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https://philpapers.org/archive/SHATVO-2.pdf
"A Troll’s Truism is a mildly ambiguous statement by which an exciting falsehood may trade on a trivial truth. A typical example of a Troll’s Truism is the statement that anything constructed could be
constructed differently. This particular truism I think of as being, for postmodernists, the
ur-truism from the ur-troll. On this postmodernists have built what they have taken to be a
radical critique of rationality. The exciting falsehoods that can trade here are the notions
that what we know, what the truth is, and how the world is, are constructed by us and so
arbitrary: the trivial truths merely that we construct our beliefs, we construct meaning and
act on the world on the basis of our beliefs. Prescinding from the question of truth bearers,
obviously, which statements are true depends on what the sentence used in an utterance
means, which in turn depends on how we have constructed meaning. As postmodernists
have proved, there is plenty of room for manipulating meaning tendentiously, but we are
not thereby manipulating the world. There also comes the point at which having constructed a meaning differently we have no longer constructed the same thing. Of
course, we can use the same word, but we are no longer speaking of the same thing.
When used thus to assert social constructivism the truism insinuates the notion that
there is no objectivity without ever arguing for it, yet permits a retreat to the trivial truth
whenever pressed by an opponent on the exciting falsehood. A beautiful example of this
is Stanley Fish’s defence to the exposure of postmodernist nonsense in the Sokal affair. In
his paper Sokal asserted explicitly a number of standard doctrines of postmodernism.
Social constructivism denies that there is “an external world, whose properties are
independent of any human being and indeed of humanity as a whole” (Sokal 1996). In the
book “The Sokal Hoax” Stanley Fish performs the retreat to the trivial truth as follows:
'What sociologists of science say is that of course the world is real and
independent of our observations but that accounts of the world are produced
by observers and are therefore relative to their capacities, education,
training, etc. It is not the world or its properties but the vocabularies in
whose terms we know them that are socially constructed – fashioned by
human beings – which is why our understanding of those properties is
continually changing. (Fish 1996)'"
is he, dare I say it, correct?
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>>9977824
>when a """philosopher""" refers to a fallacy
Instantly dropped
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>>9977829
it's funny because you're exactly the kind of retard he's talking about lol
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>>9977835
He can talk away my friend
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Half of this board is full of idiots. thr other half seem intelligent people who are poorly educated or whose education was funneled down extremely questionable paths
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>>9977723
Good job stating the bleeding obvious you fucking mong.
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>>9977726
wasnt sure if you wete all aware. there was a person trying to place pgilosophers reading amazon books on split brain experiments above neurology in another topic
unironically.
wasnt sure if you guys had any self awareness at all after seeing that
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>>9977723
>To define yourself is to limit yourself
RRREEEEEEEEEEE
Narcissism is truly the plague of our times.
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The fact that he died at fucking 46 is the most bullshit thing ever. It's not fair bros, there was so much more for him to do.
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>>9977722
Like what?
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>>9977729
Write good shit and resist the childish throttle of nihilism.
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That's what you get for being le edgy smoker man!
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3 types of revolutionaries 2017-09-04 07:10:31 Post No.9977639
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3 types of revolutionaries
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2017-09-04 07:10:31
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I remember reading a quote in a book but forgot the book. Does anyone remember where this quote is from?
"There are three types of revolutionaries: those who make new sayings, those who use traditional sayings, and those who use no sayings"
It was also in a Slavoj Zizek lecture IIRC
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>>9977639
Is using no sayings just a faggy way of say that someone is quiet
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>>9977640
More like they don't have any phrases they repeat.
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>>9977647
This also defines "those who make new sayings"
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is this a good edition of critique of pure reason?
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Hackett or Cambridge, though with Hackett you get the advantage that Pulhar doesn't think Kant is wrong about everything so it's potentially less loaded.
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>>9977635
see but my dad has this edition so i could just nab it from him if theres nothing wrong with it
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>>9977644
Everyman is top tier
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Is Twilight Worth Reading if I'm Into Vampire Fiction? 2017-09-04 06:36:15 Post No.9977555
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Is Twilight Worth Reading if I'm Into Vampire Fiction?
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I am something of a completionist, in this case, for notable works of vampire fiction. However, what did you think of the Twilight books? I have not read them, or seen the movies back when they were massively popular, because I was contrarian to the idea that I should do something because it was popular. Now that I've bumped into this, should I read it? Has the Twilight series contributed anything worth pointing out to the genre of Vampire fiction? Has it innovated it in any way? What did you think of the movies, in relation to the books? I am OK with some spoilers, to be honest, as long as it backs up your points.
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>>9977555
If you want recommendations for some good vampire books then just ask.
These books are awful and not even enjoyable in a so bad it's good way, just plain bad.
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>>9977573
Well, I have often seen them heavily criticized on places like IMDB, and Yahoo comments. I am wondering though, just how did it become so popular around ten years ago, and did it contribute anything worthwhile to vampire fiction as a whole? I meant to analyze it in a serious manner. I'm getting the impression that this is seen as low-brow entertainment for mostly younger girls and teens.
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The description that I've heard about Twilight (some of you may have heard this, too...) is that it's just "safe for work" erotic literature for young girls and young-at-heart women. The erotic part is what made it famous (and why 50 Shades was fanfic of it), even though unwitting observers like us think girls actually read it for its awful prose. No, it's for the description of perfectly sculpted hot guys.
