/qtg/ - Quest Thread General

>Player Question
>What is the most evil thing you would vote to do and still consider the MC to be a good guy?

>What quests do you miss?
Hero Guardian Quest and Lamplighter come to mind.

But Peter Titmouse is the one I miss the most. The art was awesome, QM was funny and characters were colorful. Definitly one of the best quest that started with /qst/.

Ey bois
Rift World quest is live my dudes, if anyone wants to join
>>1108014

>>1107777
Where did titmouse and that Slime Dungeon quest go?

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>>1107678
>>If you have few players, do you stop doing the quest?
Depends on How much work I put in

>What quests do you miss?
I guess... Librarian Quest? i know it ended but fuck me if that wasn't one of my favorite quests

RIP Anlak you magnificent bastard


Also I ran today
Did some exploration of Eli and stuff
http://anonkun.com/stories/symbiote-quest-20/nLFhaigrSfd8Kdqfr/issue-12-rampage/bEkFiJHa59LBgBJeb


PPS would you fuck pic related? Need to know if I'm still good at waifu baiting

Also that DrawQuest called Krieg with the elephant. I love the drawfag's style and hope he comes back. Wouldn't mind commissioning him

>>1108193
She's cute.

>>1107678
>QM Question
No. I work with a minimum of three. If there's two, I toss a coin.

Though I think that I have more people reading my quests than participating. But that's alright. I love you lurkers just the same.

>>1107678
>player question
Deniable Assets Quest.

>>1096524

Still running Panzer Commander Quest, and will try to be available through Tuesday.

I gotta do something here again one day. It wont be great and like 5 people will be there but that will be good enough for me.

>>1108294
>I love you lurkers just the same.

I don't. Lurkers should be shot. Vote or die you scumfucks.

>>1108374
As long as you have 'foot' on this board. You're cool in my book fer tryin. I mean look at Gem Quest. He got 2-3 players but still continues

>>1108487
But you cant stop em, can ya?
Its either git gud or do nothing

>>1107678
>What quests do you miss?

I miss Totemist Quest and, recently, Re:Monster Spider quest. Spider's not updated in about a month or so, and Totemist Quest dropped off before the /tg/ , /qst/ split and it was very fun.

>>1108193
She looks like Cindy Auram if she was into Baseball, so yes. I'd consider waifuing, but I tend to stay away from that stuff for themost part.


I thought about running a quest here involving music-magic and people who summon instruments from gods who govern the music.

String instruments were the highest in social stattus, and when summoners worked together, their instruments would "fuse".

The main defaults were Harps, Flutes, and Chimes.

Certain other instruments were unlockables or options but with surprises in store.

>>1108522
I'll play Kanye West bard quest

>>1108537
No one should have all that power,Anon

>>1108548
Exactly

>>1108522
That's sounds neato.
But what's your music magic style?
Dark Air? King Arthur? Kokopelli? Greek myth or Indian myth? An unspoilable mix? How would what music you have play into the characters? Are there music fights or is playing music just for status with the rock gods?

Because rock battles get weird when someone brings along the deflowering flute.

>>1108193
>Librarian
oh the shame that haunts me for the one vote I regret the most. RIP Anlak.

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>>1108569
He was definitely too good for us

>>1108644
Which QM is the purest?

What's the better way to go about rolls.
Bo3 or Bo5?

>>1108723
Bo1

>>1108723
5 is insane. that's a 22.6% chance for a crit on a d20, double that if critfails are active.

>>1108723
Bo3 d100s.

LOST master of Nightmare quest. Craziest stories I've ever read, but he's been gone for what, early two years now?

>>1107678
>If you have few players, do you stop doing the quest?

I have canceled threads because of low player turnout before, but have never had to drop it entirely. I certainly would if interest dropped low enough though. Lurkers or not, I need at least a handful of active players to work with if I'm going to have any chance of making things fun.

>there are people who don't continue even if there's only one person

No sympathy for you, o those who lament their poverty while they drown in the bounty of their adoring host.

>>1108810

I would go most anywhere,
To feel like I belong.

I dropped my qst because life got in the way. Might continue one day, or I might just continue work on the actual webcomic instead.

>>1108820
Whats the quest brah?

>>1108537
More like bards that summon their god-given instruments.

For reasons, no god will give anyone a Drum.

