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>had a vocational program in high school
>could have taken welding auto body car repair or building
>took criminal justice instead of welding like a dumb fuck
>mom is in a program where I can go to uni anywhere in the country for free as long as I pay my own housing
>took 2 years of criminal justice in community college and dropped out
>they offer a 2 year welding program
>I could have taken welding for 4 years under different vocational programs
>could be making 65k a year right now while earning a related 4 year degree on the side
>could probably make 100k after that
>could have been rich at 25
>living with my parents at 23 no job 100 dollars to my name criminal record and no degree
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>>1048726
just do welding now its not too late.
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>>1048726
try r9k
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>>1048726
Suck it up, Buttercup. I dropped out of a PhD program after 9 years and 4 research papers. 2 years later and I'm making $130K.
What makes you think that if you even can't commit to a degree that you'll be able to stick to a career path later?
What are some solid stocks with a five year return in mind?
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>>1048500
Short S&P and come back in 5 years to reap your reward.
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oil and gas
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>>1048500
IBM. Don't short the S&P. That's almost always a bad idea. Just dollar cost average an index or something really
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>tfw someone with strong social skills will get farther in life than someone with strong technical skills
How do my fellow /biz/autists cope with this feel?
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>>1048112
wow /biz/ is really dead around here.
Easy, Trust.
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>>1048112
I cope with this feel by learning social skills and working on them actively, as any intelligent, future successful person would do.
Seriously what kind of answer do you expect? "Give up and hang myself"?
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>>1048112
I keep trying to find ways to make more money without being a dopey talker hooked on Game of Thrones or locker into q golfing schedule.
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>Two economists are walking in a forest
>The come across a pile of horseshit
>One looks at the other and says
>"I'll give you $10,000 to eat that shit"
>Ok
>He eats the shit
>He hands the shit eater $10k
>They resume walking
>They come unto another pile of horseshit
>The one says, with shit breath,
>"I'll pay YOU $10,000 to eat shit"
>Ok
>They exchange the money again and keep walking
>"Well,
>That was pointless.
>We're as rich as we were when we came here
>But not we've both eaten shit"
>"Ah but my friend you do not see,
>The GDP just grew by $20,000!"
>TFW Fiat currency rules your life
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>>1047950
>tfw you realize financialization is slavery for the masses
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>>1047950
It's called an externality. Pigouvian tax fixes this.
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>>1047950
>a metric with some flaws is actually worthless under the incredibly contrived scenario i created
uh ok? it's pretty well understood among econonists that fiat currencies have a network effect, and the hard part of generalizing your experience would be convincing an entire country to accept your "one pile of poo = $10,000" valuation
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Identifying Richfags in the Wild 2016-01-18 01:17:05 Post No.1046928
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There's a student in some of my lectures who wears scottish jumpers, corduroys, and brown leather boots most of the time. He has a short haircut, is always clean, never swears, but is kind of eccentric. (He once said that Chistianity and Marxism are more or less than same thing. Shrugged it off as a feeling he had when I asked him to explain.)
Also kind of a prude, though he pretends not to be. He's very sure of himself, but not brash.
No, I do not have a crush on him, I just like to observe people.
I'm trying to figure out if he's rich or autistic. He does clam up when the subject of money comes up. But what are the real tells?
Pic slightly related.
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>>1046928
they spend money like it's a non-issue.
/thread.
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The watch is usually an easy tell
Learn to identify the common models of rolex, omegas and tags, these seem to be the most popular until you hit the mega bux and start getting in to some of the more obscure pieces
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>>1046928
The way I used to tell is that when it came down to it money wasn't a problem for them. That's not to say they spend recklessly or anything like that, SPENDING is something they don't necessarily over-indulge in, but money itself does not hold the same weight to them as it does for a normal person.
Anyway, that guy just sounds autistic.
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Why "Do What You Love" Is BS 2016-01-18 00:01:58 Post No.1046819
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It seems like "do what you love" is pretty much the most commonly given career advice out there.
The idea being that if you align your career ambitions with what you naturally love to do, you'll have a satisfying career.
There are 3 problems with it though:
> 1. What if you don't 'love' anything that can be considered a potential career.
Not everybody 'loves' a monetizable task. The gift for finding marketable hobbies is not one that everyone receives. Some people would legit rather just sit around the house all day if they could; see r9k for ample proof of this.
