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>>1524660
>zaro-macedonian backwash.
mameluke states were quasi respectable in the same sense the crusader states were, the rest is niggerdom.
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>>1524660
Why do they have that isolated territory in the southwest?
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/cathodox/ - Catholic & Orthodox General 2016-08-08 20:40:50 Post No.1524181
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Thought this might be handy general for this board, given the amount of discussion of Catholic and Orthodox topics.
Everybody have fun, and please keep all autism and shitposting to an appropriate minimum.
I'd be especially interested to hear more about Hesychasm from any Orthodoxbros, it's a pretty fascinating practice that seems not to have made it to Catholicism at all.
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> given the amount of discussion of Catholic and Orthodox topics.
Such as? No one cares about this shit other then you.
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>>1524189
Just trying to get some friendly discussion going, no need to get all aspergers about it :)
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This thread will die soon because christians here just want to argue with non-believers and preach to anyone who doesn't want it.
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Is suicide the only logical response to existence?
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>>1540774
First you gotta explain the logic you're using mate.
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>>1540774
Yes
But if you are altruistic, then killing other people before killing yourself would be preferable
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Depends on your axioms
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From the middle ages to the 19th century how did Christian scholars rationalize the extreme gayness of the Greeks?
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>>1534674
>i-i-t's platonic.
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just don't acknowledge it and it's not a problem.
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PEDERASTY ISN'T GAY
IT'S A FEMININE PASSIVE I SWEAR
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Why are children the focal point of everything?
Why is it so much worse for a child to be killed than an adult?
If anything, it should be the other way around, right? The child has spent less time on this earth, hasn't made ties, connections, and relationships, or even the ability to comprehend such things.
If anything the hypothetical dead child got off easier this way.
I honestly think it's just a method of guilting someone. Logically it makes no sense.
This is just one something that I don't understand about humanity, or how we come to agree on what is right and wrong and draw lines.
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>>1532377
I forgot to ask the question, habit always been this way?
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>>1532381
>habit
has it*
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Childhood was an invention of bored Victorians
People in ages past had 0 issues with murdering, torturing, raping, enslaving, abandoning, or generally abusing children
They were seen as small adults
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Why were early Christians so violently autistic?
>kill each other over whether the son is subordinate to the father or equal
>kill each other over whether god has 1, 2, or 3 forms
>kill each other over icons
>kill each other over how the "essence of the trinity" is perceived
>kill each other over Christ's will
>kill each other over whether Chris was adopted or not
>kill each other over the nature of baptism and the priests performing the baptism
>kill off Gnostics because why not?
>continue this tradition all the way into the late Medieval ages and Rennaisance, resulting in the most destructive and traumatic wars and divisions to ever scorch Europe.
Meanwhile, in the Pagan world.
>Isis is worshipped by many in Rome and even by some Roman Emperors
>synchronize Amun and Zeus when Greeks rule over Egyptians
>people sometimes worship Roman, Greek, Celtic and Egyptian gods at the same time.
>pagans accepted other faiths and gods and affirmed their existence to others, even when they didn't worship them.
>deify great rulers all the fucking time
>everybody more or less accepts and tolerates one another, and multiple temples and priestly orders exist all throughout the world with wildly different practices and beliefs but right next to each other.
Why are Pagans so "chill" about divine beings in comparison with the string of autistic conniption fits that Christians and Muslims had all the time over the nature of their god?
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>>1538304
>Implying christians stopped to kill heretics
What are the South Sudanese? They unironically converted to christianity to kill the arab-muzzies and fight them.
Imo the next crusaders will be the africans and they will cleansy Africa from any muslim presence both by the sword and the preaching.
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>>1538304
Because pagans look at it as fiction while Christians recognize the difference between Heaven and Hell
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>>1538372
Hopefully they'll be Protestants
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Can we blame him for everything that's wrong with the world today?
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>supported Lenin
>tried to get Mexico to annex chunks of the US
>allied with the Turks
>shat on everything Bismarck carefully built
That guy was the cunt to end all cunts.
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>>1538087
I genuinely, unironically believe he was a high functioning autist.
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>>1538087
So, Hillary Clinton?
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Why does Russia have such a strong tendency to produce cruel and autocratic leaders?
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>>1535936
Putin is a good man.
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>>1535938
>good
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>>1535936
A certain degree of strong hand is required to hold Russians under control.
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Deus Ex: Bartender Isaac debate
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>Isaac: China is the last sovereign country in the world. Authoritarian but willing - unlike U.N.-governed countries - to give its people the freedom to do what they want.
>JC Denton: As long as they don’t break the law.
>Isaac: Listen to me. This is real freedom, freedom to own property, make a profit, make your life. The West, so afraid of strong government, now has no government. Only financial power.
>JC Denton: Our governments have limited power by design.
>Isaac: Rhetoric--and you believe it! Don’t you know where those slogans come from?
>JC Denton: I give up.
>Isaac: Well-paid researchers - how do you say it? - 'think tanks,' funded by big businesses. What is that? A 'think tank'?
>JC Denton: Hardly as sinister as a dictator, like China’s Premier.
>Isaac: It’s privately-funded propaganda. The Trilateral Commission in the United States for instance.
>JC Denton: The separation of powers acknowledges the petty ambitions of individuals; that’s its strength.
>Isaac: A system organized around the weakest qualities of individuals will produce these same qualities in its leaders.
>JC Denton: Perhaps certain qualities are an inseparable part of human nature.
>Isaac: The mark of the educated man is the suppression of these qualities in favor of better ones. The same is true of civilization.
