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r/askphilosophy

Why is my approach to thinking about philosophy bad?

u/SoYouBeSaying105d

I ask "why bad" instead of "why good" because it leads me to discard most of what is said on this subreddit as pointless, so Im asking why I would be wrong.

The Munchhausen Trilemma [1] really crystallised what I thought about philosophy already. So many philosophical conclusions depend on the initial axioms, yet nobody can prove the axioms (unless they use other axioms but those need to be proved and so on). This is what I believe and it leads me to see so many questions on this subreddit as pointless and inane. To give examples:

"If determinism does exist, are our lives not meaningless?" [2]: Well, obviously you can solve this in a second because it depends on whether you choose to assign meaning to your life, which you had no control over. So you can simply choose whatever conclusion you FEEL like. One person could say, "Yes, our lives are meaningless because they were predetermined. (i.e. I take as an axiom that there is no meaningfulness to a predetermined act)." Another could say "No, because I see our physical perceptions as something to enjoy." or "No, it has meaning because I liked watching the Simpsons and felt pleasure at this."

Do you see what Im saying? The question simply asks for the definition of meaningful, which is subjective (although I know that a lot of sneering occurs on this subreddit when the word "subjective" is used, but I think some things, such as the word "meaningful" are not widely agreed upon so I expect more than sneering and insults if you want me to stop using the word subjective) and then the definition of meaningful trivially leads to the answer to the question.
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Another:

"If a person has a brain tumor pressing on their amygdyla, which causes them to commit a crime, are they ethically responsible?" [3]: Thats a greatquestion, but again, it could come down to a number of definitions that people cant agree upon. Definitions that relate to (among other things): The temporariness of the tumour (e.g. should the tumour be compared to a temporary illness that removes mental responsibility or to a gene that promotes violence in people and which we would have given the criminal no reprieve for; as well as the issue of a gene directly causing or promoting tumour growth), the ability to treat it and the responsibility (and capability) of the person to have treated the tumour, the cause of the tumour (possibly inflicted due to lifestyle or societal choices), and so on. But again, the answer simply comes down to your own definition of ethical. Why do people on this subreddit act as if academia has some monopoly over the ability to answer a question like this?

You could say, "OP, the conclusion doesnt matter but the reasoning and collection of arguments does". Well that would be noble but I see a HUGE amount of sneering relating to philosophy, both on this board and others, solely due to people having different axioms.

I dont want to rant, but let me say that I will be hugely surprised if my view is changed. I expect to see not much more than appeals to authority.
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Kys
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you have to go back

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https://youtu.be/vLkaaPzu9jg


>see above link
>Professor of philosophy is spouting some broad brush illogical nonsense

How the fuck can ANYONE take the academia-media-publishing industrial complex seriously any longer? Not just this video but reams of acclaimed people line up to talk shit and either prove themselves idiots or look like they're aiming their arguments at some hypothetical idiot that I'm not sure exists.

Why am I supposed to pretend that some Soho condo dwelling latte sipping liberal arts degree holder's latest short story collection contains profound philosophical truths and enlightenment and is entertaining as well?
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>academia has become a circlejerk for upper class women with daddies money and no real interest in the subject

no shit
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>democracy is about the freedom of expression
>this man is expressing ideas I don't agree with, he's undermining democracy!
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>>1965732
She knows Ancient Greek and has written multiple books on Greek philosophers

What exactly have you contributed to the humanities?

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Who /secretlyatheist/ here?

>still go to church/give money
>don't really believe in a supernatural being
>too ingrained in me to completely break away
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I'm an atheist and I miss going to mass desu. I pop in from time to time.
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>>1965377
I'm not american. And I'm non-confessional anyway, because it's nobody's business anyhow.
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>>1965377
Just why?

I'm the other way round:
>believing in god, even in the catholic church
>haven't been to a mass in years
I totally know I'm a sinner but purgatory will save me.

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/his/torical people who are literally you. Pic related.
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>>1965116
soon...
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>>1965116

>Stand out of my light!

thicc is the default mindset get over it
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Who /giannamichaels/ here?
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high body fat indicated high fertility
it's symbolism that is beyond the day of our modern minds
we just look at them and think "wow ooga booga people loved fat chicks!"

do you look at phallic statues and say "wow, chicks used to love 0.5m dicks!"

it's SYMBOLS
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>>1965130
this girl would be such wife material if she wasn't such a slut...

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What if Benedict Arnold died at Saratoga?
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>>1965060
Nothing would've change, it turns out his betrayal did next to nothing.
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What if G-d didn't have snek in tree?
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>>1965065
thorin snekintree

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And why?
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>>1964923
redditors
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>>1964923
Gypsies
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>>1964923
probably egyptians or achaemenids

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Ancient Europe - basicily homosexual pedohpile paradise yet by many still praised as something better then today's Europe.

