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>>501090
You have to tackle finer details in the same way you do the whole model. Progressively refined. Start with the longer/larger flowing wrinkles to define boundaries that help dictate your smaller wrinkles. You also have to try not to think too much when drawing the lines, you have to sort of let your mind truly be random in how it is creating variation. The brain loves to follow patterns, and you have to resist that, as patterns will feel inorganic.

Tbh the example you gave isn't top notch either, assumed it was yours.

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>>501090
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMjnnUF3eJFeh8q3N8kGhfc58CDubQRZA

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>>501091
the pic isnt mine, its actually made by Jordu Schell and hes an amazing artist if you dont know his work but it was a simple example i could find. let me show you something i made last night that i hate and i'll point out all the mistakes on it and hopefuly someone can tell me how to fix it and maybe even what brush to use cuz i might be using wrong brushes desu (i use clay, dem_standard, and standard for most of my detailing)

P.S. one thing i noticed just now. hes wrinkle lines are many different sizes and thicknesses, now that i think about it i think i use one size for most of my shit...

>>499477
Oh, and i'm fairly comfortable with zbrush, thats why i'm not starting with maya or sculptris or whatever.

>>499480
if you are fairly comfortable you'd probably know that , yes that is very possible, mostly preferred over traditional 2d conception, based on your example i assume you want to make characters/creatures/organics then zbrush is a great way to go, learn the fundamentals of art first tho so your not just making shit blob monsters... inb4 'BLENDER IS THE BEST ZOMFG'

>>499483
I've worked as a concept artist for alot of indie devs and been drawing my entire life, so fundemantals of design, form, anatomy and so on is something i'm familiar with.

And no it's far from preferred over 2d concepting. I've never met any art director who wanted 3d artists for concepts. 2d is still alot faster for concept work, but 3d will eventually take over, no doubt about that. That's part of the reason i want to learn 3d properly.

As for my familiarity with zbrush, what i meant is that i know enough abut the interface and the basics of the program.

Can you explain how 3d sketching is done? Or maybe there's a tutorial somewhere?

>>500714

It's just a can. Why don't you texture it?

>>500714

Nice models on your account there.

Do you do it professionally?

>>500718
Look at sketchfab link.

>>500719
Thank you. I'm "wannabe gameartist"

>>499914
>UE4, which is unoptimized as fuck.
Explain this claim.

>>499914
yep, you're an idiot

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It's called photogrammetry m8. People have been doing it for years. Only the static landscape meshes look good because they are actual scanned things and don't really work well with dynamic lights.
The rest of the game, especially the characters looks like the old crysis graphics. Maybe not even that good.

yawn. more weak shit

yeah thats neat and all but where is it? Is this going to be another awesome media composition technology that gets hyped and falls off the earth?

What happened to that software that let you edit an entire video just by changing a couple frames?

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>>499184
These are the works of researchers who work on algorithms for better simulations and real-time game solutions. Like Unity shader editor adapted the glossy area light reflection solution and UE4 has built 3D volumetric explosions based on baking footages.

Here's another one that can be used as an ipad application. They are just coming up with awesome innovations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-foZ64bIxEw&feature=youtu.be

If it was me i'd probably download a MMD model like TDA miku and look at how it is

Pull out verts based on their normals.

DAT PIC. and cool i guess...

>>498739
you are easily pleased then

>>498739
All Live action trailer for games suck.

>>498741
>you are easily pleased then
clearly Bethesda has no idea what the autistic bounds of acceptable are and will crash and burn because most people are like you.

Or, you belong to a minority of nitpickers who constitute a rounding error on humanity and have no net effect on anything.

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make cube
bring in general shape
bevel the edges
make assload of loopcuts
one one edge of the cube selsect every second loopcut and move further inside the cube to get your "wriples"
use subdivision modifier or whatever its called in cinema4d and subdivide the fuck out of it

>>500756
Thanks man! I'll buy you a beer someday!

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I am also new to 3d modeling.
Is doing something like this OK or is is going to fuck me over when I want to do anything with the model?
And by that I mean the faces with a bunch of edges at different points in 3d space like I have around the middle of the leg area.

>>500721
oh, 3dsmax 2015 btw.

>>500721
Next time try to scale only in subobject mode, ie selecting all verts/polygons.

To fix it try resetting your Xform. Select the object, then go to the Utilities tab (the one with the little hammer on the right) and hit Reset Xform. Then collapse the object.

>>500721
You broke the edgeflow by doing that initial chamfer on the corners there. That main large face is now a 36 sided face, when it used to be just 4 sided (a quad). Retain quads with your modeling operations, if an operation is going to generate n-sided faces, think of a different approach or a way you can quadify that face afterwards.

The simplest solution here would be to simply delete the large face and let it be simply an outside strip of polys for now. Then add thickness with an extrude once you're done getting the shape you want. This is how that phone is built anyways, it's a strip of metal around the outside.

you need to be an artist or a programmer to start things off
if not you need to know how to make design documents which is equally problematic for someone that don't have experience or knowledge

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>>500376
Yes.
What this guy says is true.

