I just picked up this beauty today! I'm excited!
Sadly it didn't seem to have the tri-rail despite being a 590a1 tactical which should but whatever, I'm sure I can get one later. I do have the clip for the front sling mount, it's just not on right now.
>Mossberg
>pistol grip
I'm sorry
>>28706415
Now replace the stock with a MOE stock and MOE grip, and get yourself a insight handguard and a bayonet.
>ultimate in home defense
>>28706429
pistol grip mossbergs are fuckin sweet
ITT:
Best weapon(s) for home defence in a country with strict gun laws like germany
pic rel
>>28706311
Get a permit and buy a set of these to kill yourself.
A plane ticket to the good ol' US of A
I think maybe my country has more liberal gun laws than your state, and I seriously want to find this out.
first off:
no law against high cap mags, regardless of weapon and calibre.
kinda good selection of semi auto's, which I'll get to in a minute.
pretty easy getting a hunting licence (ca 500$, one to two week course with a exam which you can fail once and take again a week or two later at no extra cost)
now...
approved hunting rifles, semi auto:
1. Winchester M/100,
2. Browning BAR (except Browning BAR M/1918),
3. Remington Model four,
4. Remington model 7400,
5. Remington 742 Woodmaster,
6. Ruger mini 14,
7. Ruger mini 30,
8. Heckler & Koch model 2000,
9. Marlin model 45,
10. Marlin model 9 camp carabine,
11. Valmet Petra,
12. Valmet Hunter,
13. Voere model 2185,
14. Vepr Super,
15. Vepr Pioneer,
16. Vepr Hunter,
17. Benelli Argo,
18. Sauer mod 303,
19. Carl Gustav 2000 light/Carl Gustav 2000 Classic
20. Merkel SR 1,
21. Remington 750,
22. Heckler & Koch model 770.
Once you have your hunting licence, it takes a lot for the law to come take them from you.
violent criminals and severe mental problems is the level you must get to, proving you are an imminent treat to yourself and others.
1/2
>>28705938
2/2
If you are a active competition shooter (bit harder, you have to be long term member of a club and said club has to offer regular practice in appropriate calibre), you can have:
1. Colt AR-15 H-bar/Sporter post 1986,
2. SIG SG 550 SP,
3. Steyr AUG civilian model,
4. Valmet M76/78A2,
5. Galil AR,
6. HK-94,
7. Bushmaster mod. XM15,
8. Olympic Arms AR-15 H-bar,
9. Heckler & Koch model SL 8,
10. DPMS Panther Bull 24/DPMS Panther Bull 24 Spesial (inkl. «Southpaw» mod),
11. Oberland Arms (OA) 15,
12. Izhmash Saiga sport 520,
13. Izhmash Saiga sport 555,
14. Tiger mod 03,
15. DPMS Panther mod LR-308 (inkl «Southpaw» mod),
16. Armalite AR 10,
17. Armalite AR 10T,
18. Arsenal SAR-M1,
19. Heckler & Koch MR 223,
20. Heckler & Koch MR 308,
21. JP Enterprise CTR-02,
22. Armalite M 15,
23. STAG 15,
24. Smith & Wesson M&P-15,
25. Benelli MR 1,
26. JP Enterprises LRP-07.
There is a law against .50 calibre weapons, both rifle and handgun, and handguns can only be acquired after 6 months membership in a gun club, and must offer practice in desired calibre.
Both with the competition rifles and the handguns, you must be active member, or the police can decree you must either sell them or render them useless.
So, how do we compare to the state of California?
The fact that you have required lisencing and active member ship in a "club" already makes you worse. Sure you can have higher capacity magazines, but so do a lot of people in CA. They just don't tell the government.
Also there is no pre approved list of rifles. Only a ban on generic traits of "assault rifles" that people have mostly figured out how to get around.
We are also allowed to have handguns. Not a lot because they made a list that arbitrarily deemed some handguns "more dangerous" for fuck all reasons. But you can still get them and without too much hassle compared to most European countries.
Tie in the fact that the 80% lower craze is pretty strong in CA and you'll find that you can enjoy guns fairly well here. But you walk the thin line of being ass raped by the CA DOJ anytime a new salt weapons ban passes our state legislature.
>TLDR; we are still better than Europe with gun laws.
>>28706057
yeah, see if you have to break the law in order to Trump our laws...
You are not as hot.
I can have a 110 cap mag without the cops doing anything.
As for the handgun/home defence thing:
A 16 inch barrel Mossberg 590a1 is considered a hunting shotgun.
Open carry/CC on the other hand is hard as fuck.
Would you reccomend it? I'm 22, not a retard, and have an associates degree and a very low level state government job making 10 dollars an hour. I think I'd want to do 4 years then go back to school.
Step 1: learn to spell check
Step 2: >>>/meg/
>>28705505
It's a good place to be. It's pretty lax and an easy living for the most part. Navy would be a close #2.
I did my four years, saved up 40 grand. That opened some doors that were otherwise shut without a 4 year degree. Now I'm doing what I love and own my own business.
>>28705505
Ask me your questions.
https://www.full30.com/video/2433e21e96a5be6f3b1633ba509c5e59
this reddit retard stil doing this test
why?
>>28705252
Holy shit, are you slavboos still asshurt?
>>28705332
>kart is stupid
>he doing stupid test
>OMG, the slavboo, they ruin everything
>>28705351
Good to hear that you are. This thread will now be hijacked by bill "getting smitten with Clinton", the king of loli molesting.
