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>be Catholic
>ignore the first two commandments

Papism: not even once
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>>1972185
>false idols
>false
key words are important, you would know that if you passed 1st grade.
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>>1972185

Why the hell should someone follow them?
>Causeamsgoivhaweuignow
Nobody cares.
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>>1972187
>thou shalt make no graven image
>thou shalt have no other gods before me

Catholics break these on the daily

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So many of them have light skin, and blue eyes and stereotypical ''Aryan'' features, so why did the Anglo's pretend they were light skinned black people?
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Because "white" is just a meme.
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Only britbongistani /pol/ shitposters do this and they do it to troll potatoniggers.
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Britain weaponized memes before everyone else.

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What happens to our brain when all we see is negative feedback from other users on sites like these?

Who else feels better after a long break of not posting on here?

This philosophical approach to life opens a new mind. Rather than care about what others think about what we think, we can just tune them out.

Which sounds better :
>A) Having your own confidence in your opinion
>B) Having your opinion undermined by others

It is like two people arguing all day over something very small, and at the end of the day, that persons conscious is filled with all kinds of negative thinking about the topics they discussed earlier, because someone online went out of their way to make them feel bad.

>"You can't think that way"
>"No, actually, you shouldn't that that way"

What happened to actual discussions about ideas? Why doesn't this happen? Why is everyone so bent over backwards trying to prove each other wrong?
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>>1971632
Having your opinion undermined helps you realize the faults in it numbnuts
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>>1971632
that picture relates to me on every single level
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>>1971658
It looks like people don't really care to discuss anything in reason, or politely. Of course it is the internet, but it just shows that people don't really engage in discussion, but they like arguing.

Like people on facebook talking about politics, they just want to channel out their anger onto a family member's ideas for no reason?

>>1971659
I guess we all think like this and never talk about it haha

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Can the United States really be considered a melting pot or is it more akin to a salad bowl?
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>>1971122
Toilet bowl of diarrhea
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>>1971128
/thread
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>>1971122

My eight great grandparents were born in 6 different countries.

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How do capitalists justify the immiseration of many to the benefit of one as anything but an act of pure evil?
You don't really believe that the myth of """"""equal"""""" opportunity has any ground in reality, do you?
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>>1968872

How do communists justify the immiseration of all to the benefit of none as anything but an act of pure evil?
You don't really believe that the myth of """"""true equality"""""" has any ground in reality, do you?
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>>1968872
Both communism and capitalism are shit, just two sides of the same despicable modernist coin. We need a return to feudalism.
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>>1968878
>I'm immiserated because I'm not allowed excessively lavish lifestyle at the expense of other people
Boo fucking hoo

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Was the Holy Roman Empire really that bad? Like really? Besides the >H >R >E kek giggles meme did they have a golden age? Strong military? How was life in the empire? Tell me almost all I know about the empire.

Memes are welcomed but not always appreciated. Keep the Voltaire shit out of this.
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>>1967817
Little known fact:
All nobility in the HRE was black
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Its memed on because the
>H
>R
>E
controlled largest and most populated land in Europe, yet the emperors couldn't manage the princes and would be constantly BTFOd. Charles V has Spain, the HRE, netherlands, and Austria all under his control, yet he could barely beat the schmalkaldic league and got fucked when France entered. Everyone country around the HRE and various princes inside it hated the HRE and wished to see it fail. When Napoleon dismantled the HRE is did more for german unity and centralization than the entirety of the HREs existence.
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>>1967855
Oh joy. Memes.

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Are aircraft carriers the new battleships? As in, the big waste of money that nowhere near pays for its cost in actual wars?

Nimitz class carriers the US operates cost about 4.5 billion each with amortized engineering and design costs. The new classes of carriers coming out cost about 6.2 billion each because of new features designed in.
That does not include the air wing (65-75 aircraft and related support equipment and parts), which would add another few billion.

