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Why should I love/hate this guy?

This is all I know, doesn't seem to be overly for or against the guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ZJAS_ZzKU
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>the true story of ______

not worth it, better read books about him OP
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>>63284
he was like, a hard rebel, yet kind of one of those starry eyed hippies

at the same time

hes weird
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his legacy is encapsulated in his image being one of the most iconic and commercialized symbols in the United States liberal college crowd

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>invading Russia was a mistake

Please stop with this meme.
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>>63260
two great powers tried twice over
the second time the starting line was closer to the goal

why is this not a mistake
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>>63290
"A little over two weeks in, some 300,000 Russians had been captured. But then, in a fatal miscalculation, Hitler paused to divert forces from Army Group Centre to the south towards Kiev. The delay proved disastrous, stalling the attack on Moscow and forcing the ill-equipped German troops to fight in one of the worst Russian winters ever recorded."

Without that stupid mistake, and without the whole attack being delayed by 5 weeks because Germany had to invade Greece after Italy wasn't able to do the job, Germany would have taken Moscow within a couple of weeks.
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>>63422
And then what? Moscow had nothing, it was of no significance to the Russian government. It was pretty much destroyed with all vital shit for the gov. and the war taken out, right? The whole idea of taking the capital and winning the war could not apply to WW2, and moreover a country that large.

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Was Maoism necessary to modernize China like some Marxist historians claim?
Could it have been done by the Kuomintang? At least it did that to Taiwan and far less deadly and perhaps more effectively than the communist party did.
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>>63219
the kuomintang did their fair share of killing in Taiwan. It's development is mostly due to Sun yat-Sen, not Chiang Kai-Shek
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>>63219
Yes

Russia as well

>vast majority peasants
>becomes super power Cuz industrialiation after collectivising shit and trading resources for capital
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>>63411
Sun Yat Sen never set foot in Taiwan, considering that it was a Japanese colony from 1895 to 1945. Unless you are implying that Japan did most of the modernizing that occurred in Taiwan. I guess there's some truth to that.

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>executes all the intellectuals, teachers and scientists
>forces everyone to work in farms
>people agree and this goes on for a good 4 years

Why was /pol/ pot so based?
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JUST
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>>63109
Why are people suddenly shitposting so much about this guy? This board is less than 2 days old and I've already seen more Pol Pot discussion than in 8 years of 4chan.
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/pol/ pot was a mistake

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Looked around /his/, but didn't find a thrad like this yet.

ITT post your favourite historical marching songs, chants, songs inspired by historical events etc. You can go ahead and post a picture to go with a song or whatever.
The only rule I'd like to give with this thread is that, do not post music pieces with no historical background whatsoever,

Let's start with classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0d4qM7gCH8

>inb4 whole thread filled with Sabaton
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5hjByZuUNs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agVaFXih8Vk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9Ic9AISuTM

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Being a not-/his/ guy, I'd like to discover some of the jobs related to that.

Tell me people, what is your job?
Do you like it?

Would you change it for another one?

What would you change in it?

For students, what do you wish to do later?

Come on people, I want to see Teachers, Archaelogist, Historian, Museum people!
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I work at gas stations
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>>62914

I got great career possibilities in fast food industry.
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>>62914
I study history, and secretly fantasies about getting into elitist schools to get to be a diplomat.

I work part-time in a museum (no responsability, just visitor orientation).

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Let's talk about Uruk, one of the first cities in history. What do you think life was like in the first city ever?
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Shit
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>>63128

literally this.

>no electricity
>limited form of law and equality
>you were born and bred for the sole purpose of building monuments and fighting wars for the king
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the smell was probably appalling

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Brutus did nothing wrong.
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If Brutus did nothing wrong why did Dante Alighieri place him in the lowest sphere of Hell among with Judas and Lucifer in the Divine Comedy?
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>>62818
No one likes traitors
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>>62818
Date was a fag who didn't understand republican values.

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No Stormfag here, but think for a moment, If Germany had continued as the Weimar Republic with no real military strength and a weak economy, what would have happened once Stalin had fully industrialized his country? Once the Soviet war machine got going with no German army to inflict such huge losses upon it what would Europe do with the rise of the USSR? We already know the USSR was expansionist as fuck, they would surely conquer Eastern Europe while in the meantime Japan continued to dominate Asia. With no WW2 in motion, would the West be the first to develop the nuke or would the militaristic nations develop it first?
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>>62657
>worse
History doesn't deal in value judgements, it deals in the past as it was.
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>>62798
There are entire books debating the historical 'what ifs', for example, if Hitler hadn't made poor military decisions such as attacking the USSR, and how the outcomes may have been different. My questions are a lot more far fetched but I don't see an issue with discussing them.
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>>62657
A history without Hitler is a history were Germany doesn't need to have burned all their bridges with Britain, France, and America.

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This thread is dedicated to the long history of Fyrom
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Sculpture of Alexander the Great from the 4th century. Not pictured, another sculpture of Phillip, which, when finished, will be from the 2nd century.
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>Bulgarian butthurt commencing
It's like a deja vu, we'll done retards
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>>62532
go back to /int/ and /balk/ with that shitposting, stop shitting on this board too

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Was it?
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>>62429
Probably 9/11. 3000 people died and then half the planet got dragged into 2 completely pointless wars that fucked up most of the middle east as a direct and indirect consequence.
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>>62756

>3000 deaths anyway comparable to Fall of USSR
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how is giving the people freedom and liberty a tragedy

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What was going through his head just before Oswald's bullet?
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>Can't wait till tommorow when I'm going to shutdown FED.Those bankers are going to be pissed
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>>62404
"Heh, It kinda looks like there is a guy on that grassy knoll."
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He was at a publicity parade. Probably busy waving and putting on a good appearance for the crowd.