> Mixing up 'what you love' with 'work' can taint 'what you love.'
Suppose you do 'love' some sort of monetizable hobby. Great. But work is still going to have unpleasant elements regardless--time clocking, shitty schedules, unpleasant coworkers, having to show up at a certain time etc. Mixing up your true love with all these compromises might make you hate what you love--like how videogame testers always end up hating the games they test, due to overexposure.
> Sometimes there's just no market for doing 'what you love'.
Suppose you really loved making maps. That might have been viable ages ago, but now that shit is all done, better than you can do it, by satellites and programmers at Google.
If you're still under the delusion of 'do what you love' this video will straighten you the fuck out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I3OzK-18us&feature=youtu.be
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> 1. What if you don't 'love' anything that can be considered a potential career.
Anything can be monetized.
>2. Mixing up 'what you love' with 'work' can taint 'what you love.'
You will still feel better and more motivated than people working with shit that they don't care about.
>3. Sometimes there's just no market for doing 'what you love'.
Your example is really bad. Not only you can be one of the programmers dealing with map software, you can work as a freelance for RPGs (both MMO and pen and paper) and other games. It took me half of a second to think about this, and I don't give a shit about maps.
TL/DR: Do what you love works if you are smart (top 10% percentile is enough).
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>>1046848
> Anything can be monetized.
I'm pretty sure once you discount 'making a porno out of it' there are some things that can't practically be monetized unless accompanied by massive fame.
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>>1046856
As long as people keep buying stupid shit that they don't need (and this will go on for at least 30 years), you can convince them to buy anything.
Also, sex sells, you have to be retarded to discard that.
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I was a NEET first
then I was an Internet marketer for a long time but I hated it because I had to do disgusting stuff to make a profit (basically bordeline spamming)
Then I got a regular job, at first I loved it now I think of suicide every morning I have to go to that place
OK I'm exaggerating but... I'm dreaming of work from home again, what is a good skill to have fore freelancing other than programming?
I'm actually thinking of relocating to some cheap country like Thailand even. But in the freelance scene you compete with thousands of Bangladeshi and Indians who work for $5 an hour... they mostly do Wordpress and App development though
Any other Freelance skills you could learn on your own ?
All ideas welcome
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poetry
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>>1046327
Like in the movie "Her"?
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>>1046320
Are you that guy from a Slavic country that made a thread recently about not caring that much about money and just wanting free time?
Also, what did you do exactly as an Internet marketer? I don't mind spamming if I can make a living through it.
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PROPER INVESTMENT ADVICE, NO TROLLING 2016-01-20 14:31:20 Post No.1050733
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– Don't look for yield;
– Don't look for rock-bottom prices.
Find companies that a) operate in a sector with a future, and b) have positive OPERATING and FREE cash flows.
If you don't know what these terms refer to, look them up. Public companies disclose their cash flow data in their annual reports. I trust that you actually read annual reports of those companies you're invested in, biz?
The purpose of this advice is not to help you find great trading opportunities, or find high growth companies. In fact some shockingly unprofitable enterprises can be great for speculation, and many high growth companies aren't cash flow positive at all (consider a certain media streaming company beginning with N).
It's purpose is to de-risk your investment portfolio. Strong cash flow is the best and most sustainable way that a business has to ensure it can pay its liabilities when they fall due. In a serious downtown such companies have the most room to move, fiscally speaking, and the best prospects for trading through depressed markets.
Remember Buffet's maxim: a great business at a fair price is better than a fair company at a great price.
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What's Warren Buffets cancerous opinion on Ethereum?
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Selling medical equipment to western europe.
I mean, I contact the hospitals, buy used medical equipment and then contact private clinics in bunch of slav countries. Present the documents confirming that this equipment is operational, and then ship it. here`s a wide range of possible tools: Dental, Diagnostic, life support, surgery....
Is there a catch to this?
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*eastern Europe, of course.
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we eastern europeans dont trust your western voodoo magic
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I'm looking into cryptocurrency speculation but I'm from Norway, what's a good exchange that I can access and that /biz/ reccommends?
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>>1050604
First of all, ALWAYS KEEP YOUR COINS IN A WALLET WHERE YOU CONTROL THE PRIVATE KEY (i.e. usualy the standard wallet program of a given coin on your PC). If you absolutely must keep coins online, have only a fraction on an online vault or wallet.