So far we have only paid for the hardware.

Fortunately the fuel is not a recurring cost. but we have 3200 men to feed and house. An aircraft carrier is a complex machine with a lot of wear and tear, generally in peacetime use the ships spend half their time on patrol and half their time in port. So for the money we really get only fifty percent availability.

To support and protect the carrier we have an entire carrier group that travels with the carrier literally everywhere it goes.
A carrier strike group (CSG) is an operational formation of the United States Navy. It is composed of roughly 7,500 personnel, an aircraft carrier, at least one cruiser, a destroyer squadron of at least two destroyers and/or frigates, and a carrier air wing of 65 to 70 aircraft.
A carrier strike group also, on occasion, includes submarines, attached logistics ships and a supply ship.
The carrier strike group commander operationally reports to the commander of the numbered fleet who is operationally responsible for the area of waters in which the carrier strike group is operating.
So that's another 4000 men and 6-7 warships and a few support ships (fuel for the aircraft, fuel for the CSG ships, and food and parts and expendable armaments).

Finally you have the overhead of the Navy - all the land-based operations and supply groups and people all the way up to admirals.
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cont.
So considering everything my guess is an initial cost of 10 billion (and I didn't count the cost of the CSG ships) and an annual operating cost of 2-4 billion (entire CSG).

And ultimately there will be nuclear refueling at several hundred million every 15 years and nuclear decommissioning at about a billion at the end of life (40 years?)

And it only has offensive capabilities (you have airports when defending), and isn't as effective as missiles and anti-missile bases near the enemy you wish to attack.

>Moving away from highly expensive and vulnerable supercarriers toward smaller, light carriers would bring the additional benefit of increasing our nation’s engagement potential.
>It would also spread out U.S. naval air power instead of concentrating it in just a few places, where it can be more easily knocked out.
>Small flattops carrying drones and stealthy jump jets would help adapt the fleet away from its current course to a new design for a new era.
t. capt. Jerry Hendrix
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Small carriers with a ramp are the future.
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>>1967141
Building missile silos in the country next to your enemy and then diplomatically insulting your enemy for being upset about it is the future of warfare.

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Who is the worst US president of all time and why is it Woodrow Wilson?
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Dubya

>two wars
>economic collapse
>corruption
>political polarization
>making the US look stupid on a global scale

most presidents would only do one or two of those
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>>1966771

The only people who dislike him are /pol/fags who hate the FRB and women's suffrage, things that were likely to happen regardless.

First you have to define what "worst" means. In terms of preserving the Union then it's Buchanan by far because his inaction led directly to the Civil War. In terms of SJW crap it's LBJ, environmental laws it's Nixon (who created the EPA), Clinton for trade, etc. Esinhower was a pretty shit President too when you consider the decline Americans railroads faced under him due to his FREEway system, a wound which has still not been repaired as most Amtrak riders can tell you.
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>>1966794

/leftypol/ here, he threw Eugene Debs in prison for opposing sending Americans to be slaughtered in the trenches of France, then destroyed the Socialist Party of America for the lulz.

We hate his guts too.

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Redpill me on Eastern Orthodoxy, what are its main differences from Catholicism?
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>>1962922
It's the correct Roman church. The pretender in Rome is a false friend.
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>>1962922
icons are the biggest difference, also theres no point being anything other than greek orthodox since its the real orthodox
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The Orthodox gravitate even more towards being insufferable and edgy reactionaries than even the most ardent sedevacantist Catholics. Also, the Orthodox are LARPers on a whole different scale.

No one I've asked here has ever denied that they only became Orthodox because "muh Konstantinopolis xDDD" or "muh Hagia Sofia! muh Basileia ton Rhomaion!". Other than that, it's just an ethnic club.

Other than that, they're theologically similar so as to be the same, with their differences being mostly cultural and hierarchical. There are a few minor theological differences, but as I said - minor.

