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What are some good books on self-education? I want to become an autodidact, so I need to learn how to self teach me, and I want to do it well, I want to have a background so I don't commit errors in my self education.
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Here's a reading list of western cannon by St. John's College.
https://www.sjc.edu/academic-programs/undergraduate/seminar/annapolis-undergraduate-readings
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>>9049065
its a meme list and you probably wont read even a 10th of it, if you have to ask so simple mindedly
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>>9049160
Why it's a meme list?
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>be me
>yesterday
>post thread "post yfw you realized there was no such thing as free will" to b8 responses in favor of free will because the idea of not having free will terrifies me but i can't find a satisfactory argument against it
>no one argues
im scared, /lit/, but i guess i have no choice in the matter
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>>9047369
There is obviously no free will, you moron.
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Why does it matter? The fact that there is or there is not free will doesnt changes your experience of having free will.
Its like worrying what are you made of on a quantum level. It doesnt changr anything
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>>9047404
fuck i know
shit
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Did you know Voltaire was sometimes a charlatan? I can prove it. 2017-02-01 01:55:11 Post No.9047366
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Did you know Voltaire was sometimes a charlatan? I can prove it.
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He pretended to read books he HAD NOT read.
On his 'Essay on Epic Poetry' he pretends to have read Camoes in the original, which had not happened. He even pretended to translated the first lines of the poems, failed, and then completely invented a load of idiocy for the third stanza!
Voltaire's ''translation'':
>« Je chante ces hommes au-dessus du vulgaire, qui des rives
occidentales de la Lusitanie, portés sur des mers qui n'avaient point encore vu de
vaisseaux, allèrent étonner la Taprobane de leur audace; eux dont le courage patient à
souffrir des travaux au delà des forces humaines établit un nouvel empire sous un ciel
inconnu et sous d'autres étoiles. Qu'on ne vante plus les voyages du fameux Troyen qui
porta ses dieux en Italie; ni ceux du sage Grec qui revit Ithaque après vingt ans
d'absence; ni ceux d'Alexandre, cet impétueux conquérant. Disparaissez, drapeaux que
Trajan déployait sur les frontières de l'Inde voici un homme à qui Neptune a abandonné
son trident; voici des travaux qui surpassent tous les vôtres.
>« Et vous, nymphes du Tage, si jamais vous m'avez inspiré des sons doux et touchants,
si j'ai chanté les rives de votre aimable fleuve, donnez-moi aujourd'hui des accents fiers
et hardis; qu'ils aient la force et la clarté de votre cours; qu'ils soient purs comme vos
ondes, et que désormais le dieu des vers préfère vos eaux à celles de la fontaine sacrée. »
This is very different than the original, which is obviously unnaceptable for a prose translation! Here's the fourth stanza in the original. All people who know Portuguese/Spanish/Italian will see the differece immediately!
>E vós, Tágides minhas, pois criado
>Tendes em mim um novo engenho ardente,
>Se sempre em verso humilde celebrado
>Foi de mim vosso rio alegremente,
>Dai-me agora um som alto e sublimado,
>Um estilo grandíloquo e corrente,
>Porque de vossas águas, Febo ordene
>Que não tenham inveja às de Hipocrene.
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>>9047366
What about it? Dante never read Homer, and didn't even know Beatrice personally. He was a pseud and a cuck, but it doesn't diminish his poem.
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The original /lit/izen
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The real trick of a patrician is to say you haven't read something then when they start explaining the thing you start to talk over them and yell "oh I remember yeah!" and go on a detailed 30 minute tangent on the thing they wanted to talk about revealing all sorts of esoteric knowledge.
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I've read The Glass Bead Game, and i really liked it.
However, a lot of people say that all of his good ideas are in the book, and that im gonna get bored trying to read any of his other books.
Is this true? I dont have much time, so i'd rather not spend time reading something i dont like, but Siddartha and Steppenwolf seem incredibly interesting, and i really like his style of writing.
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>>9047350
so read them then. Siddhartha isn't that long to begin with anyway
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>>9047350
Glass Bead Game is the culmination and synthesis of all of his ideas. His other books will definitely pale in comparison.
However, Steppenwolf will offer certain elements that were absent in Glass Bead Game. The same can be said, to a lesser extent, of Siddhartha and Demian.
Narcissus and Goldmund explores, in my view, almost identical topics as Glass Bead Game; however, I think it's also the best written Hesse book after The Glass Bead Game. If you really liked it you should consider reading it as well, but don't expect anything revolutionary.
Journey to the East is, imo, wholly skippable after The Glass Bead Game.
If you like his style of writing there's no reason not to try one of his other books, especially since, as other anon pointed out, they're all pretty short other than N&G, so it's not like you're investing a lot of time.
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>>9047594
While I agree with much of what you said, pretty much all his books are worth reading just for the prose. Hesse's writing is just so beautiful, and so are his characters.
Narcissus and Goldmund is the best example of that IMO.
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ITT: Expand your vocab with stellar words that sound nice and feel good to say.
belustrade
trattoria
votive
parquetry
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>>9047326
>belustrade
Unless this is a non-English word, I think you meant "balustrade"...
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I like "bairn".
