can you imagine being on /lit/ during the Sokal affair? what

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Imagine all the good times.

Sokal's hoax is really lame.
Ya man, everything is shit, we know. He also forgets pomo values. Just an aggressively pointless exercise.

>>9231154

>positivism is useful for philosophy and literature

>>9231181
It's such an emperor-has-no-clothes moment, though. I feel like you can use it to invalidate all the postmodern schools of criticism.

>>9231208
It's not, though. If anything it makes Sokal look like someone who never understood in the first place.

>The hoax sparked a debate about the scholarly merit of humanistic commentary about the physical sciences

Can't be any worse than the scholarly merit of positivist commentary about the physical sciences.

>>9231154
None, it'd just result in a load of cross boarders coming in and shitting every thread up with claims of Cultural Marxism and Jews

>>9231208
No, it wasn't. He only got published in a small irrelevant journal. The editors knew his contribution was shit and were trying to get him to do major revisions to the text. They only published it because he was a big name from a different discipline and they were small journal looking for any publicity.

>>9231793
If you'd turn it around, it would be equivalent to a virtually unknown physics journal publishing Zizek writing on quantum mechanics, even though all the physics are wrong, because hey, it's fucking Zizek submitting to our journal.

>>9231154

Two similar hoax articles have been published recently in France, one about the car-sharing system in Paris (embodying the jump from modern episteme to postmodern episteme), another one about Alain Badiou, published in Badiou Studies. It's funny to read stuff about it and I enjoyer Sokal's book at the time. But honestly it's obvious that these people are only engaged in a war ; what is at stake is teachers' positions. No serious thinker cares about idiots, whereas small idiots attack bigger idiots to draw attention.

>>9233678
>one about the car-sharing system in Paris (embodying the jump from modern episteme to postmodern episteme)

This is true though

>>9231154
>can you imagine being on /lit/
>imagine being on /lit/
Wasting time in this shithole is bad enough. Dreaming about it is some next level autism.

>>9233703

We're all masochists here.

Why the fuck else would we keep returning here? Spending our limited youth in this endless and repetitious sea of shit?

You could be reading Proust right now.

>>9231154
Imagine if the internet and 4chan existed during Mishima's attempted coup and suicide.

>>9231793
Revealing how peer review will let sloppy bullshit pass because it's attached to a big name was entirely the point though.

>>9233764
The journal he submitted to did not practice peer review. That's how low he stooped to get his 15 minutes.

>>9234016
The point is that editors who are supposed to be well versed in their field looked at the article and decided that despite it's significant faults it was worthy of publication becuase it was attached to a big name.
They were willing to publish something they knew was of dubious quality if not completely false because it would get them press. They stooped just as low as he did.

>>9234016
Only stems should be allowed to write books that require effort from the reader.

>>9233764
Yes, but, as far as I know, he then went around yelling "postmodern anything is bullshit lelelelel!!" and not "the modern academic publishing process has serious flaws".

>>9234550
>They stooped just as low as he did.

Yes, but the editors were a bunch of nobodies with no influence. Sokal was a big name with a reputation to uphold. He should have tried to get published in a journal of his league but then his little hoax obviously wouldn't have worked.