>>1108567
Music is made by working in tandem with other users, and the more users included in the harmony, the more potential. Solos can make shockwaves or alter material forces in the vicinity, Duos can manipulate physical forces like gravity and wind pressure in the area. Trios may be able to flash evaporate water or create things by manipulating the very world around them like making a house out of the earth and surrounding objects. Anything larger than a Trio is a Band, and some can summon rains over a large area, which is crucial to most civilizations.

It's mostly a mix, although there IS some elements of Dark Air.

Combat would be summoning the weapon, and playing them to attack, which causes opponents to be extremely mindful of their tunes and their opponents tunes as well.

Gods may curse those who use their instruments incorrectly.

Gods may smite those who play beats UPON their instruments.

>>1108830
Most likely Banished

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>>1108830
Squick Quest. The art style was real simple cause I was being quick about it but also couldn't really draw. I've been working on an actual art style and designing characters and stuff but I'm no where near where I want to be yet.

>>1108881
You know, you can get a perfectly reasonable amount of detail from sub 1kx1k res images.

>>1108888
Only the OP images were that large, which was still dumb since sometimes the file was too large. I didn't think any of that through at the time.

>>1108868
>Gods may smite those who play beats UPON their instruments
>God's ain't down for sick improvised beats

Gay ass gods

>>1108911
He should have make quest in Brutal Legend universe

>>1108911
The only gods are of the Chimes, Strings, Harps, and Flutes.

Any fusion-result instruments had a minor-god associated with them, and only Guitar and Piano were cool bros.

There are rumored to be gods of Bells, but the Chime god isn't kind to those that ask about it, even though Chimes are pretty much Bells.

>>1108868
>For reasons, no god will give anyone a Drum.
pata pata pata....

>>1108952
Attempting to make your own instrument is heavily looked down on. You'd be turned into a Pariah, as it is believed that only God-given instruments play "true" msuic.

Tapping on anything in an attempt, consciously or not, to make music or a beat is punishable by the removal of any musical talents for lengths of time determined by each god.

The Piano god is suspiciously lax on this, usually only lasting an hour or so.

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>>1108928
>Brutal Legend Quest

You mean quest to fuck delicious amazon

Because that's what it's going to be if I have any say in it

>>1108964
You're really not making Kanye West Bard quest unappealing

I remember at some point there was a quest of some kinda wrestler guy who needed to fight like 5 people and one was a girl with bugs crawling in and out of her. Pretty sure that won't just stopped randomly. Kinda sad.

>>1108966
Dont forget about the jackblacks and hookers part

shit taste general

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>>1108964
>Attempting to make your own instrument is heavily looked down on. You'd be turned into a Pariah,

How uncommon is the name Kanye West

>>1108964
So when are you running Kanye West Bard the Quest?

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>>1108979
Your mother

You know what that was mean

You didn't deserve that. I'm sorry

>>1107678
>If you have few players, do you stop doing the quest?
Yes.

>>1108868
>You will never remove kebab with the power of your music

>>1108970
I wanted to make this quest, but there'd be almost no monsters I can think of that weren't based on the results of ruined melodies and random noise music.

And I think something already had enemies like that, so I'm trying to be as original as I can.

>>1108980
nonexistant.

Most names include musical terms, such as Fortissimo, Orchestra, Windwhistle, and Adagio


>>1108982
Soon, possibly, but not a guarantee.

>>1109029
>but not a guarantee.
ded

dedquest

dedqm

/qst/ is ded

ever y thi ng
ded

>>1109046
>guarantees on 4chan
That only applies to tinestamps, and I can onky offer a single quest with limited art refs at my disposal.

Mostly Monsterhunter weapons that look like instruments, since music weaponry is almost exclusively guitars.

>>1109051
DED

>>1109029
Yenak of the west

>if you make this quest, the MC is almost surely going to be some form of Kanye West likeness

Hopefully we'll keep it real, and stick to the same fresh feel that "Graduation" did.

>>1109061
But we'll have to fall and make Yeezus
Which is somehow pretty good-ish? Maybe? It was okay? Eh?

>>1109061
Hey, neva let anyone tell there's wrong with cribbing whatever it is the dick spittles these days call popular.

>>1109029
Also you can have monsters be normal evolution and stuff or be the residual melodies, or echoes playing havoc on ecosystems and causing mutations

Or do the eldritch shit

Or spirits

>>1109065
No
THE GODS FORBID IT
>tfw the gods ban that word, and put it right next to DRUMS on the "Smite a bitch for:" list.

