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/lit/, I have a problem that his been bothering me for months. When reading a book, how exactly am I supposed to gauge how much time has passed between scenes or chapters? Is this a flaw with reading literature-- that it's nearly impossible to determine time lapse, unless the writer specifies how much time has passed?
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Ah, forget about it, just read "Catch-22" - you will like this.
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>>8692240
>Ah, forget about it
I can't, though.
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Bump for interest
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Hey /lit/.
Christmas is coming up and I want to give my mother a great book. She's currently in the process of learning spanish so i've decided to give her a book in original spanish language and i narrowed it down to either Marquez, Borges or Neruda (She's an elderly, humorous lady and wouldn't appreciate Cervantes etc.).
So my question is for all you spanish-reading /lit/bro's: Which one of these writers can easilier be understood if you're not that good at spanish?
Blessings.
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>spanish
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>>8692190
I'm not very sure about Borges, but I would definetely choose Marquez over Neruda.
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>>8692190
I would recommend Neruda as first read, OP. It's easy to get in both languages.
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Apologize.
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I'm sorry.
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>>8692076
I'm sorry, you didn't get it moron.
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I'm sorry that your such a bellend. This book is great.
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How do I into German literature?
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>>8692006
Start with the medieval epics
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>>8692006
OV or translated?
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>>8692043
>OV or translated?
Translated, really. I'm just learning German, so if you can also recommend books for beginners, that would be cool. But for right now, I'm just focused on reading some of the German classics.
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Post the last word you saw and had to look up
>perspicacity
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Perspicacity
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veridical
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cosh
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I'm writing a novel, and I'm doing some research for an upper class character. The story is set in the present day. I haven't decided his nationality yet.
He's supposed to be as upper class as a person can get without being in the public eye, so he's not royalty (though he could have an obscure aristocratic title, e.g. Count von Kuschenpuschen,) not from a political dynasty (e.g. not a Bush or Kennedy type), not from an industrial or commercial dynasty (e.g. not a Krupp or Rockefeller type), etc. He's part of the wallpaper, not a big name.
It's kind of hard to conceptualize these sub-elite types, because they're not high profile. It's not easy to just extract a stereotype from pop culture and run with it, which is why I'm especially interested in this type. I like things that aren't obvious.
How would you describe the lives of people like these, /lit/? Who are they and where do they come from? What are their values, who do they know, what do they do?
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>>8691975
look toward martin shkreli before he became infamous
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>>8691975
https://www.amazon.com/Class-Through-American-Status-System/dp/0671792253
This is one of the better works on the American class structure. It talks in detail about the out-of-sight class, as well as all the gradations of the lower and middle classes.
I don't know about other nationalities.
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>>8691975
he could very well be a reclusive founder of a giant tech firm. perhaps he still runs it as ceo, perhaps he took a buyout and merely sits on the board of directors (and votes by proxy, of course).
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>no nobel
please, that organization has no fucking credibility at all.
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The Nobel Committee is a comedy organization. In all of human history there hasn't been a bit of political satire as funny as Kissinger getting the Peace Prize.
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>>8691889
way too many swedes have won it too
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>>8691900
I didn't knew this. Jesus Christ Henry fucking Kissinger and Barack Obama, the committee for the Nobel of Peace is just a shitposting junta, isn't it?
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>you will never live a lifestyle this literary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIGaVUO1kLI
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>>8691852
>arguing whether dickens or austen is the greatest british novelist
lol
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>>8691988
I bet you think DFW is the greatest novelist in history
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>>8691995
and i bet you dont, pseud
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What happened?
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Memes.
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>>8691792
Colour film?
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>>8691847
Pynchon in black and white looks more fly than John Green in color
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What does /lit/ think of such mena thinkers as Fakhr Al-Din Al-Razi, Ibn al-Rawandi, Abu Bakr al-Razi, Abu-I-Husayn Al-Basri and the Mu'tazili school?
Halal as fuck habibi or haram behead the kaffir?
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explain picture
is that from tess?
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>>8691797
Pic related only to attract people to thread
Yes indeed it is from Tess
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>>8691787
Oh and why I made this thread is that I've been thinking if Islam is at all compatible modern Europe, so I ended up researching some rational Islam and wondering that could Europe make Islam rational in the same way we made Christianity rational since, as Bauer put it, European Christianity owes more to Stoicism than Judaism.
It seems though the rationality based Mu'tazili schools texts are hard to come by and I'm not ready to invest 60 euros per book in stores.
So ITT: Civilized discussion on the uses of Islam, Islam in Europe, rationality in religion and so forth
ITT: We badly compare writers to each other.
I'll start with an obvious one.
Yukio Mishima is the Asuka to Osamu Dazai's Rei.
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Borges is the asuka to cortazar rei.
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Pynchon is the Bugs Bunny to Gaddis's Daffy Duck
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DFW is the Asuka to Pynchon Rei
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How true is this /lit/? I just want to stay with my books.
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My head got so big I had to cut back. Just be careful and you'll have no trouble
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>>8691704
You can stay with your books while spending 45 minutes every other day doing exercises.
The Greeks did it, Mishima did it, Hemmmmingway did it.
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How long does it take to work out in a day? One hour or two? You can do both.
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What are some good modern essayists?
I've been reading Schopenhauer, Ludovici, Seneca, de Maistre, de Montaigne, Emerson, but nothing written relatively recently.
I was recommended Sloterdijk, but I'm looking for more.
Share your essay recommendations
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Borges, Roger Kimball, Chris Hitchens
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Ludovici is mindnumbingly brilliant.
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Gore Vidal
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https://libraryofbabel.info/
Has anyone ever found anything just by clicking on random?
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>>8691632
There will be little snippets that will seem significant if someone is trying to find significance, but the point of this is that, in the face of such seeming abundance of information, the overwhelming majority of it is meaningless noise
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I found the entire story of The Circular Ruins
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yeah. the fuckers had the nerve to send me a fucking contract, then wait a month after i returned it before they said "we aren't accepting submissions."
i could lawyer up, but i'd rather claw my own eyes out and eat them before i give any money to a fucking lawyer.
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>>8691549
>missed a comma
>>here back
you obviously haven't
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>>8691773
I wouldn't want to read the book of someone who is willingly giving up his ability to wield the law
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I've just finished the first 3 pages.
Its going OK, haven't decided on a title yet though