Did the bartender have a point? Will strong government one day be the only way to protect people from globalism and corporate control of the economy?
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Yes.
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The bartender was Australian too I think which I found amusing.
Also yeah he's right. PRC might even be a better place to live well in the future after neoliberalism wrecks the west.
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>>1535334
Maybe
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Are the english germanic?
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The language is
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>>1538688
but the people, compared to germans?
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>>1538685
Anglo-Saxon you mean?
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Philosophy of government, voting. 2016-08-11 21:53:43 Post No.1536304
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Philosophy of government, voting.
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Who should be allowed to vote in a country? Should there be a land owning requirement? Wealth requirement? How about ancestry? should some peoples vote be worth more than others, and who? Should every citizen have the vote?
What things should be voted on by citizens, and what by politicians? How direct or indirect would you prefer your democracy?
This is a History & humanities thread, not a /pol/ thread, stay classy here.
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>>1536304
I think for high positions like presidency only one person from said family should be allowed. Basically so you don't have families like the Bush's running for president one after another. I'm not sure how far into relations it would go and if it would go.
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>Should there be a land owning requirement? Wealth requirement? How about ancestry?
How do any of these things make someone more qualified to vote? The only thing that would make sense is education level, but even then not necessarily (many degrees have nothing to do with governance).
Plus, when you only give votes to educated people, there's an incentive to enact policies that hurt the nonvoting groups.
The only thing that makes sense is to give everyone the vote. If not, it would be better to just choose a non-democratic system IMO.
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>>1536304
>Who should be allowed to vote in a country?
Every citizen legally considered responsible for his own action (not sure which is the proper term in english) should have a vote.
There isn't really any way to discriminate against bad voters, because no one can objectively decide who is right and who is wrong and so actually manage to find a way to select people fit to vote.
So your only option is to let everyone vote, and hope for the pool to be wide enough to cancel out biases.
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If capitalism doesn't work, and neither does communism, fascism or anarchism, then what works?
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A continuous cycle comprising all of the above.
People don't do well with stability. It leads to stagnation and corruption.
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>implying it doesn't
Working fine where I am lad.
The only absolute to get rid of a system is to smash it.
Anarchy is the key.
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>>1513263
Feudalism
Why did polytheism fail in the Western world?
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Poor marketing
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ISIS tier Abrahamic barbarity + demagogue politicians against a minorty of educated citizens that no longer believed in their religion.
Literally the same thing going on in Europe right now.
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Communism In Your Life 2016-08-07 21:20:44 Post No.1519934
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I'm sure some of you have some funny or in the least interesting stories related to socialist/communist acts or ideas in your life?
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My grandfather killed commies in Korea during the 50's
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>>1519934
Sorry if shit greentext but I thought it was relatable.
>be me like ten circa 2005 or 2006
>get invited to kid from school's birthday party/sleepover
>he invited the whole class but I didn't have many friends especially outside of school so I was excited nonetheless
>day of party comes
>kid's mom's apartment is on the east side of town innaghetto
(no idea why dad let me go. Probably thought it was important to me. Thanks dad)
>long ass drive for some reason
>bring Gameboy Advance for ride and link cable in case Pokemon to trade at the party
>finally get there
>other than kid that invited me I don't recognize anyone
>I am the only kid from school that showed up apparently
>only one who brought him a present
(I wish I remember what I got him)
>we do normal birthday shit and he opens my gift
>play Call of Duty 3 campaign
(I think that was my first time seeing and playing COD)
>it's getting late so his mom tells everyone it's time to go to bed
>not tired so decide to play some Pokemon
>random friend of birthday kid next to me says "HEY CAN I PLAY?"
>"No, I don't even know you"
>kid gets really pissy for some reason and wakes up birthday kid's mom
>he tells her I won't let him play
>kid's mom tells me I'm not allowed to play because the other kids don't have Gameboys
>WAT.jpeg
>whatever
>try to go to sleep but can't
>after a half an hour to an hour everyone else is asleep so I decide to play again
>forgot to turn down volume before turning on Gameboy
>kid next to me wakes up
>"SHE SAID YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY!"
>everyone wakes up
>birthday kid's mom comes downstairs
>she says she's going to take my gameboy and give it back when I leave >WAT2.0.jpeg
>don't fight it because I am a guest in her home and I do not want to lose maybe only friend
>somehow fall asleep even though not tired
>wake up next morning
>dad shows up soon after to pick me up
>"here's your Gameboy"
>t-thanks...
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>>1519937
North Koreans or Chinese?
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Christians please explain this to me.
>"ἐγὼ ὁ kατασkευάσας φῶς kαὶ ποιήσας σkότος ὁ ποιῶν εἰρήνην kαὶ kτίζων kαkά ἐγὼ kύριος ὁ θεὸς ὁ ποιῶν ταῦτα πάντα "
>"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." - Isaiah 45:7
>create darkness and create evil
How does your "muh free will argument against the problem of evil" work, when God literally says he is the source of evil?
And the corollary, why worship an evil entity?
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>>1538014
>why worship an evil entity
Why not
Explain in 10 words what's inherently good about good
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>>1538014
Who else do you think can possibly be the source of evil? He is the source of EVERYTHING, even Satan was created by God.
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>>1538014
God loves us and wants the best for us
In order for us to achieve our best we need to experience evil, to appreciate good
This is why God imposes Evil, through Satan, on us
This is why he is mighty
This is why he is greater and loves us
t. atheist who comprehends basic christian theology