>>1109066
I would find it hard to be convinced to name them Kanye anything.

>>1109071
Spirits exist. They appear in areas where musical sounds naturally play.

Like near caves where the wind makes a bellowing sound from the echo, or near creeks.

There may or may not already BE eldritch beings, as products of extremely large melodies in the past that went haywire.

Nowadays, gods have avatars that directly teach groups how to play together correctly, and the gods join together to prevent fallout when someone goes off key or just fucks around.

>>1109078
But Yenak of the West can't be stopped
He has music the people must hear
He'll die happily knowing people heard it

>>1109092
Depending on what instrument "Yenak" chose out of the gifts the gods offered them, they may be purged on site.

Some strangle kids see more than 3 choices.

Some see 4 or more........

>>1109101
strange*

>>1108567
>the flute

I didn't expect a Kannazuki no Miko reference in this day and age.

>>1109197
>Flute

mostly, these are used to heal, cast illusions, or give short buffs to teamates.

But in groups of two or more, they are incredible saboteurs.

Instruments of the same kind joining together are played on joined instruments, so Pianos grow in size, as do flutes and so on. This requires great harmony factors with those you play with, but the payoff is doubled.

>>1108995
Kebab might remove itself if the gods find something to be wrong.

>>1107678
>Player Question:
What quests do you miss?

Be the BBEG quest. I miss it so bad, I absolutely do.

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>>1107678
>What quests do you miss?

That's a pretty poor question. If you want to start a discussion you should ask questions with multiple potentially correct answers instead of just one.

>>1107701
>What is the most evil thing you would vote to do and still consider the MC to be a good guy?

This question is better, though the simple answer is I wouldn't worry about it too much. If anything I'd prefer that the MC can't be simply described as a good guy and rather that they do whatever seems right to them and respond with the amount of force that seems appropriate to them. Nobody likes nonsensical edge, but nobody likes a perfect knight in shining armor either.

>>1107678
>What quests do you miss?
We'll never know if we can fuck the princess ;_;

>>1107678
Monstergirl Mercenary Quest.

Shiit. Want to do a quest but still have worries. How do you QMs take the first steps?

The idea has been scratching my brain,screaming to get out

>>1110188
Since you're on /qst/, you don't, you just stumble into it without a clue or any kind of pre-existing effort put into your work.

Seriously though, what you need is:
>Premise
>General plan
>Endgoal

Premise is your idea, something that you think would be interesting and spectacular. These are a dime a dozen, so what you really need is a good one. This is best expressed in the form of a 1-2 posts long OP that a) has enough flash both image- and text-wise to grab the attention of potential players, b) gives a very clear indication of what to expect from the quest ongoing, c) is exciting enough to make potential players want to vote and wait for the next post and finally d) showcases your highest quality level of writing.

When you have a premise, next you need a general plan. This is essentially an assorted pile of ideas for things that can happen in your quest, even though it's perfectly likely most of it will never be used. This general plan is what helps you not to stall after the first or second thread because you have no idea how to keep your quest going.

The endgoal is often skipped out on, but I consider it pretty vital. A lot of quests basically just go on forever without ever progressing towards any ending. Maybe you enjoy this, in which case feel free to disregard me, but if you don't then you want to have an idea of where to stop before you've even begun. This lets you keep control of the pace of your plot and give your players a sense of progression.

Talking to people who know questing (not qtg) about these things definitely helps.

>>1110188
I'm not QM but I'll tell you this JUST DO IT.

What's the worst that could happen, some anon will tell you that you're shit or you'll be completely ignored?

Quest doesn't need to have perfect start to become good and long running one.

some quest around right know and general opinion:

Rogue Trader quest seems like an imediate success, but I'm a little worried about the character, we have no clear personality or goals, I fear we'll become a generic praiseemprah kind of guy

>>1106078 this shit is interesting, looking foward to it.

this one >>1107976 seems promissing so far but the qm is a bit irregular time wise, we'll see

This guy run a pretty interesting quest in 2014 and he is back >>1091214 I'll be playing it to see where it goes.

and you guys?

What's your opinion on these?

What are you playing?

What do you recomend?

>>1107678

The one Quest I really, really want to do is a Captain America Quest. Sort of like Peter Parker Quest, except you're the new Captain America, a Captain America created by the Trump administration.

Chris Kyle with superpowers/

>>1110280
>I'll be playing it to see where it goes.

do you have any expectations, desires or hopes in that regard?

