The Queen in Richard ii has some of the most incredible and illuminating lines in all of Shakespeare - is there a more overlooked character?
>'Tis nothing less: conceit is still derived
From some forefather grief; mine is not so,
For nothing had begot my something grief;
Or something hath the nothing that I grieve:
'Tis in reversion that I do possess;
But what it is, that is not yet known; what
I cannot name; 'tis nameless woe, I wot.
Also thoughts on this play in general? The ideas of inheritance and land are really compelling at make it one his most unique works imho
one of his best and most overlooked plays
I forgot to greentext it all but you get the drift
>>9980728
Definitely
Expanding on what I said above - the idea of ownership and land being somehow a measure of the self in feudalist England has some interesting parallels with Consumerism today. Richard has a real fear that Bolingbroke's taking of his land means he is lesser as an individual, as in the famous speech
>Our lands, our lives and all are Bolingbroke's, and nothing can we call our own but death, and that small model of the barren earth that saves as paste and cover to our bones
Also there's that idea in there of the literal ground a person inhabits, in death as a grave, being all of their value - which plays into Richard's machinations, the taking of Gaunt's property and the idea of inheritance in a rather literal way. I'm rambling and it's late so sorry if this is all bollocks. Also the quote is from memory and though I think it's correct the punctuation is way off
Hear out my business plan for a moment, it's a bit far fetched but it seems doable.
1. Learn Latin and Old Greek
2. Move to a big European city (Vienna for example)
3. Give OG and Latin classes to upper middle class and beyond
Doesn't seem that illusory for me after the hardest step is done. I figure it will take me ~4 years to achieve fluency.
>>9980496
It's not far fetched to become a teacher of Latin or Ancient Greek, but why are you planning on doing this when you don't even know the languages yourself? Also:
>fluency
That's not how learning dead languages work.
>>9980520
Yeah yeah, and as to why - I never read the ancient lit so that could be useful in itself but I'd mainly to it for sustenance in the future. As for "why do it if I don't know the languages", well, how else am I going to do it if I don't learn them first?
>>9980567
You were supposed to learn them while you were still in school. I don't think it'd be very easy to become a Latin professor without at a minimum taking the Latin courses in high school and university.
why doesn't anyone talk about this book? It's better than most of dosto's other memes tbqh
Because it's shit
>>9980412
It's the only work of his that I've dropped. Everything else I've read was good to great.
>>9981378
Why didn't you like it?
Are there any good books about dinosaurs at all?
>>9980309
Doyle's Lost World is pretty nice
>>9980328
i'll check it out. ty
>>9980309
The Bible
my diary desu
It's /lit/.
/b/ with some loose focus on books and politics
Will you write me a bed time story? I can't sleep.
Once upon a suicidal thought....
one day (you) too shall feel true love!
There was a donkey addicted to cheese...
Are there any books about the rat race of modern society? It seems the only jobs I'm qualified to do are fast food or supermarkets which must get hundreds of applicants all who are preferable to me. And that's if you pass the psychological mind games of their online tests.
It's one of those topics that is not allowed to be broached.
I worked in a retailcuck job after university and it was humiliating. Now I work in an office and do nothing at work yet get paid more and respected more and so on.
But when publishing is run by homogenous rich whites (now jews) and only publishes the same literary fiction shit by the same types, you're not going to learn about a large slice of "the human condition"
>>9980095
>corporate jobs are super simple and mostly down time yet pay way more than jobs that actually require work
this is how startups can succeed against entrenched players, those companies get loaded to the gils with useless paper pushers and diversity hires, and suddenly a crew of tech homies come outta no where and fuck their shit up, god bless capitalism
>>9980095
More than anything we need a modern Upton Sinclair, Jack London type of writer who would write a real slice of life from the perspective of working people - I worked in an auto shop for a year to afford school, and it's like a whole different planet from where Jonathan Franzen or whatever flavor-of-the-month award winner lives.
>>9980131
>god bless capitalism
Wash your mouth out.
brand new chart thread
ITT:
post LIT related charts, guides etc.
I'll dump the ones I got
but these charts are always /mu/ tier trash no doubt compiled and created by juvenile dilettantes???
>>9979965
DUUUUDE
LIKE
CORPORATE JOBS
ARE FOR NARCISSISTS AND SHIT
BROOO ALL THAT MONEY AT YOUR PRESTIGIOUS JOOOB!!!
MATERIALISM
BRAND NAMES!!!
FUCKIN MICHELIN STARS
WHAT IS IT ALL FOOOOOOOR IF YOU LOSE YOUR SOUL MAAAAN? DID YOU EVER REALLY THIIIIINK?
