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What's its name /his/?
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Holy Roman Empire
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Shitting Dick Nipples Empire
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>>1359706
It was known as Sacrum Romanum Imperium or for English speaking plebeians the Holy Roman Empire.

Where did this idea that God was All-Seeing and All-Knowing come from if He couldn't find Adam and Eve in the garden until they came out of hiding?

The best I can reason is that His power was exaggerated by priests and travelers, but wouldn't the Church clamp down and prevent that sort of thing from the former? I'm aware that for a time sermons were given in Latin and the common man had no idea what it all meant, but wouldn't the Church nevertheless become aware of and stamp out popular beliefs that conflicted with what the Bible says?

There are, of course also remote areas where once Jesus Christ is removed from their version of Christianity it's pretty much the native beliefs from some hundred or thousand years ago before missionaries arrived. Somehow, I doubt that such remote communities would have this massive influence that leaves most people today thinking (wrongly) that God is All-Knowing and All-Powerful.

So where did this misconception come from?
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Originally Yahweh was a Canaanite storm spirit, he had wives and petty squabble with Baal and the rest of the Babylonian Fun Bunch.

Eventually the Greek philosophers started coming up with fun big infinity ideas about Ideal Perfect Forms and Omni-whatevers and the later Christians started saying about their new guy "Yeah mee too, my God is also those things! Haha!"
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>>1359735
I thought he was the war god and baal was the storm god
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>>1359735
Yup. That sums it up nicely.

Tel me the position of Plato about the democracy
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"Democracy sucks balls!"
t. Plato
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>>1359345
Plato was more into an oligarchy of philosophers making all political decisions (I think, my Plato is rusty).
So if that were the case, he would not be about democracy at all
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>>1359411
Basically this. Democracy killed his BFF, he was a total fanboy of Sparta, though.

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is there any difference between catholicism in latin america and catholicism in europe, aside from the fact that in latin america the prayers are orange skinned and in europe they're white?

i mean in terms of how they hold the mass, how they pray, how fevours the believers are, anything really.
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>>1359322
Syncreticism is very high amongst Catholic populations in Latin America.
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>>1359322
Europeans are polythiests. Latin American at least uphold the bible.
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Look up liberation theology to understand Catholicism in Latin America

Life on a materialist view is absurd. There is a mismatch about what we feel should be, and what the materialist believes.

Many materialists have noticed this, and they usually go one of three ways: either they kill themselves, they embrace absurdity with a sort of bravado or humour, or they start trying to convince themselves that materalism is false for personal gain.

I want to suggest a fourth reaction: why don't we see this absurdity as something that can't be true? Isn't the definition of absurdity that it doesn't make sense? Don't we actually have a proof by contradiction for materialism?
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>>1359016
That's a whole lot about nothing.

So stuff isn't as you though it would be? Big whooop. You don't care so much after a while. And I don't get why call it absurd.
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>>1359037
>You don't care so much after a while.

I would say you are taking the second path. And I know what you mean, the frequency with which you think about it certainly decreases.

But every time you DO think about it, it's just as baffling as the first time.
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>>1359016
How are 2 and 4 incompatible?

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Is it true you can know if a Russian has aristocratic ancestry based on his family name?
If so how?
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>>1359002
Bump for interest.
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Everyone has aristocratic ancestry. So, no.
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>>1361363
He probably means Patrilineal.

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What ever happened to the She-Wolf that raised Romulus and Remus?

Also general Rome and mythology thread.
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I thought this was really interesting
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>>1358936
She started a different family. She never could bear to be around Romulus again since the incident. It was just too hard to forgive, you know?

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Anybody interested in talking about economic history?Also, gibe recommendations. This one is mine, top tier book.

>What school(s) of thought do you believe in?
>Do you think economics should strive to be a hard science? Can economics be a hard science?
>Should economics look at the discipline of political economy again?


>inb4 go to /lit/
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>>1358851
Seems neat, is this a kind of encyclopedia?
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>>1358862
Nah, it's basically a non-fiction book documenting the history and evolution of the discipline through the eyes/writings/ideas of leading economists. It basically contextualizes where each of these figures came from philosophically and lays out the strengths and criticisms afforded to each of them by their chronological successors.
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Britain's biggest mistake was not electing an early Keynesian in the 1920s-1930s instead electing one government committed to Austerity, and another that was controlled by a chancellor who was committed to Austerity, who shot down every proposal for a young minister who was in contact with Keynes throughout his period in office.

Anything about Keynes by Skidelsky is good, and Skidelsky's 'Politicians and the slump' on Britain and the economic issues of the interwar period

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What are some historical events that would not be believed by an audience if shown in a movie?
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Probably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
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The Emu War
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My life

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What made the Swedes so good at war?
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Why start this thread while most threads are asleep?
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Our genuinely Swedish barbarism

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-Western Anatolia was one of the only three places where we're sure agricultural revolution started on its own (the other ones being Mesoamerica and China)

-The Balkan peninsula, the Aegean sea and Anatolia were the homes of two (Mycenaean and Hittites) of the great local powers powers before the Bronze Age collapse (others being the Assyrians, the Egyptians and the Babylonians).