>>1110280
also, I really am enjoying the tears in rain quest, but it feels kind of inconsistent in presentation - it mixes the computer interface, which presents itself as a quite pure and immidiate interaction with the character, but then he just explains stuff instead of, I don't know, saying
[visual processing...] - Analysis: Aproximation to: Room. 1 Door.

or whathaveyou

>>1110237
>highest quality of writing
Nice meme

>>1110294

disaster, and management

I realy like dealing with extraordinary situations while still having to plan the long term

>>1110310

Yeah I fell you, I think if we got the responses as an interface would be nice.

I like the fact that we only know the information we actively seek

>>1109929
>nobody likes a perfect knight in shining armor either
Speak for yourself. There is so much "gray" "anti-hero" shit these days that it'd be nice to play an actually good character for a change.

>>1110237
>d) showcases your highest quality level of writing.
The night is quiet save for the quiet hiss of the sled's runners through the sand and the quiet muttering of the quiet guards.

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>>1110330
In OPs? Yes! You're not on a tough deadline with these, so take the time to actually show off a bit, flex your thinking muscles a bit, let us know we can at least expect mediocre writing from you while under time pressure.

>>1110447
See me after class.

>>1110428
Well I get that, and that's why I specified there being no need for nonsensical edge. But be honest, if someone pushes you hard enough, hurts you bad enough, even the most saintly of us will eventually be driven to cross some lines we did not expect to ever cross. What I'm saying is, let's play real characters who aren't psychopaths but do have people and ideas we care a great deal about and will sometimes let their feelings get the best of them, ending up doing things they later regret.

>>1110447
>See me after class.
No need. That's the first sentence from one of the most popular quests of all time.

>>1110472

do you remember holy sword quest?

sigfried was a genuinely nice guy and it worked withing the context

I just started a thing. It's on Akun, but that's because it's more convenient for me right now. We're still in the prologue, so things haven't really gotten started, but...

>>https://fiction.live/stories/rebirth-back-again/Pk3PkNFRpbAfnoScc

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>>1107701
Wreck Japan, and destabilize the whole world.

Because if it happens, it's because someone tried to kill one of her lovers and possibly succeeded.

>>1110478
I question this statement, but am almost willing to believe it.

>>1110551
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=banished%20quest

It's dead, but there ya go.

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Shattered Sky Quest returns after a short weekend break! Now with less walls of text!

>>1110721
>>1110721

>>1110472
But Greyfags try too hard to justify their "morals".

>>1110769
in that case just have a little cry and it'll be all better

Why does running a quest make me want to kill myself

is mageknight good?

>>1110820
Pressure and the hollow feeling of you thinking you're not good enough.

>>1110820
That's your braincase subtly trying to tell you to stop.

>>1110820
Because anons are salty.

>>1110769
You misunderstand me. My point isn't to justify grey morals. That would involve making a rational choice. My point is to be irrational sometimes, to not be perfect. To let the MC get pushed so far that they make decisions they would not make while thinking rationally, and to later regret those decisions. Real people do that pretty often. I mean I have to apologize to someone almost every week because I got emotional and did stupid things.

>>1110895
I agree wholeheartedly, unfortunately that means that other players will bitch about those bad decisions until the end of the quest or even just drop the quest because they couldn't handle their self insert not being perfect.

>>1110906
In my experience, it helps when you actually rationalize the irrational actions through your perception of the Character. Like saying "We're just way too violent to not react aggressive here" might already give people pause.

>>1110286
Kys

>>1110922
Rationalize, justify, and internalize.
I feel like not even the QTG pastes cover these things as basics for QM enforced roleplay, it's the same stuff that applies to DMing or PnP games.

Rolled 7, 2, 3 = 12 (3d10)

>>1107678
I needa test the way dice works real quick, please ignore my posts

Should the players know if something unbelievably important is about to happen or will happen as a result of their actions if their player character wouldn't know, or have any way of being informed?

Not that in this case they would know it's because they did anything until some time after.

>>1110985
I'd say don't punish them for it unless it was a blatantly stupid/obviously bad choice.

>>1110985
I feel like in character knowledge and player knowledge should be synonymous with each other. Metagaming can be annoying.

That said the QM should take steps to inform the players in character that shit is about to go down unless the QM really wants to put the wool over their eyes and have them choose blindly because of reasons.

>>1110820
Look at it this way, if your Quest is still running you're doing something right. At least, if you want to still run your Quest.

