Master/Salve Morality and Religion

>>9049983
>Should we all take the poo in loo pill to overcome the master/slave dichotomy?

You're asking if we should admit upper, middle, and lower class exists?

>>9049983
>Misunderstanding master / slave dialectics / hegelian triad this bad.

>poo in loo pill
Fuck off out of /lit/ , im sick of /pol/'s influence.

>>9049983
If anything that's the worst possible outcome, according to Noetzsche.
You don't overcome any flaw of the slave/morality system through a caste system. Do you really think that the caste system is life-affirming in the slightest?
It's just a mix of moral systems that, according to Nietzsche, ought to be destroyed.
Also Nietzsche is not an Hegelian, and he clearly states in his writings that we need to completely destroy that dichotomy and come up with something new: to amalgamate them would be a failure.

Anarcho primitivism is the true uberman pill

>>9050389
A caste system isn't life affirming in the slightest for the majority, but creates a necessary role for both warrior and elite factions. Even in master morality societies, the reality is that only a small percentage of the population is composed of masters and the majority is made up of slaves. Sparta was maybe 10% Spartans and 90% helots. It therefor may be possible that a caste system is life affirming for the elite and not the majority.

Nietzsche wasn't a Hegelian, but he created a dichotomous system that can be interpreted in a Hegelian fashion. Alternatively, his theories could be parsed through a deconstructionist filter. The larger point is that he created a binary system that is worth trying to take apart.

>>9050686
>but creates a necessary role for both warrior and elite factions.

Nietzsche wasn't an elitist fpr the sake of it, in fact he despised his contemporary aristocracy, with very few exceptions.
A better question is: would such a system promote the people that Nietzsche deemed as most virtuos at the top of that society? Given that the casted system is rooted in hereditariety and meaningless social norms I'd say that the answer of that question is a strong no.

>It therefor may be possible that a caste system is life affirming for the elite and not the majority.

With the same logic you can justify any sort of society. Yet there are many contradiction with Nietschean thought.
Who dos the caste society benefits, and on what premises? Would have Nietzsche accepted any of them? Does this society produce strong, creative men, who lives in a system in wich their will can be exerted?
Again, no, at least when we're talking about the caste system. I don't see, for example, how could have Nietzsche accepted the traditional premises on wich the entire society is built upon. N. would have been a harsh critic of that.

>Nietzsche wasn't a Hegelian, but he created a dichotomous system that can be interpreted in a Hegelian fashion. Alternatively, his theories could be parsed through a deconstructionist filter

But in this particular case Nietsche explitly tell us that the beliefs on wich the caste system lays upon should be completely transvalued.
There is no sort of synthesis, he would simply refuse the point of view of the castist, and reexamine every aspect of society using reasonable statements.

I don't want to come off as patronizing, but I think that you need to seriousoy reread the books you've read by him. It's pretty clear that you're confused on his value system, what he meant for slave/master morality and how he thinks it should be approached.

>>9049983
your definition of slave and master morality is outright false

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>>9049983
>morality being determined by the ruling group who controls a culture
This is totally wrong. The master/slave dichotomy exists in all cultures and even within particular individuals. It's not a binary opposition where you can pick one culture that "has" the master morality. All moral scenarios are "a synthesis of master and slave morality" because they're not two separate systems, they're a co-mingled whole like yin and yang.

>>9049983

just shut up