Does using a weapon agains an unarmed assailant make me more of a pussy than taking the beating, (if the assailant is taller and stronger than me)?
Had a bad road rage experience yesterday and got punched, just curious as to what you would do in the situation
>>28705150
Would draw and give them a chance to back off before removing rage
Don't get into road rage situations.
Who cares if it makes you look like a pussy? Plenty of people have died after taking a punch and falling wrong. I'm not going to stand around and take a beating to look macho.
For road rage, I'd stay in my car and try to drive away if possible. If that wasn't possible, I'd still try to stay in my car, or get back in it if I had exited (for example, if I didn't expect an attack and was trying to exchange insurance information). Firearm as a last resort.
Does the meme literally just extend from the fact that its a decent shooting rifle that is next to impossible to find ammo for?
Also K31/swiss bread.
>>28705012
>calling any guns a meme
opinions swiftly discarded
>>28705012
meme meme meme meme
>memeist extremist
kindly fuck of plz
>>28705012
7.5 Swiss isnt hard to find Jesus Christ.
>>28705037
>>28705211
This
Perhaps a campaign to get pepper spray legal across all of the EU would be more succesful than trying individually?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/638369/Girl-fights-back-man-who-sexually-assaulted-her-in-Denmark-street-faces-jail
>>28704466
Did he lose the ability to speak English after she sprayed him then?
>>28704466
Good, the dumb bitch should know that shit fucking burns.
Belgian here.
Pepper spray, stun guns, tasers, telescopic batons, etc are all illegal.
CCW permits are only issued to people with a lot of political pull, such as politicians, judges, etc.
(and security guards etc, but only for use while on duty)
I'm allowed to shoot intruders into my house which mean me (or someone else) serious bodily harm. But I'd have to get my guns out of my safe & load it (since has to be stored unloaded), as a result, it's rather unlikely that I'd get to my guns in time.
Are you guys ready for the next generation of self defense? Gonna regret spending all that money now that http://oncamera.co is stopping all crime
>>28703840
>http://oncamera.co
Wanna provide a proper link?
>>28703868
Shit they can't even set up a website properly, https://www.oncamera.co/video
Wow... Video 911 calls... So now the 911 operator can watch the victim get robbed/raped/murdered and not just have to settle for audio only.
Or the 911 operator can now see the face of the McDonald's employee who ran out of chicken nuggets. http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/03/04/florida-woman-calls-11-after-mcdonald-runs-out-mcnuggets.html
ITT:Military pet peeves about civilians
>Asking me about the army when my branch tape says "US Air Force" "US Navy" or "US Marines"
>Not knowing the difference between officer and enlisted. "Oh, my nephew joined out of high school! Why did you go to college first?"
>How many people have you killed?
>"Was 9/11 and inside job?"
>"Is Obama really going to take all of our guns away?"
>"Dude, I totally thought of joining once!" Right, so that makes us best buds.
>Do they brainwash you?
>Asking me if I know their family member/friend who is stationed on the other side of the country in a different branch of the armed forces.
>Talking about how if THEY joined the military, they would TOTALLY become a SpecOps/SEAL/Recon/Special forces ninja
>Trying to one-up me with stories of their friend/relative who is apparently way more badass than me
>lol Chair Force/Gayvy
"Is it like Call of Duty/Black Hawk Down/American Sniper/Lone Survivor?!?"
>>28703762
ITT: welfare warriors trying to shit one people who didn't want to be welfare warriors.
>>28703786
Sorry you get rejected at MEPS
What is the idea behind the UKs Trident submarines?
If only one sub is at sea at any one time surely that is not enough to deter an attacker? Russia or China could absorb the payload from one sub right?
They only have like 220 nukes total too.
Each sub currently carries 8 missiles with a maximum of 40 warheads. Each warhead is approx 5x as powerful as the bomb dropped on Nagasaki. So maybe they could take the payload but would have to be willing to say goodbye to quite a few of their cities.
>>28703243
>implying Russian AA systems wouldn't get a nice portion of the missiles
>>28703504
>implying that Russians have any AA capable of stopping SLBMs
Not even their precious S-400 can do that.
CZfags on suicide watch
https://www.full30.com/video/2433e21e96a5be6f3b1633ba509c5e59
>>28702909
>MuLtIpLe SoRcEs AnD TeStS.
Idiots on suicide watch.
>>28702909
>skip to 3:23
>I actually prefer it to the ak from a firers perspective, handling perspective, more accurate.
He's still an ARfag at heart too.
>>28702936
>assblasted CZfag detected
I bet you were one of the retards spewing their videos earlier, ultimatekek
What melee weapon would you choose to fight a samurai?
i am unbeatable when i use the sledge hammer in bushido blade
>>28702458
Broadsword, so I could watch his sword shatter when it hits mine.
>>28702458
Easy, a spear. If I can keep that fucker away from me, I'll be fine.
Should we be scared or not ?
and why ?
They are improving so much, are the equipment shit as their toys or no ?
Scared? No
China is generally defensive minded, the only time you'll be scared if America does something stupid and goes on the offensive while pinning it on China, then that's when you should be scared. As of now, there's a chance of America doing something like Ukraine, Syria or Iraq in the South China Sea so that's a hot point.
No because we're never gonna be at war directly only proxy war for large developed nations
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/27/us/malheur-refuge-what-happened-what-happens-next/index.html
>>28702206
>>28702206
There are still militia members in the sanctuary.
They've been given till 4 am to clear out.
https://youtu.be/pXbuP19AWDM
>>28702206
This Island looks so comfy, I want to live on it by myself.