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>>1537611

Really? I thought there would be someone who would at least try to faith alone.

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>>1537611
>how can you argue that faith requires no good works?
What? Faith is outside the bounds of empirical facts and the good bad dichotomy. That's the point of faith. It's belief outside the bounds of proof. It requires no works.

>Can you be faithful and not attempt to follow the Bible? What logic is that?

Most certainly.

>For Kierkegaard Christian faith is not a matter of regurgitating church dogma. It is a matter of individual subjective passion, which cannot be mediated by the clergy or by human artefacts. Faith is the most important task to be achieved by a human being, because only on the basis of faith does an individual have a chance to become a true self. This self is the life-work which God judges for eternity.

God exists outside these ideas of Christianity/Islam/Hebrew/Pagan ideals.

Soren Kierkegaard, give him a squizz. Father of agnosticism and attacked the churches for essentially being wrong, he did a dam good job at it.

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>>1537714

I was hoping to get a protty response.

As you don't really see the relationship of faith and the Bible, then I'm not sure what there is to debate.

I suppose that makes you a heretic though.

>>1533769
Idiotic.

There can be no objective faith so how can you truly believe? Faith breeds ignorance.

All of you can only say "I have faith god exists"
I can say "I KNOW you cannot know that, all you can do is hope"

>>1533769
Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.

- Heb 11:1

>>1533780
You should read John Henry Newman. He has some interesting writing about faith.

How can you ask that?

You'd have to be stupid to ever think something as irrational as communism could ever exist.

It's a fairytale ideology that has no foot on reasonable soil

>>1533195
>once capitalism collapses a world wide unified socialist utopia is inevitable
Where does he say that?

>>1533195
It's even worse than that.

>the workers will take over and kill the capitalists
>they become the de facto ruling class and install the dictatorship of the proletariat
>and then, somehow, for magical reasons, the state will vanish and we'll all live in a stateless paradise

>>1532258

Yes.

>>1532258
uh yes? it's a mental condition that's been observed and studied

>>1532258
Yes, I´m not sure how anyone can doubt its existence.

Because wise men know that good times never last, and sooner or later strength will be required

>>1530543
How many average salaries did a house cost?
How many average salaries does a house cost today?

How many days off per year could people take and keep their job?
How many today?

What was the percentage of unemployed educated people?
What is it today?

Times are different, you can't expect the classic standards to apply.

>>1530548
Kind of a non sequitur, and if anything it proves my point: there are real fucking problems that need to be solved, but people drown themselves in lust and pleasure and kick the can down the road

>>1530259
and when the bitch bleeds for half the year and is out of action for 9months + 13 more years of her life we just turn the other cheek out of good manners.

Haha

how can men even compete

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First type of religious people are wrong.

Second type is stupid.

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>>1526260
>Let us call this unknown something: God. It is nothing more than a name we assign to it. The idea of demonstrating that this unknown something (God) exists, could scarcely suggest itself to Reason. For if God does not exist it would of course be impossible to prove it; and if he does exist it would be folly to attempt it. For at the very outset, in beginning my proof, I would have presupposed it, not as doubtful but as certain (a presupposition is never doubtful, for the very reason that it is a presupposition), since otherwise I would not begin, readily understanding that the whole would be impossible if he did not exist. But if when I speak of proving God's existence I mean that I propose to prove that the Unknown, which exists, is God, then I express myself unfortunately. For in that case I do not prove anything, least of all an existence, but merely develop the content of a conception.

>Kierkegaard primarily discusses subjectivity with regard to religious matters. As already noted, he argues that doubt is an element of faith and that it is impossible to gain any objective certainty about religious doctrines such as the existence of God or the life of Christ. The most one could hope for would be the conclusion that it is probable that the Christian doctrines are true, but if a person were to believe such doctrines only to the degree they seemed likely to be true, he or she would not be genuinely religious at all. Faith consists in a subjective relation of absolute commitment to these doctrines.

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>>1526260
religion is a coping mechanism once you face your failure of your life, just like other contrived fantasizes, your faith in the scientific method included.


Religions are meant to leave material-bodily hedonism, travels, concerts, foods, sex and so on, for a spiritual hedonism, through prayers for theists and mediation for atheists.
Plenty of material hedonist love to think of themselves as less hedonistic than they are, since it improves their hedonism in thinking that they are not animals...most people who claim to be religious are not all, it is just the way they are.
In buddhism, you even leave this spiritual hedonism, after you have gained it, which is called jhanas, since you understand that this bliss from prayers, which is just a great, but not perfect concentration-stilness, are not personal nor permanent and that you are still prone to avidity and aversion.

>>1526381
>i wish a cheating wife would result in a mass murder by assault rifle
>i hope more children kill themselves playing with what they find in their parents closet
>i have the desire to see edgy rebel period teens have the ability to actually act out their corrupted dreams

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>>1526478

>being a freedom hating commie

>>1526487
>being a mob rule anarchist

Are you sure you are being entierely rational in your example?
The facts are not denyable. In USA black people are more violent than others groups. There is a correlation between blacks and violence but it does not mean there is causality.
Your skin color does not make you violent, and being violent doesnt turn you black.
In fact you should focus on the real determinents of Physical violence. What about social domination, symbolic violence, social segregation, poverty and so much more factors that are particuliary important against certain groups of people?
What if I tell you your solution "run away from black like the fat americunt you are" is the cause of US black people violent behavior? Your racism and the social disqualification you throw at people based on their skin color is the root of your problem.

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>>1531027
caution is not judgement

for fucks sake what fucking bullshit

PEOPLE WEREN'T IN FUCKING BOATS LEARN YOUR FUCKING HISTORY!!!!!!

DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS WTF?!

>>1513758
Wtf I hate boats now.

Beaches?
What fucking beaches, there weren't any ffs!

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Can't even imagine how shitty Spain would be now (though it probably wouldn't exist anymore) if the Republicans/communists had won

Why liberal democrats cry over the death of a soldier (Khan controversy) and are outraged that Trump's wife once took some sexy pics (what happened to the traditional family?!), even though they're anti-war and anti-morals? Leverage.

>>1533969
If I knew I would get to work on destroying it

>>1533969
Lack of education.

>>1533969
The Midwest is where most of the more recent giant-family whacko-religious and Eastern European immigrants to the US of A went to. Big empty spaces mean that what communities are there are insular.

>>1532280


Good. By and large they were over-expensive pieces of crap, built to fight a war of intimidation and not a real war. Mahan was a hack.

>>1532280
Battleships are like strippers.

Nice to look at, not good at very much.

>>1532280

You mean dreadnoughts, right? Older type battleships had their fair share of encounters, plus they had more interesting designs.

>>1529894
I think it's because American colonists were most affected by the French and Native Americans, and weren't concerned about Frederick the Great taking on 3 countries at once.

My highschool AP US History class called it the French and Indian War (cause our involvement in the war was fighting against the French and the Native Americans) and mentioned that it was called the Seven Years' War. My AP World History class referred to it solely as the Seven Years' War, with the mention that we usually call it the French and Indian War here in the US.

>>1529894
My continent, my rules.
Yurotrash go home.