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Are characters in today's young adult fiction allowed to say "fuck"? What about the rest of the seven dirty words?
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>>8681076
I suppose girls are allowed to say "tits".
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>>8681076
They say "eff" instead.
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>>8681076

Young adults IRL don't even say "fuck". It's considered uncool to swear.

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A friend got me this for my birthday ironicly. Should i read? It could be pretty interesting seeing how indoctrination works. Also im kinda scared to read? I see myself as a godlike patrician who is impossible to brainwash of course but there have been intelligent people who have been brainwashed before.
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>>8680929
>godlike patrician
>is scared of getting brainwashed by a single book
>about scientology nonetheless
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>>8680929
Bump this is the best shitpost
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>>8680939
Baited

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Do you read more American literature or foreign literature?
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>>8680804
Strictly American. I think its really laughable and edgy when I see people reading books from outside the US
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Foreign. The reverberations of a global shift are more palpable in international writing, contemporary American writing is often too self-masturbatory and lacks urgency.
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American literature is foreign literature

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So i guess iv'e been writing a "book" the past couple of months in secret (don't want any of my friends or family to know about it until it's done). It's about my life and me being brutally honest about it and talking about all the fucked up things that happened to me but also the fucked things i have done (nothing illegal). I have zero background in writing, i hardly read any books and the only reason i started doing this is because i see it as therapy and i think it can help myself and other people. Anyways i think i'm close to being done but then i realized something. I don't know how to edit and format and a book. Iv'e just been writing non stop and haven't even been breaking this shit up into chapters. Where or how can i learn to do these things and really polish, format and edit my "book"?
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An autobiography should ideally be chronological and therefore accessible to the reader. Chapters should separate the book into periods of your life but it'd be forgivable if especially massive events were isolated to single chapters too.

Read a lot to see how the masters approach the craft. Read William Strunk's Elements of Style. Practice.
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>>8680526
I can edit it for you
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post some

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I see a lot of people interested in Infinite Jest here. Some people are eager to jump in, others are intimidated. I've read the book about eleven times, so I just want say a few words and address people who are thinking about reading it or are just beginning.

Before you embark on your journey into the mind of a genius, you have to understand a few things that are very important. When we talk about David Foster Wallace, we’re talking about a man whose I.Q. could not be measured. Past 200, I.Q. tests get imprecise. We don’t know whether we’re dealing with a man with an I.Q. of 200 or 300 or what. When it comes to Wallace-tier geniuses, the standard tests simply don’t apply. You see, Wallace could have entered any field he wanted. He was a real-life Will Hunting. He could’ve been a doctor or a lawyer, or both, if he wanted. He could’ve been a pioneer in physics. He could’ve been a codebreaker for the NSA. But no. He decided to be a writer. He decided to devote his life to aesthetic beauty and to illuminating for us the way to live. That was the beauty and the tragedy of his life. In one way, it’s a blessing to have been born in Wallace’s time, to be able to hear his voice in interviews, to hear him delivering his famous commencement speech, which is already transforming people both intellectually and spiritually. On the other hand, I will surely die before we know even half of the secrets buried within the labyrinth of Infinite Jest. That I consider a curse.

It’s been eighteen years since Infinite Jest was published and scholars have only begun to come to terms with its full implications. This is what you must understand. Wallace reverse-engineered not only the novel, but all of Western literature as well as language itself. Packed within Infinite Jest is Hamlet, The Brothers Karamazov, Gravity’s Rainbow, Ulysses, and everything else. Hell, it even serves as an overview of human history, from dawn to today. It’s a book you could spend a lifetime studying. A lifetime spent in bliss, no doubt. It would be more worthwhile to spend one’s life reading and rereading Infinite Jest than to achieve being “well-read” in the traditional sense.
I don’t say this to intimidate you, but to encourage you. You must understand that, on your first time through, you will not understand everything Wallace is trying to communicate to you. Don’t worry. He knew things about life that we won’t discover for decades. Your job is merely to get on the road. In the decades to come, we may, if we’re lucky, discover scientific applications for the new ways of thinking Wallace gave us. We may have to throw out science altogether. We simply don’t know. For now, we have to be content with our vanguard roles. We are the ones who will break the ground and loosen the soil for Wallace’s future interpreters. This is not only our pleasure, but our duty. And for that, as Wallace famously said, “I wish you way more than luck.”
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>>8680318
I didn't read this whole thing but hi jeremy1122
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DAVID FOSTER WALLACE
GOOD GOOD AMERICAN WRITER
YEAH YEAH YEAH INFINITE JEST
BRIEF IN-TER-VIEWS, WITH HI-DE-OUS MEN
DAVID FOSTER WALLACE, YOU'RE THE BEST WRITER IN THE WOOOORLD
DAVID FOSTER WALLLACCE, YOU'RE THE BEST PERSON TO EVER LIVE ON THIS EARTH
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Poor man's Kafka.