So many of us have done our best to run, with nothing but failure as a result. Keep going if your heart is in it, for the sake of the ones who are dead.

>>1110996
It isn't a case of punishment, so much as it drastically alters the course of what will happen.

>>1111010
You could do a call back using some other character or event that was connected to the MC at the time. If the player wouldn't know IC already, this gives them a small hint.
If they don't take the hint, or they don't care, that's up to them. That's the point where consequences would matter in how it alters the course of what happens to them. Unforunately this would fall under them somehow having at least one way of being informed, another character or another event relating to what they involved themselves in.

Although that's hard it's better than metagaming or mixing OOC info with IC info, although there are times when that makes things more interesting rather than less.

Ofc, it's also up to how drastic or obscure your hint is.
There's a chance some players already suspect or feel they know it, but don't speak up about it because they'll wait to see how it plays out. If there's a significant time delay between seeing the results they might not care, or it may seem unimportant or out of their control. If it's those far latter cases they could wind up frustrated and unsure of where to go or what to do, because the drastic altering of their course was so delayed. Lots of depending variables.

>>1110985
If there was no legitimate way for them to find out or they chose not to pursue those paths then don't feel obligated to tell them.

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We're live!
>>1111084
>>1111084
>>1111084

>>1107080
Kamen Rider Quest will be live. This time with minor planning involved!

>>1111092
Ask for a roll after they've locked in a choice.

If you do it concurrently people will just back whatever gets the highest roll.

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Kamen Rider Quest is now live!

>>1111157
>>1111157

Alright. Finally created a quest so feel free to join.
Warning: this is my first quest and my first time as a qm
>>1111204

>>1111210
Its about being a otherworldly beings haunting people if you guys are interested

>>1111007
>wasting your time entertaining a bunch of random unknown dudes for free
>doing something right

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>>1109929
Oh captain, my captain...

Damn me for still reading Damp's ask.fm every month out of misplaced hope

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>>1110820
Its all apart of the hobby my man

I decided I'm going to host a new podcast called

#QMDRAMAALERT

And it's going to be me bringing on another QM to argue about shit for 45 minutes and go over the long standing beef I have with them.

Cosmic, you get first dibs for the pilot.

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>>1112272

>>1112272
Already sounds way more thought out than anonkuns "podcast."

>>1112283
The biggest problem with the anonkun podcast is that SPUDS is actually a goddamn autistic giant faggot who knows literally nothing about quests and only became the host because the previous host, DM-casual, who let me mention is also a shit-tier Akun mod, QM and just all around shit tier person, flaked out on the podcast like he flakes out on everything in his shitty garbage online life.

A shitposting Australian whose biggest claim to fame is running a ripoff of Banished Quest is literally ten times the engaging, thoughtful host that that sperg is and that shitposter's not even trying.

It's a sorry state of affairs and just confirms that akun is filled with a bunch of lakescum in human guise.

>>1112304
> SPUDS is actually a goddamn autistic giant faggot

This seems like an unavoidable trait among people who run quests and/or participate in them so I don't see how it's a problem.

>>1112311
>who run quests and/or participate in them

SPUDS neither runs quests nor does he participate in them because his autistic, OCD requirements cause him to seize up and smash his head against the wall if a quest doesn't conform to his retarded, obtuse, objectively shit aesthetics.

Also let me put it this way.

Just because My Little Pony will always appeal to bronies does NOT mean you should start having bronies write the scripts for My Little Pony.

Ya dig, my man?

>>1112311
It's an extreme case.

>>1112317
I dig.

>>1112272
Neat. Live voice interviews? Via chat? Got a release schedule in mind?

>>1112304
Not knowing whoang of those people are, all I get from a brief summary is random salt.

from the first few sentences, I was led to believe that guy WAS the banished-quest immitator...

So just tell me where he lurks so I can avoid it.

What ever happen to titanfall quest?

Haven't been here in a few months. How's the board?

>>1112649
the usual

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>>1111384
Any day now, Anon. Any day now.

>>1112272
I wish you were serious. Your shitposting is genuinely some of the best entertainment I get out of this board, so I just might watch such a thing. Almost makes me wish that you hated me too. Perhaps one day I'll be worthy.

>>1110769

Well, you have Joker, where the MC is a terrible person because of /tg/'s skirt-chasing behavior. The Quest has become a surreal road trip/war story, so don't take my word for it.