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Did Hitler kill cripples? I've looked this up on several sites but get very vague answers such as:

>Hitler didn't like the impaired
>Well Hitler killed mentally ill people!
>Being physically impaired was a death sentence, especially for children and soldier

So did Hitler kill anyone who had an injury beyond a broken bone or what? Because this sounds a little far fetched to me.
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>>1974009
no he only killed those with incurable usually mental illnesses
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>>1974015
Known as communism.
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>>1974015
Aktion T4. Shit was gnarly

Now I'm gonna be blunt. The biggest problem I have with Christianity is original sin, and here's why. The suppositions made here are based on Catholic dogma btw, since it is generally speaking the most liberal in terms of accepting evolution and modern biology.

Prior to original sin we know that a number of restrictions that God has since placed upon humanity did not exist. First and foremost, we didn't age. Now, where did all the shit go? Surely we digested food, surely we absorbed nutrients and excreted waste; we know Adam and Eve ate from the trees in Eden.

Problem: Before the fall, to justify this, we must have had innately different biological mechanisms.

I'll touch on more repercussions of this later. Now since we didn't age, this means that the number of humans God intended upon having was finite. Why? Because if no one died, then at a certain point the number of available resources on the Earth could not be allocated to a population beyond a certain point; this is a biological idea which has a name, but I can't think of it at the moment. As a result, this means that after a couple of generations, there ostensibly could no longer be any more humans, thus meaning that according to God's original plan the number of souls in existence was limited further meaning that according to God's original plan, anyone living today would not be alive.

Problem: God's plan was inherently flawed because of the nature of biology. Again, biology must have been radically different before the fall to support this idea.

Also, since we never would die, how exactly could our cells have functioned? We understand that there exists a number of chromosomal and otherwise biological traits in human that were inherited from common ancestors between modern apes and ourselves. So,

Problem: Humans had cells that did not undergo cell division as they do in modernity. Human cells prior to the fall existed in a state of immortality and must not have divided or expended energy. Cont.
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Cont. So the question is: How did apes evolve to a point wherein their cells did not undergo division? How was such a biological mechanism sustained when we have reason to believe we did not take in energy?

Now also, since we lived forever, there is the problem of the sun. The sun is expanding. We can verify this. All stars expand and ultimately undergo deaths either via supernovas, black holes, etc.

Problem: How exactly would humans have gotten to another planet if God destined for us to exist on the earth? Would the sun simply have not expanded? If it didn't expand, this would mean that the life-cycles of stars could not take place and, as a result, it is highly likely the earth could not have formed to begin with.

The Catholic Church also notes how humans experienced a "dislocation of passions," or something along those lines. This has to do with a few things. The placing of the self before god, lust for the human form, and sexual deviance. So lets go in order. Placing the self before god means that we seek our own best interests and want life to be more enjoyable. The Catholics teach work was already was enjoyable prior to the fall. We didn't have any issues.

Problem: if we already enjoyed all facets of existence, then how would society have developed? How would technology have developed? If human interest was already completely satisfied, then ostensibly there would be no way for us to progress from a civilization of hunter-gatherers. Now this may not seem to be a problem, but in the light of what I'm going to say next, it will.

So we didn't feel lust. There's a multitude of angles we can take here, so lets just tackle all of them. We didn't wear clothes because we didn't have to, as a result of the fact we felt no shame over our bodies. Huge, HUGE problem here for many reasons.

Problem: What would we have done when it became colder outside? Presumably the earth still tilted on it's axis, seasons still existed, etc. So if the seasons existed, cont.
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cont. then how would we have kept alive? We know that we couldn't develop technology, so would God simply have provided this for us? Now if we are to say the earth didn't rotate, then this is to claim that the earth in existence was completely different before the Fall than it is now, a rather bold claim. We could also say that because we didn't feel pain that we wouldn't have been harmed by the cold, but we'll address this later.

