Aside from Benedict Anderson's imagined communities, what is the best way to approach state formation?
From the side
>>1355345
Robert Carneiro - A Theory on the Origin of the State
Barbara Price - Secondary State Formation: An Explanatory Model
Post your favorite or interesting Greek mythology characters or stories.
I'll start:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissus_(mythology)
>In Greek mythology, Narcissus (/nɑːrˈsJsəs/; Greek: Νάρkισσος, Narkissos) was a hunter from Thespiae in Boeotia who was known for his beauty. He was the son of the river god Cephissus and nymph Liriope.[1] He was proud, in that he disdained those who loved him. Nemesis noticed this behavior and attracted Narcissus to a pool, where he saw his own reflection in the water and fell in love with it, not realizing it was merely an image. Unable to leave the beauty of his reflection, Narcissus lost his will to live. He stared at his reflection until he died. Narcissus is the origin of the term narcissism, a fixation with oneself and one's physical appearance
>>1355288
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanomachy
Epic in my opinion.
>>1355299
> A bunch of naked oddly shaped old people going at it
> Epic
>>1355337
>a giant orgy of gods fighting and killing each other
Yes. I do find it epic.
What does /his/ think of Diogenes?
I think he was a pretty smug fella.
>>1355233
I think his claim to live according to our nature ( masturbating and shitting in public) was hypocritical because living in cities is not our nature. If he had gone out in the woods to live as a wildman, I would respect that.
As it was he was just a smelly hipster douchebag who deserved to get his ass kicked.
le epin wisecracking hobo man
>>1355779
>civilisation is not human nature
Let's have a thread about the true successor to the Roman Empire.
Best Padishah? Best harem? Worst succession?
God that empire was so shit. But at least it led to a culinary exchnage that resulted in God-tier food.
i have no idea the ottomans were that deep into persia
Let's have a Greek Mythology thread.
I give lectures occasionally on it but my next one the coordinator made a handout for everyone without consulting and got a lot of things wrong or poorly made and there's some information I want to brush up on to prepare for the confusion everyone is likely to ask me about.
Basically how to explain the difference between Oceanus and Neptune/Poseidon.
The difference between Apollo and Helios/Sol as well as Selene/Luna and Artemis/Diana.
I'm going to be explaining this to Japanese people that have never heard of any of the Greek myths including Zeus. Usually it goes well and I keep the lecture simple and just the Olympians some heroes and stories but this coordinator I guess went to wikipedia and copy pasted every name that came up which I am worried will confuse everyone when they see all these names and lesser known gods when they don't even know Zeus and Hera.
>>1355146
So what's difference between Mars and Ares
>>1355146
>Gives lectures on Greek mythology.
>Can't even explain how two different deities are distinguished from each other.
...
Here's a recommendation for those infamiliar with it
What does /his/ think about Mutualism? Is a free market system possible without capitalism? It could be possible to put a mutualist economic system into practice?
bump
>>1354986
Can you give me some historical background on mutualism if you're gonna make a thread about it?
>>1355343
http://www.mutualist.org/id25.html
Hey guys first time posting, looked for a thread that this could go in and didn't really find anything.
I am hoping to get the best sources(sources can be books, documentaries, peer reviewed journal articles, etc.) you folks have found for
1. Ancient Greece
2. Celts
3. Scythians
4. Pazyryk's
5. Other beginning history peoples
Thanks and cheers mates!
I'll be the first to bite the bullet and just link you to the reddit resources which are very good
other anons will have additional stuff I'm sure
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/wiki/books
https://www.reddit.com/r/history/wiki/recommendedlist
>>1354822
thanks man, why is this not in the sticky?
>>1354840
don't know. Maybe to avoid shit flinging about which resource is more credible
Why didn't the Euro's try to take over Liberia during the Scramble for Africa? Was it protected under America? It clearly was (is) easy pickings
>>1354722
It was considered a nation though.
>>1354722
It would be like the Boer Wars but more publicized. Utter political suicide.
There was no reason to, really. It was an American colony in Africa for Free Blacks by Americans
Has history shown Hobbes to be right? Why or why not?
Sort of.
The Leviathan became not a monarch, but a state.
>>1354680
Yes and no. At least in the modern West his ideas did not persist, but the ideas of those he inspired did. Both Locke and Rousseau were unsatisfied with the conclusion Hobbes came to (any state is good, because even the most oppressive and borderline totalitarian king is better than having no state at all) and came up with solutions to the problem Leviathan posed.
I guess it was one of those philosophical cases where the answer did not matter as much as the fact that the question was asked.
>>1354680
Well a monarch or a monarch like leader has proven to be pretty bad compared to constitutional republics, So no he was not right
Is Charles Manson actually the worst inmate still in jail today in history more than 25 years ago in the US?
What does /his/ argue over inmates that've been incarcerated for more than 25 years?
>>1354549
I'm still surprised at how much sense his analysis of The White Album makes.
he didn't even kill anyone. I think he regrets his life and feels remorse but idk if I want him on the street with the way he acts.
He's evil, but he never actually even killed anyone himself. That alone definitely precludes him from being the worst.
Is there a more miserable country in the history of the world than Russia?
>>1354504
Serbia and just the Balkans in general.
>>1354504
China
Haiti
what do you guys think of lloyd
>>1354474
He's alright. He triggers /his/torians probably more then /pol/
Gobshite.
>>1354484
He triggers /k/ommandos as well. Fucking Lloyd and his Spandau's.
Ask a public school history teacher anything.
How did you become a teacher? I'm interested in becoming a history or English teacher.
How do you approach to teaching history?
How do you deal with the fact many kids find history boring?
How do you deal with all the attractive young women?
>>1354498
Started as an aid in college, then decided to get a teacher's education and do it full time.
>>1354508
I try to be as detailed and visceral in explaining events and concepts as possible, without trying to come off as "look how hip I am lol". I study favorite speakers and authors and draw from them how to invest an audience in the subject.
>How do you deal with all the attractive young women?
It's hard to not come off as flirtatious when talking to a young female student one on one because of how much that kind of interaction has been associated with being a pedo, but my class trusts me.
"I must unite the Canadian people under one flag."
>I must unite the Canadian people under A FUCKING LEAF
>>1354457
"I must unite the colonies of North America because it would be easier for trades.* "
>>1354466
trade is important
Has terrorism ever been able to change history?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRI5eWWZIpo
>>1354435
Let's ask the Arch Duke and all the people who died in World War I.
>>1354438
But WW1 was inevitable. It would have happened sooner or later.
>>1354435
Yes, such as when Rome treacherously and shamefully destroyed Carthage.