Literally don't waste your time with it.
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Who are the /lit/-approved authors still alive and producing work worth reading outside of the memes?
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why can't you approve an author yourself you fucking lemming
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>>9977547
Maybe because I'm just looking for recommendations from somewhat-likeminded people, you fucking nigger. KYS yourself ASAP.
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>>9977580
>somewhat-likeminded people
You don't know anyone here
nobody does
stop living in a shit-fantasy
Does anyone else write a report/analysis after every book?
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>>9977331
No but I've often thought about doing so.
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>>9977331
No one does this you fucking autist.
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I think about how I would write an essay but I'm not autisticly inclined enough to do it.
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>He hasn't preordered Turtles All The Way Down by John Green, available October 10, 2017
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>>9977303
Green references Russel. The cucks flock together. Really makes you think.
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I'm gonna try to meet him on his book tour
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You actually get paid to market him here? I know that happens all the time on other boards but /lit/ seems like a waste of time.
Is "categorically imperative" an incorrect use of the concept??
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>>9977283
my dairy desu
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>>9977283
Why would you say it like that? Just drop the '-ly' already.
It will only work if you stucture it differently. For example: "imperatives, (. . .) that command categorically."
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>>9977951
>It is categorically imperative to always tell the truth
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hi lit, i have a fucking philosophy degree. All i've read is philosophy and some fiction books and that's it.
so i want you to give me reccomendations
i don't want
1 - existential shit like Dosto, Camus, Salinger, Hesse... i read a lot of these ones and i don't like them very much. If u think of an existentialist book that diverges from the point of view of these ones, then yes, tell me.
2 - really ancient literature. Like i sad, i've studied philosophy and i'm tired of these
3 - stupid shit like Murakami, Garcia Marquez, etc...
thanks lit
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>>9977218
nobody cares what you want faggot
>>>/r/books
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>>9977218
First: read Shakespeare you cuck. He's the greatest writer in the language. At first you'll be like "hur dur I don't really know what's going on, poetry is whack, what's the point of these stories" but if you have anything inside you that isn't utterly plebeian, you'll come around to seeing him as the demigod he is. What Plato is to philosophy, Shakespeare is to English literature.
Second: are you more interested in fiction or poetry? If the former, short stories, novellas, novels?
For short stories, Borges is a lot of fun, especially for a student of philosophy. His stories feature tons of metaphysical conceits and and poetically-rendered paradoxes and stuff like that. Also, Joyce's Dubliners is basically mandatory reading if you want to get into literature.
For poetry, check out Shakespeare (sonnets), Donne, Wordsworth, Yeats, Eliot, and Stevens. They are all in their own ways philosophically-minded, and arguably the greatest poets in the language.
For novels, there is almost too much to bother reducing it down to a shortlist, but the memed classics are memed classics for a reason. Joyce, Faulkner, Nabokov, and McCarthy are all amazing. They're a little more difficult than some other stuff you might want to start with for getting into novels, like Austen, Dickens, Steinbeck, etc., but not quite as huge a commitment and intellectual slog (minus Ulysses of course) as guys like Melville, Proust and Pynchon.
If you don't like this list, be more specific about the stuff that intrigues you.
Also, what's wrong with Garcia Marquez?
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>>9977274
i love this list. Borges is one of my favourites.
lit has made me think sometimes that reading the memed classics is a waste of time because of being so memed, so maybe i'll change my opinion watching this...
I don't like Garcia Marquez's One Hundred Years of Solitude, i don't like that kind of fantasy approach (it doesn't mean that i don't like fantasy, it's just this book) and i was really boring, i couldn't get anything meaningful of it.
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Suggest me a piece of literature to speed read in the next three hours, /lit/.
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>>9977152
In Search of Lost Time
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aram saroyan - lighght
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>>9977152
The Old Man and the Sea. It's a novella.
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What's up my fellow hepcats!?
This looks to be one of the hottest up and coming YA books and I see them making it into a movie soon no problem. It's getting really good reviews right now! 4 1/2 on Amazon!
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Witch-Chronicles/dp/0373212313
Unfortunately it is under assault. It really needs help and needs cats that like the book to support it. It's taken a lot of hits from the YA twitter crowd but still managed to be successful.
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>>9977109
Shilling trash is against the board rules
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lmao what's going on with the ratings?
Did you write this yourself using a pseudonym?
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>>9977148
Who the FUCK are you?
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What's your favorite light reading? I need something to read before bed but nothing I want to be too focused on as to keep me awake.
inb4 someone ironically says Ulysses.
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Short story collections. I read scifi collections in college, they're usually light and entertaining and have some sort of hook to make them interesting. You could try PKD's collected stories if you want something a little less cheesy (he wrote a shitload of them it's four volumes). Ballard's really early stuff is fun too.
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Anything by Rohld Dahl is /comfy/ af and your brain hardly has to think just let him take you on a little adventure with quirky characters.
Sort of a kids story usually but they can be dark and I think they hold up well for light adult reading.
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steinbeck
hemingway
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>他不知道另一种语言!
lol
Why are you restricting your self to one language
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I am learning german and japanese someone help me please ;-;
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Can anyone who's studied/learned ancient Greek, either in a structured setting or independently, vouch for this text's quality? It's either this or I start Wheelock's.
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正确的句子应该是“他不会用另一种语言”。
不知道means he doesnt know if another language exists.
会用 is "can use"