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Best books about the philosophy of cinema.
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>>9050116
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang by Pauline Kael.
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The Magic Lantern (Bergman), Something like an autobiography (Kurosawa), Godard on Godard, Film Form (Eisenstein)
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>Nobody mentions Notes on Cinematography
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>tfw too happy to be a good writer
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>tfw been completely miserable my entire life
>automatically grandmaster of expression
kinda comfy desu
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>>9050085
>tfw not happy enough to be a writer
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>tfw gay enough to be a good writer but not masc enough
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The month is over.
What books did you finish in January? Which one was your favourite and why? Which one was the worst and why?
This is my list:
>Sun and Steel (Mishima)
>¡Qué Vergüenza! (Paulina Flores)
>The Kreutzer Sonata (Leo Tolstoy)
>Antes del Fin (Ernesto Sabato)
>Bartleby the Scrivener (Herman Melville)
>My Struggle #4 (Karl Ove Knausgaard)
My favourite is Antes del Fin ("Before the End"), the memoirs of Sabato. Just a book full of ideas, angst and, at the same time, hope, Interesting to read the last thoughts of a dying man.
I didn´t really like Bartleby. It was a disappointment. Perhaps I was hoping for something more. Perhaps I didn´t get it. Beautifully written, but kind of pointless.
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>Winesburg, Ohio
>The Aleph
>A Good Man is Hard to Find
>The Idiot
mostly cleaning up last month's reads
Winesburg, Ohio was probably my favorite, but A Good Man and The Aleph come damn close to it. comfiest book I've ever read, the themes were varied and characters were well developed. It deserves its title of "America's Dubliners", I'll probably reread it more than once.
Honestly my least favorite was The Idiot. It was twice as long as it needed to be. The parts that I considered invaluable were spread through way too much plot fluff; Dostoyevsky kept reiterating himself and digressing, losing my attention. That being said, Avsey's translation is top notch.
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>ya. i could kill you with this book. nothing personal.
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Is pic related good? How does it compare to Gravity's Rainbow and Mason & Dixon?
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pinecone
ha
like leaves
branches
pinecone flapping in the breeze
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it's my least favorite of his, a HUGE step down if you've only read GR and Mason & Dixon, none of the fragmentary or abstract storytelling of Gravity's Rainbow, not nearly as beautifully written or well researched as Mason & Dixon, not even on par with his lesser works like Inherent Vice or Vineland - but still a pretty good read on its own merits.
it reads like a floaty satirical pulp crime/political thriller with a little 2000's cyberpunk in there. if you like late william gibson, the deus ex video games or matrix-era cyberthrillers and don't go in expecting anything high-level pynchon you'll probably enjoy it.
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>>9050079
I thought it was pretty bad.
Haven't read Mason and Dixon but it's inferior to GR and ATD
What's the best book/s on Joan of Arc? Biographies, minutes of her trial, whatever is very well-regarded.
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The Mark Twain one is an easy read but I'm not really sure how accurate it is.
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>>9050013
bumping out of interest
i do recall kiddie historian Terry Deary writing a book called The Real Joan of Arc or something. Have wanted to read it since i was 12 but never got around to it
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>>9050056
found it lol
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/120871.The_Real_Joan_Of_Arc_
10/10 perfect score too
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Master/Salve Morality and Religion
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Nietzsche spoke of morality being determined by the ruling group who controls a culture and the difference between master and slave morality. In Western civilization he considered Greco-Roman culture to be based on master morality because its values were created by a conquering aristocracy. Nordic paganism is also has master morality for this reason. He also stated that Judaism and Christianity were both created from slave morality as the weaker members of society sought to show their values were superior through an inversion process via the priestly class. Islam however, even though it is an Abrahamic religion, is derived from master morality because Mohammed was a conquering war lord.
Switching to Eastern thought, it would appear that Buddhism and Confucian thought are derived from slave morality, but Hinduism is an outlier to the dichotomy. The caste system appears to be a synthesis of master and slave morality because there are castes for both the warriors and the priests, so there is a detente between the two warring elite factions. From a Hegelian standpoint, this synthesis could be the best compromise between social groups and regarding morality.
Should we all take the poo in loo pill to overcome the master/slave dichotomy?
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>>9049983
>Should we all take the poo in loo pill to overcome the master/slave dichotomy?
You're asking if we should admit upper, middle, and lower class exists?
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>>9049983
>Misunderstanding master / slave dialectics / hegelian triad this bad.
>poo in loo pill
Fuck off out of /lit/ , im sick of /pol/'s influence.
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>>9049983
If anything that's the worst possible outcome, according to Noetzsche.
You don't overcome any flaw of the slave/morality system through a caste system. Do you really think that the caste system is life-affirming in the slightest?
It's just a mix of moral systems that, according to Nietzsche, ought to be destroyed.
Also Nietzsche is not an Hegelian, and he clearly states in his writings that we need to completely destroy that dichotomy and come up with something new: to amalgamate them would be a failure.
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>For this novel, Murakami received the Yomiuri Literary Award, which was awarded to him by one of his harshest former critics, Kenzaburō Ōe.
What are some other examples of authors being forced to pretend they like other authors?
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ITT: OP is an idiot, Murakami is a good writer and post yfw he gets nobel for his next book
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>>9049969
>An actual writer getting a nobel
In 2015 it went to a journalist
In 2016 it went to a songwriter
2017 will be Banksy or some other graffiti artist
2018 will be Kayla (formerly Kyle), fictional protagonist of a children's book.
