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Is Mark Twain just the American version of Voltaire?

Do other cultures have a similar figure?
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No
Mark Twain is better than Voltaire.
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I am pretty sure Augusut Strinderg counts as one.
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>>1361495
that just really goes to show how immensely shit Voltaire was

Doesn't anyone notice how the reason Rome fell was due to them allowing in millions of barbarian refugees and pandering to their needs, yet we do the same today?
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>>1361445
>Doesn't anyone notice how the reason Rome fell was due to them allowing in millions of barbarian refugees

That's like saying the Soviet Union fell because journalistic freedom.
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>>1361445
>>1361469
I think sandniggers and all the rest should fuck out of Europe as much as the next guy but this is a stupid argument

The Visigothic "refugees" were treated by shit like the Romans. They were pushed to the brink of starvation, and then they were forced to sell themselves or their children into slavery in exchange for food. Not really comparable to how Europe treats refugees today.
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>>1361469
Either out of ignorance or intellectual dishonesty you are outright ignoring all of the political instability, economic turmoil, internal discord & ruinous military adventures that lead up the point and reducing your conclusion to a single factor.

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Do you believe History is valid?
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History is a circle.
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>>1361399
it sure is
"My name is ASAC Hank Schrader and you can go fuck yourself"
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What Watterson fails to take into account is that there are always competing interpretations of history.

He might be right in regards to say... a public school textbook, where the agenda & message will change with the times, but all the primary sources remain unchanged.

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Whats the differnce between olympians and titans, are there different tiers of greek gods pr something?
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>>1361366
Sorry for bad english in addvance
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>>1361366

Less tiers and more generations. At least if you view something like the Theogony as a definitive view of Greek beliefs, then you have a notion that the original primal deities that created the universe are no longer in power and around, having been overthrown by their children, who were in turn overthrown by their children, and it's this third generation of deities who are in charge now. One of the big differences between Zeus and say, Cronos or Uranus is how he takes active steps to share power with the younger generation of Gods instead of relying on pure despotic force to prevent his own overthrow.

But the "Titans" were just an earlier generation of deities. Some of them still hang around in the Olympian pantheon.
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Uranus and Gaia wets the first gods. Their children were the Titans, who overthrew them. The children of the chief Titan, Cronus, then overthrew the Titans. They are the Olympians, who are currently in charge, and rule from Mount Olympus.

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Why did the Chinese youth want to destroy China's traditional culture during the Cultural Revolution?

Didn't they like the ethos of filial piety, obedience to authority, fraternity, male superiority, male philopatry and agnatic solidarity that is at the heart of Chinese culture?

I think all of that is very beautiful.
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>>1361353
Communism is a project to persecute any other faith and philosophy, so temple smashing was going to happen just as church demolitions happened in Russia.

Mao and his thugs were interested in Legalism:

http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/China/Mao%20on%20Shang%20Yang.htm
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People had to prove to others how much they loved Mao, otherwise they could be called reactionaries.
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Given that the cultural revolution was first and foremost an attempt by Mao to consolidate and shore up power, i don't think was any coordinated intention to destroy traditional culture like that. Rather, Mao encouraged and incited student movements to remove supposed bourgeois values that were still subverting the communist party, in any way they deemed fit. Traditional culture just happened to be collateral damage in Mao's play to retain ultimate control of the communist party.

If you're asking what were the student's individual motivations, your guess is as good as mine. Probably revolutionary fervor, a loss of faith in traditional culture (which given the way the Chinese were treated by the British and other Western forces, was understandable), and the feeling of emancipation from talking smack about your elders (which obviously they weren't allowed to previously).

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What exactly is materialistic about Marxism? I don't quite understand it.
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>Morality, religion, metaphysics, all the rest of ideology and their corresponding forms of consciousness, thus no longer retain the semblance of independence. They have no history, no development; but men, developing their material production and their material intercourse, alter, along with this their real existence, their thinking and the products of their thinking.
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>>1361309
Congratulations, you're stupid.

Don't worry your little head about this stuff and run off to somewhere else.
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>>1361334
I'm sorry, I just need help on the whole materialism vs idealism thing.

What would dialectical idealism be?

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Who did more to destroy the Great Library of Alexandria? The Romans or Christians?
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Fire
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>>1361247
The fire that the Romans started or the fire that the Christians started?
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>>1361262
The one time Christians burned the Library it no longer had any books.
Also the only time the library itself was purposefully burned was during a Muslim invasion.

Is Nick Land the greatest philosopher alive? It took me a while to grasp his philosophy but now I realize everything he's predicted is coming true.
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Yes.
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>>1361229
Nope
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>>1361511
Then who is?

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Redpill me on this man. Is he worth listening to? Why or why not?
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>>1361177
He looks like an evil wizard.
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>>1361181
kek

Don't you want wizard powers anon?
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Listen to his stuff about TV coming to his town. I think it's still on YouTube.