You can buy BTC via Master Card on Coinbase (53 € daily limit tho) or via bank transfer (SEPA) takes a few days but much bigger limit.
Trade coins on Kraken or Poloniex. USE 2FA on all your important trading platforms and BTC purchasing sites for maximum security.
That should cover the general procedure, if I missed something, then im sure someone else will chime in.
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Considering the current market, /biz thoughts on shorting banks?
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better try snorting
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what do you guys think about ford stock?
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cheap as fuck, the cars besides trucks are a no go, that no one except americans and european government agencies buy, but they own some chinese companies, considering the current state of economy i would consider shorting ford
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>>1050547
>the cars besides trucks are a no go
Except the Focus and Fiesta RS have been some of the most highly-anticipated cars to come out in recent years. And the fact that the Focus, Fiesta, and Fusion have all come a huge way in recent years and are doing really well, of course.
Ford's having a real resurgence in the US market, and have been doing well in England over the past decade as well. If this continues, other countries follow suit.
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>>1050590
No they won't, you can look up how many ford retails have been closed in europe during the last years, europeans buy ford only if they can't afford a german car. Ford makes decent affordable family cars, that true, but the market for those is quite shrinking I think. Germans are one of the most active car consumers and they won't buy a Ford, and that goes for most of the european countries, especially the northern ones, because in Scandinavia Ford is widely considered a car that isn't made for cold climate. About England that's true, they have always liked ford.
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What are your predictions for the next six months? Are we done with the dip, or will recovery come around only at the end of the year or later?
I don't care for arguments about how someone is wrong. Give your opinion and the three main facts on which it relies. No debating, each states his position.
This being /autismland/ I have little hope of people refraining from arguing, but let's give it a try.
I believe everyone suffers from confirmation bias, and each of us can only benefit from being exposed to both sides arguments and dick sucking tips.
This being
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BUY THE DIP
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The dip came from uncertainty about China and oil prices dropping. Once the lag from Iran entering the oil market causes oil to drop again, we'll have another dip, although somewhat smaller than the one we've recently have. Then in 3 months we'll most likely be at the same spot we were before the dip (that is if the markets don't freak out over something stupid). Investors tend to react on big news, so once there's no news to react to people will start investing again.
Of course I could be wrong, but that's just my interpretation of the markets.
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>>1050325
Sell sell sell sell sells ell sells egoaeuhge SELL SELLS EL SELL SE
SELL
SELL
SELL SELL
SELL SELL
SELL
STOCKS GO UP FOR NO REASON STOCKS GO DOWN FOR NO REASON
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>he thinks he knows finance
>he hasn't passed the series 7
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since this thread is pointless im going to ask a question, where can i trade put options in europe?
i want to yolo it like the kid from reddit
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>>1050151
I have no idea, I live in murica. I'd imagine you can trade options at most yuropeeyan firms though right?
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>>1050153
yea but the ones you can want 10k min accounts , yolo kid started with 1k
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I'm 23, in the UK and have savings of around £10,000. Can I invest and turn this into more money some how?
Sorry for a boring "I have £X. What can I do with it?" post.
I've worked since I was about 17 ish throughout education.
I have this money just sitting in my current account not doing anything.
Should I get a deposit and mortgage on a flat or something and rent it out?
Stick it all in an ISA?
Any help would be appreciated. I'm good at saving and have no debt.
Cheers.
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P2p lending
I'm trying to boot a startup but I'm missing £3k and the bank won't give money to neets
And I'm not american so I can't borrow p2p loans, but I know it wolf make someones day
>Fuck
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Never, never, leave your money in a current account. Shop around and put your money in a cash ISA, or an investment ISA.
Talking as someone who is novice. A flat/house would be a good idea, you could also live there and you'll get a bigger tax free allowance (I think it is £5k extra). I have no idea where you can buy with a £10k deposit. First time buyers can get Help to Buy from the government, but I dunno if it applies to Buy to Let mortgages.
I don't know much about the stock market. I just research heavily and then buy solid companies in industries that have growth potential. Nice thing about a investment ISA is that all the money is tax free.
Investing in any thing is all about research, the more you understand about the asset and the variables the better decisions you can make.