>>1112649
bit faster feels to me.

How invested are you in statistics?

I'm asking because I want to run a quest where the MC is in the role of a bureaucrat. Are statistics important to you?

Would you be interested in production totals and cost sheets if you were, say, in charge of a factory producing Ohka suicide rockets for Imperial Japan? Or tanks for North Korea?

>>1113261
can't say I would enjoy that much. If I could decide where the funds go, what gets produced how much, things would be different.

but just working with the statistics according to the priorities of others? probably wouldn't play

>>1113268
Say the focus was really on smoothing over troubles with other branches, or production in the middle of a war, when your area keeps getting bombed. How much number crunching would you need to keep immersion?

>>1113261
In a world where everyday news is 10x more interesting than the vast majority of quests, probably not.

I remember a quest about being a tax collector that was very interesting, but it was more than just collecting taxes.

>>1113279
like, me personally? I'd need a mechanic to simulate the number crunching in a fun way to make it playable.

So I guess I'm just not your target audience.

>>1113280
was that the one with all the stylish 20s mugshots as imagery? I don't even remember what happened there, wasn't it kinda supernatural?

>>1113288
Yeah that one. I'm also probably not your target audience.

>>1113291
>*his
fuk

CIV TOURNAMENT: Choose a race and fight other races forced into a competition of war and dominance for freedom from an oppressive near godlike Warlock.

>>1113298

Is there an archive of quests in epub or similar? Archive binging on suptg is too slow.

>>1113388
How is it too slow? Because you have to go back to the list for every thread?

My God, 3 extra seconds.

>>1113388
what the fuck kind of tool can't open multiple tabs with middle click?

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>>1113388
No, epubs need to be made manually. There's a guide for doing so in the OP paste. It's more work than you could expect the average QM to do for you, but you can ask them if they have their quest text saved on file to save you a bit of trouble.

>>1113392
I find ctrl+click a lot more comfortable.

you know what really grinds my gears? QMs who post openings and then just leave.

>>1113441
Especially when he tried to branch out, leaving a dead thread

>>1112816
Post with your trip on faggot and I'll tell you if you're a cuntbucket.

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>>1113476
Please don't worry about it further, friend. If you require my trip to know me, then you quite simply do not know me and as such I care not; for while hatred directed towards an unknown is as ferocious as the ocean in Fall, its fruits are as empty as a garden in Winter.

If I cannot have TRUE hate, I would rather be neglected entirely.

>>1113497
Don't fish for (You)s outside of /b/.
We should be better than that.

>>1113523
I'm sorry anon, I was just taking the time to answer one of my greatest idols of QTG. Can you really blame me for that?

The Haunting Quest resumes...
>>1113552
You are a Guardian Angel tasked to save the lambs

>>1113528
Yes. Easily.

Rolled 1, 93, 97 = 191 (3d100)

>>1107678
>>1113497
>>1112317
rolling to seduce

>>1113708
Crits and Critfails are active.

I've convinced myself that my first time being a /qst/QM and running a quest is gonna involve the summonable music instruments and all that.


I never realized that MonsterHunter seems to be the only source of music weapons I knowof.

If harem routes are overdone, how do you resolve quests with waifu wars?

Are /qst/ers too moralfag to accept "playing the field" and dating each available NPC once or twice before making a decision?

>>1113778
Look at the situation in an in character perspective and pick the girl with the most chemistry/actually works with the MC well.

Here's the thing. Players can't differentiate the girl that's 'right' for the MC and the girl that appeals to their personal tastes.

For instance I might have a favorite girl personally, but I am mature enough to realize this other girl would be better for the story as a whole due to the context and previous situations so I vote for the other girl.

>>1113778
"dating each available NPC once or twice" will make the whole quest about dating. Running time is limited.

Also, this is a very good way to sour tour relationship with these NPC, if they're something more than CRPG wooden dummies.

>>1113791
This. For example, Ricky is the uncontested best waifu of all available choices in BQ. But Magic takes the waifuing priority because that's what works with the MC and their story best.

>>1113802
Well gee if we're going to start chucking nitroglycerin around with shit like who the best waifu is...

As a general question to all, list the best waifus from the quests you follow.

>>1113807
Misery.

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>>1113807
Clemmy

>>1113807
Riot shield-chan.

>>1113807
Mercy

>>1113807
Aelriss

>>1113841
My nigga.
thread literally never

>>1113807

Katja Hartkern.