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What went wrong?
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>>1361164
EVERYTHING
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>>1361164
California is only one out of 50 states.
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>>1361164

Marginalist economics and general access to wealth.

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Who was Khidr?

This mysterious character has significant value in Islam. Unlike all saints, prophets and leaders mentioned in the Quran - he is the only one that is seemingly exclusive to Muslims.

As in you'll find all other characters in the Quran to be also present in the Bible and the Torah and other Judeo-Christian beliefs and documents. Except his man.

the tldr about this man as observed in the Quran:

Moses declares he is the wisest most knowing human on Earth after one of his sermons. God declares that that's not true and to seek out a wise man by taking a fish and roaming the Earth until the fish escapes him. Moses takes a young student of his and sets out to find this man. The fish escapes and Moses finds the man at the "junction/meeting of the seas"

Moses begs the man to take him along and teach him from his wisdom. The man famously and repeatedly tells him "you will not endure my ways"

What follows are three distinct stories that happened with Khidr and Moses:

1- Khidr punctures a ship
2- Khidr kills an innocent child
3- Khidr mends a stone wall in a town where the town folk were inhospitable and vile to them.

Moses confronts the man every time about his seemingly evil/useless deeds; the man then explains that he punctured the ship so that it would be deemed unworthy by a famously corrupt king would have seized it otherwise

He killed the child because he would grow up to be mischievous and evil. And God would replace him to his parents with a good son in his place.

He mended the wall because it belonged to sickly father whom would soon die and leave orphans behind. and that the wall would collapse unearthing a treasure underneath when the orphans are older.

Have these stories been mentioned before in any Judeo-Christian or even Greek mythology? or is this truly the only character / story line that is a new addition and exclusive to Islam?
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This story is what made me renounce Islam, barbaric af. Anybody has more info on this dude?
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it should be mentioned that Khidr is now and has been for quite sometime the poster child of Islamic mysticism. he is believed by many muslims to be timeless and immortal. he is said to eat like us but doesn't need to.

"Immortality" is exclusive to him and to Elijah in Muslim tradition. his wisdom and mystical nature also lead to him being adopted and heavily revered by many fringe sects in islam such as Sufis.
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>>1361056

He sounds a lot like Utnapishtim, sometimes called "the Sumerian Noah", who was the sole survivor of the antediluvian world who knew the ancient ways of worship and taught them to Gilgamesh, allowing him to re-found the "true" religion on his return to Uruk. Even the fish part is mirrored in the Sumerian, it's one of the methods of achieving immortality that Utnapishtim teaches Gilgamesh.

Did people think of him in the 19th century like we do of Hitler now?
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Only leftist morons think of Napoleon as a 'Hitler' like figure. The know nothing of the man and quickly lump him in with the 'tyrants' because he claimed himself emperor.
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>>1361088
>dem hitler dubs

People did think of him that way in the 19th century though

"Well, Prince, so Genoa and Lucca are now just family estates of the
Buonapartes. But I warn you, if you don't tell me that this means war,
if you still try to defend the infamies and horrors perpetrated by
that Antichrist- I really believe he is Antichrist- I will have
nothing more to do with you and you are no longer my friend, no longer
my 'faithful slave,' as you call yourself! But how do you do? I see
I have frightened you- sit down and tell me all the news."
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>>1361107

Just because he was an aggressive war monger. Compared to actual tyrants Napoleon isn't that bad at all. Napoleonic Code is considerable less drastic than the final solution and whatever the Mongols did.

He just wanted to unite Europe under one language [French] and it has practically happened anyway with English.

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Debate time.

Give arguments for and against religion.

Note: Here the issue of the existence of God will not be treated
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pls no

it would be all memes and edges
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>>1360734
Humans can't agree on what religion is right, the Universe is huge and people assume god would want anything to do with this planet. It's not really about religion though the real question is what happens after death, since we have limited time on this planet we want to do our best to get into a better life. Which is why people raised a certain religion won't ever question it because they want the best outcome after this life and questioning their belief is seen as bad because "have faith".
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Polytheism is the best type

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What went wrong, /his/?
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>>1360704

Austria is a small, mountainous shit-hole with little or no industry and a tiny population.
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>>1360704
They persecuted the Slovene minority and thus never received the help of their meme magic.
Seriously though from the accounts I read Austrofascism is one of the comfiest fascism, if we ignore their failed economic policies.

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Vampires.
What was the origin or the myth?
Did they represent something else in life that was plaguing the peasants?
Related, how do most persistent myths get started?
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They aren't a myth. They were real at one point, and would drain people of their blood.
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>>1360631
Sure thing, buddy.
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>>1360646
Don't give me that look. The story of vampires persist to this day.

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