Wtf? You want to rape child under your ((((guidance)))) like in Sparta? Or do you really think that old perverts cared about "virtues" of young boys?
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>>1964735
Play that ((((flute))) for me boi, oh,, ohhhh
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>>1964735
Im sure i would enjoy those oyung boipussy, now its called pedophile, back then it was "good relationship"

m-muh ancient world
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>>1964735

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Was Judas a bitch ass nigga?
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>>1964695
Was Eve a triflin' ass hoe?
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>>1964695
Is God the original G?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=033FInn1wH8
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>>1964695
He did what he has to do in order to acomplish the divine plan.

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/his/ I just realized something. LBJ was basically a robot that came into power
>Started a rumor that a political opponent had sex with farm animals, partly for political gain but mostly because he just wanted to hear him have to deny it.
>Got a car that floated just so he could scare unsuspecting passengers by driving downhill into a lake while screaming that someone cut the brakes.
>Called his dick "Jumbo" and would pull it out in meetings and ask people "Have you ever seen a dick this big?"
>Once peed on a Secret Service agent just because he was feeling like an asshole and knew the agent wasn't allowed to move out of the way.
What are some other robots of history?
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>>1964646
>I get my history lessons from vanity fair articles


Ok
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>>1964646

The man was a giant asshole but that car story is amazing.
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>>1964646
>Once peed on a Secret Service agent just because he was feeling like an asshole and knew the agent wasn't allowed to move out of the way.
Blame the wind.

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What is success in 2016?

What makes a well liked personality that everyone wants to be around?

What do women want in a perfect man and what do men think women want in a perfect man?

What is intelligence?

Does taking longer to think of a word than someone else make you dumber than them?

Do we have an obligation to have children as people from 1st world countries?

Why do people not take exercise and physical fitness seriously at all when your health is the most important thing in preserving your life?

Why do people believe that politicians actually mean what they say when it has been shown over and over again for decades to not be the case?

Why is wealth so challenging to accumulate, or why do people think that is?

What is an attention span, really?

Why do people have such a hard time forgiving their parents for mistakes they made, yet they forgive strangers for mistakes they've made very quickly? Why do we allow that attachment to skew our thoughts?

Should everyone carry a concealed firearm?
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>>1964596
Bump
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>>1964596
>What is success in 2016?
Using means to obtain whatever you like in life.
>What makes a well liked personality that everyone wants to be around?
There is no personality that literally everyone likes to be around, different people enjoy different things. To try to please everyone you would need to be shallow in all things.
>What do women want in a perfect man and what do men think women want in a perfect man?
I've never dreamt of a perfect woman or man, so I would not know. But I am certain it varies individually.
>What is intelligence?
The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.
>Does taking longer to think of a word than someone else make you dumber than them?
No, it actually can show you took great lengths to try to articulate your point properly.
>Do we have an obligation to have children as people from 1st world countries?
Not at all.
>Why do people not take exercise and physical fitness seriously at all when your health is the most important thing in preserving your life?
Because of two reasons: most people like to think that it "won't be them" and that many more are woefully under-educated on it or don't have the time.
>Why do people believe that politicians actually mean what they say when it has been shown over and over again for decades to not be the case?
It varies from politician to politician and person to person. Sweeping generalizations help no-one.
>Why is wealth so challenging to accumulate, or why do people think that is?
In most societies now-a-days, there is low economic mobility as much of the wealth is being spent by the richest in society, and no "new" wealth is being distributed at a fast enough pace to improve that. In short, economic stagnation.
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>>1964596
>>1964676
Cont.

>What is an attention span, really?
By definition, the length of time for which a person is able to concentrate mentally on a particular activity.
>Why do people have such a hard time forgiving their parents for mistakes they made, yet they forgive strangers for mistakes they've made very quickly? Why do we allow that attachment to skew our thoughts?
Most likely the feeling of betrayal by someone you trusted. They should know how you would feel in a scenario, a stranger should not.
>Should everyone carry a concealed firearm?
Depends largely on the situation of your nation.

>Terrorism has never changed history in a constructive way

How true is this statement?
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It's completely true, but only tautological so. If it changed history in a constructive way, we don't call it terrorism. Revisionism sucks, but it's the way a lot of institutions approach history.
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Terrorism is the reason the United States is a thing
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>>1964249
>the sad sack of fat in the back rethinking his choices

Agrarian reform now! Optimates delenda est!

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Was the holocaust justified? I mean, everybody hated the jews, but why?
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People tend to not like tax collectors and bankers.
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sure, why not

no one is complaining about the ethnical removal of white people in Europe, but that's more to do with them comitting ethnical suicide
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Killing people is a bad thing.

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>>1963984
Are you always the same op? Every other day I see a thread about a random Roman emperor
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>>1964008
all me
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>>1963984
macri gato

ITT: things that made you question the accuracy of historians

>Abbott talking about corn in the Roman Empire
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>>1963859
This is what he means.
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>>1963896
But that's rice.
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>>1963896
That's grain

>>1963903
???

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