I miss Diarca and ReQM

>>1113830
God you actually play Overwatch Quest.

Point at him and laugh.

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAH

>>1113871
no

>>1113877
Sorry, I actually mistyped there.

That should have been

*points at him and laughs*

>>1113847
Slyv will come back to us one day.

>>1113856
Diarca will be back when the planes align again. He always does.

>>1109840
Oh god me too anon. I hope him and his daughter are happy now without the bitch wife.

>>1113885
Oh look, we found a Trick in the wild. What's he doing- oh. Yep. Yeah, he's being an asshole, like usual.

Get AIDS and die, Trick.

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>>1113908
Are you trying to be ironically cringey for a (You)?

Whatever you got mine.

>>1113908
He may be an asshole but he's still right.

>>1113916
Nah, I'm being unironically cringey.

Eat shit.

>>1113920
>>1113908

Are you that same anon in Booker's akun quest that compares me to herpes?

Or are you someone else?

>>1113871
what quest is yours?
I'm legitimately curious.

If I read yours, should I expect thismuch shitposting?

>>1113936
Honestly it's pretty tame.

>>1113935
Aww, Trick recognizes me. You make me go doki-doki, shithead.

Alright /qtg/, I have come seeking your advice.

In a lot of modern fantasy style stories, when dealing in societies that hide in human society while impersonating (or being related to) humans, you often run into the idea that this or that celebrity, political figure, or historical figure was actually part of a given group. Most of the time this comes off as a bit heavy-handed, as in the Percy Jackson series where they just name-dropped shit like, "George Washington was the son of Athena," and then never ever brought it up again.

Now, on some level this makes sense. In any society you'll have exceptional, lucky, or successful individuals who then catch the public eye. It's essentially inevitable that somewhere, some vampire/godling/sorcerer/you name it is going to end up famous for some reason with only members of their own group aware that they are anything other than ordinary people. I'm less concerned with avoiding this trope and more wondering how it might be invoked with any kind of taste or class rather than just beating people over the head with it.

I've considered inventing celebrities whole-cloth for this kinda thing, but that sits wrong in my head. It doesn't have the impact of an actually known name. At the same time, whatever name you pick out to be a member of your hidden group is unavoidably making a statement about that celebrity and possibly their public image.

So...any thoughts?

>>1113945

They're always yandere in the end.

>>1113936

I legitimately ran Lost Island as a non-shitpost quest. When I ran You Awake In Westeros I actually put in decent amount of effort to make it good.

I'm currently running an SMT quest on Anonkun AND I have this weird even more derivative shitpost quest called "Mills in Westeros" which is mainly an excuse to try out smut writing.

>>1113936
his shitposting a coping mechanism

>>1113778
The trick is to make mc spend time with them without making it seem like a date.

>>1113946
Sounds cool.

>>1113949
I'll have to check out the lost island one, and perhaps the SMT one too.

>>1113946

Stop worrying about besmirching the good names of celebrities on 4chan.

Nobody really cares.

Fuck it, make Donald Trump a literal troll and nobody will give a shit.

>>1113946
You really shouldn't care too much fucking around with celebrities.

It's all in good fun right?

>>1113950
What is he coping with?

>>1113971

He is a Qm>>1113949
so you tell me

>>1113962
It's not about being worried about insulting anyone so much as wanting to strike the balance between "magical conspiracies are behind everything" (which is stupid) and "these people have basically no effect on society" (which is lazy).

>>1113977
magic is an easy way out as an excuse.
even magic has rules, unless magic itself can choose.

So what is /qst/'s opinion of anonkun?
worried?
angry?
supportive?
fuck off and lurk moar?

>>1113977
Have these magical fucksticks claim they're behind shit even if they aren't.

Whatever they aren't involved in, they claim to be. Then you can have them say "oh yeah we're the REAL illuminati, we planned everything" then you can find out they're full of shit later.

>>1113983
Shitty format

>>1113983
shite UI smut central

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>>1113983
Pic related

>>1113983
Full of lowest common denominator quests with more, shit tier players

>>1113977
Here's what you should do, honestly.

Change something drastically as a result of magical conspiraces to make the world completely different from how it is in our world.

For example, I know of a superhero setting where they had Abraham Lincoln survive the assassination because a superhero stopped the bullet.

There you go. Instead of having it be that the way the world is is exactly as magical secret societies want it to be, actually change the world realistically to effect something a magical conspiracy might do.