So who can produce primary sources showing that the holocaust really happened?
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>>62387
How about those PEOPLE WHO SURVIVED THE DEATH CAMPS AND ARE STILL ALIVE?
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>>62387

>Nazis dressing as jews to avoid face what they have done
Typical Nazi cowardice.
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>>62415
None of those people have ever documented anything other than Jewish casualties in WW2. People dying during a war, that's surely water-tight proof of genocide.

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I'm surprised I haven't seen a thread on this yet.
Who was the most influential person in all of history? Michael Hart thought it was Muhammad and I suspect he was right, but I'm open to other arguments.
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>>62352
How does one quantify influence?
Serious question.
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>>62352
It depends on how you define influential.

Socrates shaped Christian though, which shaped Islamic thought, which shaped Christian though and created the renaissance

Jesus can trace the vast majority of religious beliefs in the world directly to his preachings.


The first caveman to invent fire is indirectly responsible for all of human history.


So I ask you this OP:
Do we attribute later things that happened as a result of ideas created by one man, to that man?
And how far do we take that idea?
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Socrates
Ibn Alhazan

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Let's get some fun, interesting or otherwise notable stories from the past in here.

In 1953 on the 8th of July, two police officers on routine patrol saw a pickup in the middle of the road. Stopping the car, they pulled up to see what was up. The scene was nothing like they'd ever seen before. Three young men, Ed Watters (a barber, reportedly 28, although he looks younger in the photos), Tom Wilson (a fellow barber, 20), and Arnold 'Buddy' Payne (a butcher, 19) were standing at the side of the road looking confused and nervous. Laying in front of the car, was a small creature, about two foot in size. It looked like a space alien.
Mind you, this was 1953, about two years from the start of the space race. But sci-fi and space was already popular by this point, and aliens was an exciting prospect. Movies like The Flying Saucer by Howard Irving Young is what would today be viewed as a parody or at least a nostalgic throwback, but that was a current movie at the time and reflected mostly people's view of what they thought an alien would look like.

Aliens had been in the central focus of news at the time this happened, Just the night before there had been multiple reports of a large, multicolored, cone-shaped object flying overhead near Marietta, Georgia. But no one had ever seen a flesh-and-blood alien before.

The three men told the police an odd story, about how they were joking around in the truck, before coming over a hill and to their surprise see a flying saucer coming right at them, "glowing red all over".
Three small aliens were outside the craft and on the road, the driver slammed on the breaks but couldn't avoid hitting one of the aliens.

The other two aliens made it into their ship and flew off, and the three men were left dumbfounded with extraterrestial life on their bumper.

Ed Watters later told the press, "They all jumped for it. Two of them made it. I hit the other one. The red object turned blue and sailed away at a very fast speed."
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The officers were reasonably skeptic at first, but the evidence all added up, the long skid marks on the highway, the alien body itself lying dead in the road, a hairless, two-foot tall humanoid creature with eerie, round, dark eyes.

The officers reported it to their chief, who was just as skeptical to the tale as you would believe. He let the three men go home with the alien.

The media went ham on the story, they put the alien in the refrigerator and called it ”The atlanta constitution”.
A reporter asked them to bring the alien in, which they did, and had a veterinarian examine it. The local veterinarian said it did look like something ”out of this world”.
So the story went out on the news wire, announcing that a space alien had been captured.

Georgia county suddenly became the center of attention from pretty much all media, reporters went in droves to the small town and the papers were being printed left right and center.

At this point, it was too large to ignore, and authorities got involved. Dr. Herman Jones, the head of the Georgia crime lab, arrived on the scene, confiscated the creature, and took it to Emory University to be examined by two anatomy professors, Drs. Marlon Hines and W.A Mickle. The professors quickly determined it to be of terrestrial origin, a Capuchin monkey made to look alien by cutting off its tail and removing its fur with depilatory cream.

Dr. Hines commented that if the creature "came from Mars, they have monkeys on Mars.”
Dr. Mickle added, "If it's from outer space, they haven't invented anything new."

The three men confessed, and said that it was because of a bet. Ed Watters wagered his friends 10$ that he could get himself featured in the local paper in a week during a card game. Ed was fined 40$ and his friends got off scot free.
And that’s the story of three young men fooling America for ten dollars.
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>>62113
In the early fifth century, rampaging Goths swept through Italy. Inviolate for 1,100 years, Rome was sacked by the hordes in 410 AD. St Augustine's apologia, the City of God, set the tone for Christians for the next 16 centuries.

But the Rome of that era came close to suffering a far worse calamity. A small metallic asteroid descended from the sky, making a hypervelocity impact in an Apennine valley just 60 miles east of the city. This bus-sized lump of cosmic detritus vaporised as it hit the ground. In doing so, it released energy equivalent to around 200 kilotonnes of TNT: around 15 times the power of the atomic bomb that levelled Hiroshima in 1945.

The data indicate that the crater was formed in about 412 AD, with an uncertainty of 40 years in either direction. Additional sampling may allow this spread to be reduced, but it is clear that the event occurred close to the fall of Rome: some time between 370 AD and 450 AD, when the city was again under attack, this time by the Vandals.

Even considering simply the energy involved in forming the known crater, it is sobering to ponder what might have happened should the impact zone have been on the flat coastal plains nearer Rome, rather than in the mountains. Scaling from nuclear bomb tests indicates that a 200 kilotonne surface explosion would devastate an area of 100 square kilometres.
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Jabal Tariq (the source of the name Gibraltar) had 400,000 books in his library in mediaeval Spain (al Andalus)when the great monasteries of Europe could only account for scant dozens.

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