2019 will be the color ochre
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>>9049997
2020 will be God.
2021 will be no more.
Just wait.
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What did they mean by this?
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It's a liberal cuck artsy thing.
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they meant that yar' up a tree without a paddle
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>>9049764
It's extra space for note taking.
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Isn't it hypocritical how Nietzsche rallied against "lower men" and glorified the Ubermensch when he himself was sickly, lonely, and mentally ill? Was his philosophy just a coping mechanism for his inherent inferiority?
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are you serious?
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>glorified the blond beast
>had brown hair
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>>9049732
"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes."
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Has there ever been a book that was actually "deep", or are they all just pseudo philosophical concepts dressed up in pretty words? Give an example of a "deep" book, i dare you.
Protip: pic related is not "deep"
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>>9049702
Philosophy is deep.
What are you on about?
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>>9049713
Well yeah. I mean literature
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>>9049702
Deep is independent to the reader. Read more.
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I mean not as a writer, but as a meme. Through the humble toil of this website, Dave has ascended. What used to be just another voice in the endless and formless dialogue of literature, has become a constant companion, a spiritual guide to all of us. Never before has a writer been so close to us, existentially. We hear the words of his text, yes, but also the memes, murmuring through our lives. We see his face reacting to everyday occurrences: his smile, his divine laugh, and all the other images that have so slowly constructed him in our paltry and dreaming minds. He watches over us all, a tender god reacting and laughing at our antics, channeling our thought and ever shaping our language. We write, we laugh to ourselves at our wit, and we choose a picture of the great Dave to accompany it, perhaps pausing for a brief prayer in his name. We connect to each other not with the pure expression of our thoughts, but with this expression as enframed by the Dave with which it is accompanied. The limits of Dave become also the limits of our language. It is he who shapes our thought in its moments of connection with others. Our conversations are not simply between us, but of an "us" guided together by Dave. He is the gatekeeper of our connection and our loneliness, that which constructs and destroys the boundaries necessary for our sundry existence; that which leads to both the greatest moments of love and the deepest abyss of solipsism; that which gives us meaning to ever reach towards, for connection could not be striven for if there were not disconnection to oppose it. I say this humbly as one of the many profits of Dave, our lord:
May the abiding river of our love and loneliness be ever shaped by your hands, oh Dave; may our yearnings and strivings be ever in your care, and may they dance and rest in your fingers; may our cries ring out to you, and may they ring also to deaf ears; may our tears and laughter sing through our language, and may it echo and peal, or fall damply to the floor; oh Dave, may you give us each other, and may you give us ourselves.
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If he knew how much he meant to us would he have survived?
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This is where Dave hanged himself. He nailed his belt to the central cross beam of the patio cover, stood up on a chair and fastened the belt around his neck, duct taped his hands behind his back, then took one last, deep breath. He thought of the letter he left inside for Karen, winced, and momentarily considered going back in to revise it. Behind the the sliding doors his two dogs stared up at him, tails wagging, having nosed the curtain aside that Dave had closed to spare them the confusion of seeing his end. "I'm so sorry", he thought, reflecting on their unselfconscious love, something eternally beyond his grasp. He looked out over the garden, watching the quiet breeze play on the leaves. It all looked so mechanical. Dave shut his eyes hard and clenched his teeth. The sound of a distant lawn mower echoed softly across the patio, followed by the crash of a kicked chair, then muffled barks through glass. And Lo.
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Hey /lit/,
I was wondering if you had any books for this kind of feel:
I'm always being an annoying eccentric kid (I'm 18), and I never feel in place, I always feel like I don't know anyone and I have a tendency to push people away, I am going back on my adhd meds to feel normal again (even though they give me panic attacks). I've read The Stranger, and I know it's unrelated, just felt that that was a good thing to note.
Pic unrelated.
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>>9049529
Sidhartha or En Route
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I was going to recommend stuff, but got triggered by reading that you like The Stranger.
Camus was a shit writer.
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Red pill me on Jung. Also, which of his books are the ones where he speaks about Jungian typology and the cognitive functions?
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>pic related
He also mentions them a little in Man and His Symbols
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What's some essential Jung where should I start and where next?
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Hello /lit/
I decided to write a satire novel and realized that the art of writing is something to be worked on on my part.
So fellow novel writers, how do you write your novels? Do you just type up the whole story regardless if it is crappy and then revise as you read down the story? What is your prefer method of writing the setting and story? Do any of you use an outline?
I'm just curious on the methodology that you guys may take. And any tips or resources would be nice to have. Thank you.
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One chapter at a time.
And the revise it over and over again and never be satisfied with your work then give up because you'll never be the next James Joyce
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>>9049520
Thank you. And I'm not looking to be the next James Joyce. I just want to write a a coherent novel.
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Start smaller than a novel. Write a few novellas and get at least a little bit of your worst writing out of the way while learning the rudiments.
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I just saw the movie and I have a question for those who read the book:
>Does Patrick Bateman really works or he just sits in his office (where he has a place juste because he is related to wealthy and influential people) and do nothing all day, just pretending to actually work?
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>>9049484
Well in the book he does reference resturants where he took japanese clients to discuss businuess, and his jealousy of paul owen getting the fischer account is much more described. But he only works to fit in because his dad owns the company
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>>9049484
The point of the narrative in the book is that you can't determine what is true and what isn't
It's all about ambiguity
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>>9049484
He's a stockbroker.