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>>9047326
verisimilitude
how do i come up with a unique plot for ya? it has all been done
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>>9047251
Don't. Just rehash some great piece of literature and set it somewhere else. What are you, some kind of amateur?
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Write a book about a frog who goes from happy, to sad, and then back to happy and smug
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>>9047251
>take a deck of cards
>write a stock YA character/trope/setting on each in black marker
>shuffle deck, draw 4-5 cards
>using your creativity, think of a plot that would link these components
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>Édouard Louis (born Eddy Bellegueule; October 30, 1992) is a French writer.
>[At the age of 22] he published En finir avec Eddy Bellegueule, an autobiographical novel. The book was the subject of extensive media attention and was hailed for its literary merit and compelling story. The book also gave rise to debate and controversy over the perception of the working class. It was a bestseller in France and has been translated to over 20 languages
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Fils de riche.
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>>9047177
>"Louis grew-up in a poor family supported by government welfare: his father was an unemployed factory worker and his mother found occasional work bathing the elderly. The poverty, racism and alcoholism which confronted him during his childhood would become the subject of his literary work"
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>>9047167
Fuck off racist
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>And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
What did he mean by this?
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>>9047142
Peter was being appointed as the first pope by Christ. This verse is basically the founding of the church.
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>>9047142
You'd think it would be pretty straightforward--but that would require you to think, which is apparently too much to ask of most of Central and Northern Europe.
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Christ is informing Peter, his disciple, that in the near future, he will need to rock. Further, Christ is wishing Peter, his disciple, good fortune in this endeavor.
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I just realized my boyfriend actually doesn't read at all. He has a whole shelf of books but has never read any of the books on them. Instead he'll browse this board for a few minutes and then watch a documentary on some philosopher like Kant. When I was reading Proust he commented something stupid about the end of the book saying "it's hard to understand" which means
A: He hasn't read the book at all
B: He doesn't read enough to comprehend simple sentences.
After a day of browsing here I realized almost everyone on this board does the same shit and nobody on here reads.
I'm going back to /ck/ now.
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>>9047129
>I'm going back to /ck/ now.
Post more food abortions.
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>After a day of browsing here I realized almost everyone on this board does the same shit and nobody on here reads
No you're just trying to make the fact that your boyfriend is a pleb less embarrasing.
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>>9047841
but its true
Has the work / leisure dichotomy been well and truly destroyed?
You can go home and relax by reading books... oh wait, now you enter a world of all sorts of hierarchies. "Oh you only read X books a day?" "You haven't read that book?" "You don't have the same interpretation of that book as the popular one?" "You didn't even bother having an interpretation?"
Similarly for everything else. You have a social life and every interaction is people judging you on the alpha-beta-gamma scale. And social media is online marketing
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I believe those are called "spooks", anon
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>>9047128
>tinder has finally exposed the fact that a minority of men get the huge majority of women
>tinder has exposed that women only want Chads
"Hurr, stop believing your eyes! This 18th century Czech short story published in a quarterly village journal is complete proof that women don't care about looks!"
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>>9047125
Wish I could say I don't know this feel, but I kind of do. It's pretty hard to resist the self-improvement / social competition elements in leisure activities, which make leisure feel like work.
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"Would you like some coffee?" Kjelburgistan asked as he poured a steaming hot cup of coffee. "Yes please" replied Ogligorff as he drank down the warm black bean produced liquid. After the coffee they looked out the window, coffee in their hands. The snow was falling down the mountains of south Britzlewitz. "My grandmother babooshafranz used to love coffee" he sighed. Of course that was before the great coffee strike of nineteen seventy coffee
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>5 star literature
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holy me-me i want me-me
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Kippers for breakfast, Aunt Helga? Is it St. Swithin's Day already?
'Tis replied Aunt Helga
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I'd love to get into mystery novels, but I'm not sure to start. Any recommended authors/books? I was thinking of going with Agatha Christie, but again, not sure where I'd start with her since she's done so much. I know Ten Little Niggers is pretty well liked but I think I know some spoilers for that one so I'd prefer to go with something else.
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>>9046972
Mystery novels are literally the lowest form of literature. Sub-genre fiction
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/pol/ at it again
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>>9046972
Read her romance
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Any Frenchbros here?
I recently moved to France and I'm supposed to pass my baccalauréat in French.
Any tips and or helpful websites on how to analyze and make a commentary on certain extracts?
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Hon hon hon, une baguette, sacrébleu!
Just bumping, interested too
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je ne sais pas
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>>9047791
Pourquoi tu ne sais pas? Tu parles en francais alors tu peut advicer OP; dit-nous, comment il faut prendre du action?
Et serait mieux que t'explique dans une bonne humeur, Anon!
>hang out with George Orwell
>walking in the streets
>give a dime to a homeless people
>tfw Orwell reports me as a commie to the secret police
For fuck's sake George.
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>>9046906
>hang out with George Orwell
>I'm from coal mining town with a lot of people on the dole
>show him my house and introduce him to my family
>tell him about being laid off, basic story about my life
>mfw he shits all over me in some book that I'm too illiterate to read
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>>9046906
>Implying Orwell was anti-communist
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>>9046906
one dime to a whole people? what's that gonna do?
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What are some good post apocalyptic books like pic related
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>Corncob Tortillas YeCarthy
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