DUDE I'M GONNA CHARACTERIZE SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE WITH PRESTIGIOUS CAREERS AS LITERAL MURDERERS OF THE HOMELESS AS OPPOSED TO ME BEING A SLOB TRYING TO WRITE THE NEXT GREAT AMERICAN NOVEL AND FAILING BECAUSE I HAVE NO TALENT WHATSOEVER AND SERIALLY SLEEP ON MY FRIENDS' COUCHES
DUUUUDE I HAVE THE MORAL HIGH GROUND OVER YOU CORPORATE SHEEP!!!!! I'M FUCKIN GOOD WILL HUNTING AND YOU'RE THE WASP DOUCHER IN THE BAR MAN, I'M BETTER THAN YOU CAPITALIST SLAVES
>>9979912
t. DFW fanboy who didn't understand the book
pretty stupid thread desu
DUDE KILLING HOMELESS PEOPLE OUTSIDE BARNEYS ON HALCION
----BUT DID IT HAPPEN??!?! OOOOOOOH SOO FUCKING DEEEP
I know I'm slow-poking on this but since fucking when was Harry Potter based in the nineties?
http://io9.gizmodo.com/harry-potters-kid-is-enrolling-in-hogwarts-today-1798705800
>>9979783
Since always you dingus. How did you not figure this out? I don't even like HP and I know this.
>>9979783
Always. In Chamber of Secrets we get to see Nearly Headless Nick's 500th deathday party, and it says he died 1492. Since then all the dates are consistent.
Harry's born in 1980, Voldemort's born in 1926, and Dumbledore's born in 1881. The dude is 99 years older than Harry.
Minus the opening chapter of Philosopher's Stone, which takes place in 1981 after Voldemort 'dies' the first time, the whole series takes place from 1991 to 1998.
What were you imagining, OP?
3 days ago, Friday September 1 2017, was "19 years later" , the final scene in the Harry Potter series
I'm pretty much tired of nihilism. I want more brutal, gut-punching than Moustache Man and Le French Existons. Is there a more "dark" philosophy than nihilism? What would be the essential reads for some really dark stuff?
>>9979778
Cioran
>>9979778
>nihilism
Holy shit you're such a retard.
>>9979789
>baiting the bait this obviously
Just made this image, what do you guys think? Is it a fair comparison?
>translations
>>9979382
τοῦτο.
Arguing about Ancient Greek translations is like arguing about which turd one should eat.
Looks good. Well-designed and you chose the right translations to compare.
What are some good campus novels? I graduated last year and now I kinda miss that academic life.
Obligatory
>>9979005
Watch Kicking and Screaming
Also,
Stoner
The Way of All Flesh
Of Human Bondage
Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
>>9979005
So you've got somethin' to look at while you're talkin' to 'em.
Money Grub Edition.
>List books where authors wrote unneeded filler.
>Which author iyho is the King/Queen of filler?
>Last book/series you dropped because it was unashamedly cash grub filler.
>/SFFG/ Recommendations:
FANTASY
Selected:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21329.jpg
General:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21328.jpg
Flowchart:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21327.jpg
SCIENCE FICTION
Selected:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21326.jpg
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21331.jpg
General:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21332.jpg
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21330.jpg
NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21333.jpg
Previous threads:
>>9968423
>>9962728
>>9958946
>>9951215
>>9946439
>>9939025
first for me
>>9978338
Yesterday was a slow day i guess
>>9978338
>>List books where authors wrote unneeded filler.
>>Which author iyho is the King/Queen of filler?
>>Last book/series you dropped because it was unashamedly cash grub filler.
Pic related.
>be occultist
>read Jung
>have experienced magical phenomena many times
>have experienced spiritual "truths"
>have a great understanding of his theory
>come to /lit/
>"hurr magic isnt real this guy is an idiot, daddy Freud is best!!!!"
The funniest thing about lit is how smart everyone thinks they are yet they'll deny the existence and validity of things many people have already been experiencing as truths for centuries. Out of pure ignorance albeit, it is quite something.
>>9978125
>not reading Reich
didn't /pol/ tell you we're marxists? all science is magic if you're doing it right
pardon, what's "magical phenomena"?
>>9978125
>go on a walk with my mother and brother
>walk home
>can see into the living room from the road
>light is on, mom's boyfriend is home, playing the piano
>aww yeah, live music!
>turn to mom
>[NAME] is home! He's playing the piano!
>run ahead
>knock
>no answer
>??
>ring the doorbell
>no answer
>??
>use my keys to unlock the door
>all the lights are off
>??
>no music
>??
>run into the living room
>piano is closed, covered in loose papers and books
>[NAME] doesn't come home for another 3 hours
does that count as magical phenomena?