-The Balkans were at the forefront of philosophy, becoming the cradle of Western civilization and a great influence to Islamic civilization, two (arguably the two most important) of the great civilizations in actuality (the only others being Chinese and Indian).

-The Balkans was the place of birth of greatest conqueror in history up to late antiquity, with the empire reaching all the way to India

-The Balkans and Anatolia were the area where the Roman Empire survived all the way to the 15th century, having quite possibly the biggest economy in the world during most of that time and by far the biggest city in Europe (even now it's the second biggest after Moscow, and Moscow was directly founded in response to its conquest).

-Now, those areas are home of several failed and failing states, and Balkanization has become synonym with states breaking up. It's probably enough to say that the most successful and influential state in the area is probably Turkey.

How and why does this happen.
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>>1358446
>Moscow was directly founded in response to its conquest
This makes me doubt everything else you wrote
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>>1358446
Didn't the Americas have their own agricultural revolutions, too?
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>>1358446
Anatolia got fucked by constant wars, and then by turkish corruption.

Mainland balkans got fucked by being constantly conquered by foreigners with no reprise to form their own states. Heck, this continued into the 90's when the commie bloc dissolved.

Given time and work, it will heal

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>inb4 100 years' war, it was a succession war launched between 2 french dynasties more than a real conquest (like Guillaume).

When you look back it is kind of strange that entity remained during 1500 years.
I mean far more sheltered territories like Spain and Italy needed centuries to reunify under the same authority that they had during the Roman Empire while they were relatively protected by ther geographic position, I don't even speak about actual Germany which was a succession of micro-states after the end of the Holy Roman Empire and waited until 2 centuries ago to be reunited after.

Finally, and I think it is important, France was always a multi ethnic states, the North-East is basically germanico-celtic while the South is romano-celtic.
At that you can add some "strange" addition with greek colonies during the Antiquity and Norvegian settlement in Normandie and the Bretagne which was colonized by Celtic Britons (during the same time as germanic invasions).

Pic related: territory evolution from the first french dynasty and the first "french" king Clovis to Charlemagne Empire division between his sons.
So why did French actually managed to survive their geographic position and cutlural differences between North and South ? Especially from their neighbors in the East and the West.
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>>1358260
Until what, 1300, it was nothing more than a loose confederation of provinces swearing fealty to each other?
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>>1358292
There was no nation itself but the Kingdom was here and the power centralized.
Charlemagne organized the first missi dominici in 780 whose role were to inspect and deliver justices in the Empire, the counts were obligated to make a personal oath of allegiance to the Emperor too.
So it was much more than a confederation, there was a clear hierarchy.
The central power was temporarly weakened under the Plantagenet/Capetian war and the rise of the Bourguignons but at the end of the Hundred Years' War it was over.
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>>1358292
>loose confederation of provinces

You don't understand feudalism

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I just went to /pol/ and they said this was a horrible board filled with leftist talking points.
Does this mean this board is good?

Also what are some good places to start reading about Chinese philosophy?
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>>1358032
>I just went to /pol/ and they said this was a horrible board filled with leftist talking points.
>Does this mean this board is good?
No, the people that bad people oppose aren't necessarily good. It's like Hitler and Stalin. You can guess which is which.
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>>1358044
>bad people
When in doubt, scream racist!
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>>1358044
So this board is just as pseudo-intellectual as they are?

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Did she do anything genuinely wrong?
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>>1357936
Some of the king's most PR-wise disastrous decisions were reportedly made at her advice. Other than that, there's little for her to be blamed for. A woman of mediocre qualities taken over by wave of events that crushed thousands of lives. She was more of a victim of prejudices - people of France hated Austria, so an Austrian princess was also hated.
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That depends on what you mean by "genuinely".

She made a few mistakes, but nothing that wouldn't have been excused as just gaffs if she wasn't Austrian and the time wasn't so tense. I don't think she viewed the French people with anything close to malice, if that's what you're asking. And she certainly didn't deserve what she got.
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No. Just blood for the blood god (which leftism was until it was castrated by liberalism), so to speak.

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If you were a regular pleb in from a small village in the middle ages, and your people was about to be conquered, who would you prefer to be brutally killed by?

Vikings, Mongols or Arabs?

Who were the most savage and sanguinary warriors ever?
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You were going to get raped, murdered and enslaved by all three, its just a case of choosing what your attackers look like. That said I'd probably choose the Vikings.
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>>1357398
You could add mayans to that list. Tbh I don't know who would be the worst. Being tortured while watching your women get raped and your village set on fire before being eventually killed would have been horrible with any of those. I guess vikings at least were white.
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>>1357398
>Vikings, Mongols or Arabs?
so snowniggers, steppeniggers, or sandniggers?

fuck it, I'm moving to Italy

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