If you can't program, you can make up for it by knowing how to either
1) Make design documents, or:
2) Make diagrams (Class Diagrams or Object Diagrams)

Good programmers will be familiar with either of those 2. (usually)

If you don't know what an "object" is:
think of it this way.
Every thing you see on the screen, in any video game, is an object.

Every enemy is an object.
Link is an object.
Link's potions, hearts, and weapons are objects.

And Classes are like "types" of objects.
(Enemy Class, Player Class, Powerup Class, Weapon Class).

An enemy object belongs to the Enemy class, etc.

Keep in mind, this explanation is extremely simplified. (dumbed down, to all hell)

And, I'm definitely expecting backlash, because of it.

Also, shouldn't this be in /g/ or /vg/?

I know that /g/ usually has an active programming thread. (or is that /sci/ ?)

>>500377
I have some basic game maker skills but i fucking hate programming

like seriously I will not do even a single 10 letter line of code

I have tried programming for 10 years but i just cant wrap my hand around

i dont understand 1+1=2

but if I do modules then I understand it.

If I have a visual, i cant do text but visual I am good at. I am capable of making a game in game maker where I move someone with arrow keys and can make jumps etc, but i just dont wanna do any code

when i watch tutorials people always use code and i fucking hate code so fucking much i tried it for 10 years but im dyslectic or something i just cant ever figure it out so if I get a visual on it its way easier

but im stuck at some points with it for example I can make it jump and walk around but I have problems with collisions and all collision tutorials are with code and I dont wanna copy paste it i wanna do it myself with modules because I actually want to understand what it does and i feel bad for copying out of tutorials

for what?

>>500282

I only have one thing to offer here. You can see slight indications of truncations around the edge of the base. Otherwise, it looks okay to me.

>>500285

true, I guess I didn't subdivide the base enough to make the edge smooth. thanks for noticing

weapons / props should be separate objects.
personally i would use a PointOnPoly constraint.
(Rigging menu set > constrain >pointOnPoly)
select a vert on the hand, then shift select the sword then apply the constraint.
You can use the third last attribute from the bottom of the constraint attributes to animate the constraint on and off, which is useful for a character letting go of their weapon.

>>500141

You'll want to do some sort of parenting/constraint setup. Don't fucking skin it to the skeleton.

>>500141

No. Stop.

Props are separate objects; you want your character to be able to let go of a sword or a shield.

I'll try to explain the process:

First of all make sure that all the parts of your object are grouped.

Now... you parent the group to a locator and you check that the locator is moving the group.

Done? okay, now you have to create another locator and parent that to the controller of the hand of your character. This usually results on an IK sort of controller.

After that you parent/constrain the locator of the sword and the locator of the hand.
This should allow, when active, that the controller of the sword controls the hand so you end up with some sort of IK control which is convenient whenever there are interactions that require simulating weight.

On the attribute editor you will now have an extra tab. You just 1 to activate and 0 to break the connection.

On a side note i will advice you patience because you are gonna experience a lot of frustration here.
It's a trial an error thing the first few times to get it right because the direction of the parenting is important and parent/constraints direction is opposed to regular constraints.

>>500138
Filesize?

>>500152
100 mos. Can send it through wetransfer since gmail is limited to 25.

Anyone? :(

Well,
This isn't really an isometric drawing. It appears to be a cad model textured to look like an old hand drawing from back in the day. So to answer your question it would be a very easy task to model those items in a cad package and display (or plot) the items in a hidden mode using hatched for the textures. Its probably what I would (and have) done if I needed an image of that style.

Do you need accuracy? CAD or some shit.

Do you just want the visuals? Blender/3DSMAX/Maya can render it easily.

>>500055

For the shading:

If you're using blender, search for "blender npr" or "blender freestyle."

I think Max or Maya has a plugin called "Pencil" that does similar things.

For the perspective:

For blender: http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Extensions:2.6/Py/Scripts/Add_Mesh/Create_IsoCam

You can get close enough to isometric by using an orthographic camera and setting it at the right angle.

Like >>500057 said though, if you need accuracy, then go with CAD. A CAD forum would be able to answer your questions.

>>500020

The only part of the "look" that would be tricky to replicate is the emulation of the post processing effects of old displays as digital ones aren't as prone to distortion as current ones. Faking VHS bleeding etc.

It's a bit like using filters for emulators, you can get reasonable results, but they'll never be the same.

The outputted animation (or in the case of an emulator, the pixels) are the easy part.

just do what mega 64 does

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRg9QvJLHWs&feature=iv&src_vid=6rSLInBkY9I&annotation_id=annotation_1578896607

>>500020
This 'true look' isn't about software it's about hardware. Record your stuff onto old media and then digitize the signal of that recording should go a long way to make it look authentic/shitty.