state of exception into account. Here it becomes clear that the order of law always rest upon the decision of a sovereign. Thus the state is by nature always absolutist. It is basically right in the vein of the realist tradition, Hobbes and Machiavelli.

An important thing to keep in mind with Schmitt is that he never advocated for a totalitarian state before 1933. Until then he advocated for a small, yet powerful, centralized state organ, clearly distinguished and separated from civil society, that maintains law and order through despotic power. This is very much opposed to totalitarianism, where the state and civil society blends together.

>>8330193
I also think Schmitt is highly relevant today. The whole situation in Turkey illustrates his point rather nicely, right?

Also, for someone looking from the outside in (scandifag here), I think it is not too crazy to label Trump a Schmittian politician, if we take Schmitt's definition of politics in The Concept of the Political. Politics for Schmitt is the state's definition of friend and foe. The state's job is to defend its friends/citizens from its internal and external enemy.

Is this not Trump's image of himself? And does his play on the whole 'Latinos for Trump' thing and his response to the terror attack in Orlando (I will stand with American homosexuals against our enemy, islamists) not illustrate, that his politics are not based on racism, but on defending the people who identify as American against the ultimate enemies in Trump's world: illegal immigrants and Islamic terrorists.

Fuck yes, the word from our sponsors is still there. Fuck me clean bb

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Also, we already wrote 2 books:
The Legacy Of Totalitarianism In A Tundra
and
Hypersphere

And yes, they got published

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23203843-the-legacy-of-totalitarianism-in-a-tundra

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28282177-hypersphere

>>8330054
not as bad as i would have expected, carry on

Start with the Greeks

No such thing

>>8330043
You mean the Arabic translations of the Greek texts, which are the closest we have to original versions?

OP, start with the Qur'an

shoulda just watched the movie, senpai

>>8329553
There is no value, the beats are shit. Shit's in the tumblr realm for a reason, m8

>>8329562
>>8329563
Okay thank you I was hoping this was the case! I hate quitting books, especially short ones, but if it sucks, it sucks.

No.

No. Only The Bible can.

If you disagree you're a fedora tipping nerd loser.

Bad experiences.

>>8327803
>Hey guys, this classic work of objectively brilliant literature that has shaped thought for decades is terrible

>I should know, I'm like super clever and stuff. It's trash. Everyone has been wrong about this book the whole time.

>this isn't a bait thread I swear

>>8327803
Simple yet descriptive writing used to tell a story with a powerful life lesson. What's not to like?

>>8327803
>Why
Because Americans needed something short and easy to canonize and teach, and because of this good old sheepish behavior you have a perfect example of right here >>8327816

I can speak American English and Castellano (poorly). Even though I was raised in bilingual household, I still lack basic Spanish education.
My shame and lack of willpower keeps my NEET self improving my language skills.

French, Spanish, and English.

I'll probably tackle German or a non-Romantic language next.

As for methods simply listening -> speaking -> reading -> writing.

Spanish and English fluently, written Japanese to some extent, basic German and Swedish, some French. I'm at that point in Japanese where learning more requires me to seek some non-beginner material. I'm going to focus on German and Swedish. I learn with Duolingo

Genesis

>>8327171
>In the beginning God made heaven and earth

>>8327171
dude im on pg 404 get on my level

>>8326566
Recommendations:
>Fantasy
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/
>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg/ http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg/

>>8326566
>What's the name of the obligatory space despot of your hard SF novel you're working on?

The Sun, everyone worships the Sun and Two Moons. It's inspired by early Catholicism taken to a pagan extreme in the far future. The main symbol of the See is the Chi-Rho, although to you the reader it feels perverted in its form, due to their pagan worship.

>most competent leader in fantasy literature

Leto II, no contest

>a guy born without an asshole
>a guy born without the ability to have an opinion
>1st guy gets no SJW sympathy because the aspect central to his identity is necessarily private
>2nd guy provokes SJW ire because he doesn't agree/disagree on any issue (which means he disagrees [silence is violence])
>the 2 start an anti-meta-pseudo-movement that doesn't go anywhere for 400 pages

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>>8326405
>>8326449
Love it but can't see how it could really be a novel, maybe a play?

>>8326405

Multi-generational biblical gangster tragedy written in a style hopefully similar to Faulkner and McCarthy. Though the characters experience their politics intensely all of the major characters are deeply flawed and their political stances are usually insincere coping mechanisms.

>prose reinterpretation of the first part of Paradise Lost with a few higher ranking black nationalists after the 1985 MOVE bombing deciding that theyll devote their lives to petty selfish crime instead of doomed idealistic causes
>this leads two of them to become gangbangers and one to kill himself, one gangbanger dies of AIDs and the other has an illegitemate son with a hood skank and a short lived career as low level a crack pusher before going to prison where he is killed by Aryan Brotherhood
>later his bastard son is an intelligent but deeply troubled, self loathing and scared adolescent growing up in north philadelphia who becomes involved with a white girl from out of the city out in an attempt to escape his own life and reach some mythological suburban ideal
>her father was one of the firemen in 1985 who was ordered to stand by and watch the neighborhood burn, and tho he was distressed at the time has grown deeply racist over time to cope with his guilt
>she is a shitty college liberal going to college in the city and getting off on slumming with an oppressed POC
>her brother is an altright borderline neonazi cop who will come to hesitantly accept their relationship because he approves of how self loathing Black MC is, and will be killed in a genuinely unjustified way by a random hoodrat shortly after, driving the alcoholic father to strangle his daughter to death in a drunken rage
>Black MC returns to his hood thoroughly shaken to raise his infant half sister, but is haunted by the fact that he knows he would still leave if he could even if it meant abandoning her

I'll copy paste because of how lazy i am

t's mostly for entertainment and also social commentary on how easy it is to break apart social circles with rumors, toxic relationships, paranoia, and emotional abuse.

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>>8325115
I personally favor this guy right here.

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>>8325115
Do British citizens born in Ireland during the existence of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland count as British?

If not, then pic related.

>>8325162
Can you imagine the warmth of her bosomskin. Damn.

What the fuck kind of question is this

>>8317304
>When I finally caught up with Abraham Trahearne, he was drinking beer with an alcoholic bulldog named Fireball Roberts in a ramshackle joint just outside of Sonoma, California, drinking the heart right out of a fine spring afternoon.

>>8317308
opening lines are important, i just thought it would be neat to hear what ones people enjoyed the most
sorry

I'll take 'meme authors mentioned on /lit/ in the past week' for $400

>>8306822
>basicbooks.jpeg

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True patrician coming through

shit somewhere else you stupid retard

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