So, again, we also didn't feel lust. Great. Except,

Problem: How did apes evolve to exist in a biological manner that did not favor chemicals in the brain that facilitated attraction to the opposite gender? What biological means favored this? Moreover, in simply saying we didn't have lust, not only are Catholics postulating that biology favored an anomalous trait, but also that we must have had brain chemistry that was inherently different from that of modern man. This, again, is an extremely bold claim. There's also the matter of the fact that we experience attraction in the same way as other animals, so this is to say that God intentionally gave us animal-like traits.

Now there's the problem of homosexuality and other sexual deviance. Much of Catholicism excepts that these are biological realities.

Problem: God must have inserted these, or at the very least allowed them to become manifest, after the Fall. This not only goes for sexuality, but for transgender-ism, and things of this sort.

Now there was also the fact that the pain of childbirth would be greatly multiplied. This is a problem.

Problem: Humans mustn't have had nerve cells before the fall or, at the very least, had nerve cells that experienced pain in a manner radically different from those of modernity.

Now let's finally jump back to the problem of immortality. Say Adam jumps in a fire. What would happen? Well, a few things could happen.
1: He can't die, so the fire simply wouldn't affect him.

Problem (a): Human cells mustn't have been able to be damaged.
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Cont. How, then, could we have evolved to have cells that are literally unable to be killed?

Problem (b): Fire simply couldn't burn us. Not because of our cells, but because of the nature of fire. This then implies that the very nature of thermodynamics and energy before the fall was RADICALLY different from those laws which exist now.

2: He can't die, so the fire would burn his cells (he wouldn't be able to feel this or perhaps wouldn't feel pain from it) and they would immediately grow back.

Problem: This implies that we evolved to take on cells that could instantaneously grow back. How?

I want to touch back on the sun again because this is a point I forgot to make. Let's say the sun simply wouldn't expand; after all, the promised land is on earth and earth is where humanity is supposed to be.

Problem: Energy flows out of a closed system in modernity; the earth is a closed system. Then sun will burn itself out in modernity. If the sun wouldn't burn out, it has an infinite source of energy. Where would this energy come from?
Corollary 1: If energy in stars could be infinite, this means that the entire dynamic of energy was completely different than it is now.
Corollary 2: If energy can be infinitely sustained, and also if our cells can live forever, energy did not flow out of the system of earth. This means that the entire nature of causality was inherently different before the Fall.
Sub-corollary: If causality was inherently different, how do we know the 5 ways of Thomas Aquinas are legitimate? Of course in modernity because of the fall causality exists as it does, but prior to the Fall it very well may not have. Humans could have originated first and created God, God assuming supremacy and thus facilitating Christianity through this cont.

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Why weren't chariots used more often in the Middle Ages?
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>>1973433

Because if you have the means to use real cavalry, they're much better than chariots.
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>>1973442
Explain please
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>>1973519
2 > 1

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I remember reading something about an Italian independent city state that was in a way anarchistic and completely lawless, and it lasted for like a year. Any ideas what it could be?
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I think it was the Kingdom of Italy of 1861-1946, OP.
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>>1972895
Not in Italy, you're thinking of Revolutionary Catalonia
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>>1972895

Fiume.

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Do white european caucasoids ultimately descend from:

A) North Africans

B) Neolithic Middle Easterners

C) an Australoid/Dravidian/Papuan type race

or

D) Siberian Ancient Northern Eurasian (ANE)?
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E) Hyperboreans (n shiet)
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>>1971609
>Neolithic Middle Easterners
european caucasoids had already been around for thousands of years before neolithic you turd
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They were already there ofc.
See the brown dot?
Anything else is lemurian revisonism.

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Does anyone have or know where I can find the most recent osprey books? The new modern african wars series looks neat. I want it.
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>Irish rifles
B A S E D
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>>1971124
Mail order from my experience as a colonial
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https://www.mediafire.com/folder/c3bswmt3eo863/Osprey

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