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What are some of the edgiest classic books out there?
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The monk mathew lewis
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maldoror
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>>8680189
Faust is edgy as fuck

who is your favorite contemporary female writer?
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me
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>>8680123
LONDON
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>>8680123
no, it's me

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Do italics used as conveying certain inflection translate to other languages? I have never seen the text of a non-english latin language play with the text on the page visually, not considering signage.

Like: wtf do brackets around certain words or pieces of dialogue in Japanese manga even mean? What is the Eng. version of that???
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>>8680071
Even in English the better practice is to rearrange the sentence so the emphasis is natural.
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>>8680071
Pretty sure the brackets is their way of emphasizing, the english version is italics.
And i'm pretty sure italics is used in most, if not all, languages using the roman alphabet.
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>>8680142
No, that doesn't work, you'd know that if you just tried it.
Also, it'd be extremely restricting prose-vise

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/lit/ what is the best philosophical novel you've ever read, and why? Without revealing the plot please. Pic related is mine so far.
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>>8680059
I bet its your first one as well.

Mine is crime and punishment
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I just love how it tells you that we will all collapse because we just didn't listen.
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Mishima seems like he was onto something with being a gay. What by him should I read?
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>>8679928
Confessions of a Mask

Its really really gay
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Guy on the right is hotter...
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>>8679943
objectively wrong

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Is it possible to create a literary masterpiece out of something like Sonic the Hedgehog, or Ninja Turtles? Like if Nabokov came and write Sonic the Hedgehog with all his talents, could it be a masterpiece? Would the literary world be willing to admit it?
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> Like if ... came and write Sonic the Hedgehog with all his talents, could it be a masterpiece?

possibly

>Would the literary world be willing to admit it?

no
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>>8679568
>Thomas Pynchon Sonic The Hedgehog
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Well I'm writing a verse epic about Dragon Ball Z so maybe if someone with talent steals my idea ...

I'm a Christian who is curious about what Atheists and non-belivers of some extend stand with their logic or their wsy of thinking. Can you please suggest me good psychological books that bash God. I read the bible and have read many strong Christian books including "Not enough faith to be an Atheist", but I'm about to start reading "God is not Great", and as mentioned before want other books like this one.
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Lemme See Hmmmmm...

fritz the Cat
the nine lives of fritz the cat
d duck
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basically any book that isn't inherently christian is atheist, it doesn't need to bash god only distract from his message
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>>8679454
Not true. All books are Christian books as all art is inspired by God.

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So, would this be the old school death metal of literature?
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>>8678640
Not close
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>>8678640

More like doom.

Listen to Earth's discography from Hex onwards. Their albums are directly inspired by Blood Meridian.

My mind also likens Blood Meridian to The Seer by Swans. The whole album, not just the song.
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Is Beckett the Grindcore of literature?

What are some good books about despair? Or themes where things seem hopeless, the boundaries of reality closing tightly around the protagonist and suffocating them? Not looking for emo, angst stuff but I guess I'd still look into it.

Tried reading the killer inside me but it wasn't what I was expecting so maybe I had a bias going into it. Worth a second read?

Also, tess of d'urbervilles. A little melancholic but glad I read it.
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Die leiden des Jungen Werthers - Goethe
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Notes From The Underground - Dosty
The Trouble With Being Born - Cioran
The Philosophy of Redemption - Mainlander
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>>8677616
thanks but these are all memes that only impress adolescents, if at all

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>an intelligent man cannot become anything seriously, and it is only the fool who becomes anything.

Is this true? Is being self reflective and overtly conscious a curse? I, like I imagine many on /lit. relate to the underground man's ennui, Should we strive to be more Fortinbras than Hamlet?
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No, he is just autistic
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To indulge in anything too much is dangerous, and it is the same with overthinking. One must learn to be in control of his mind, not the mind in control of him.
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>>8675321
>Is being self reflective and overtly conscious a curse?
The underground man doesn't have those, he just has paranoia.

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