>>1113987
So just like /qst/

>>1113997
If you're an absolutely shit tier writer you can still get a huge amount of players on akun as long as it's smut or fanfiction

>>1113807
Kjorikos
Retard Saber
Mermaid-chan
Nicole
Pixie
Serena
Mojang

>>1113983
Essentially >>1113986 for me.

>>1113946
They don't have to be directly part of the supernatural race.

Say, a celebrity who regularly visits an orphanage to play with kids. The orphanage is actually a home for [group], and the celebrity knows which is why they go there despite not being particularly charitable.

There's also the trite "actually a doppelganger who replaced the real one ages ago"

You could also layer it with mundane fictional secrets. This celebrity is actually 2 people alternating jobs, and one of THEM is the supernatural race, etc. Less focus on what they are, more on the effort put in to create the "image" of that celebrity.

Check out my revival

>>1113672

You don't need to know too much while you're getting into it, just read the PDFs if you want to get caught up quick.

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>QM takes the average of the three first rolls
I support QMs deciding on what type of rolls work for them but that shit is whack.

>>1113946
>>I've considered inventing celebrities whole-cloth for this kinda thing, but that sits wrong in my head. It doesn't have the impact of an actually known name. At the same time, whatever name you pick out to be a member of your hidden group is unavoidably making a statement about that celebrity and possibly their public image.

I think I understand what you mean. Everyone has their own preconceptions about real celebrities, which means that players will all approach it differently or just start memespouting instead of dealing with the plot properly.

Probably the easiest way around that is to follow the old get out clause of creating a fictional celebrity that is obviously a shameless rip-off of a real one, like a Not!Elvis, or a 40Pence. Then you can parody them harder without breaking immersion, because the real life association isn't there but everyone knows pretty much what to expect.

>>1114075
>QM takes the best of the three first rolls
I support QMs deciding on what type of rolls work for them but that shit is zzz.

>>1114075
I once had the players roll for a gambling dice game

They got the worst roll right off the bat

Hilarious shit like that is why there should never be best ofs or averages. Multiple rolls representing multiple actions sure, but if you dick it up, you dick it up.

I've thought about a dice system that kinda works like poker hands. Rolling 5d13, opposed rolls, best 'hand' wins.

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>>1114089
>opposed rolls

>>1114093
I completely understand the hate on opposed rolls (normally I loathe them), but I think it'd be worth it if the successes were displayed well enough. And otherwise it doesn't feel 'poker' enough.

>>1114089
That's still as random as just rolling a d6 for success/failure. It just takes longer.

>>1114101
I'd prefer something like flavoring the choices after poker terms.

Fold: Tactical retreat.
Draw: Reposition or try to improve the situation.
Hold: Stay the course.
Raise: Increase the stakes, high-risk high-reward.
Call: Settle things as they stand.

>>1114117
Hmmmmm.

>>1113946
I'd say write the history of your supernatural guys and see how it goes, and then you'll see what celebrities you can write into it without changing much. Choose those whom one wouldn't instantly expect to see and those whose ties with the magical conspiracy actually makes sense, maybe even explaining something about them.

>>1107678
>>Player Question:
>What quests do you miss?

Bandit Lord quest was nice

>>1114077
>creating a fictional celebrity that is obviously a shameless rip-off of a real one, like a Not!Elvis, or a 40Pence
I think this is even worse than just saying that Elvis was a gnome.

>>1113886
I want to believe, anon, but I last sawhim comment on Fractured Sky quest.

Last september.

>>1114120
If it's a western, you could have a metaphorical six-shooter with six bullets that act like Fate Points.

Does anyone else get really excited over the idea running a quest, but then end up wanting to hang yourself when you actually start it? How do you channel that excitement during the actual quest?

>>1114212
Mostly I think of what I'm doing after the current arc. Every arc.

>>1114212
I just don't run the quest cause I always take a step back and realize I don't have the time to be a reliable QM and flaking is something I'd never want to do.

>>1114012
Do you actually have to deliver on the smut, or can you string them along all day?

>>1114212
Too fucking real

>>1114226
If you don't deliver readers will probably just migrate to the 100 other smutquests that do.

Modern Necromancy Quest: Redux is up and running!
>>1114257
>>1114257
>>1114257
Come help Liz Shepherd as she negotiates with murderous goetic owl-demons in museum basements!

>>1114226
If you're promising smut, you should deliver. Be a man of your word. If you don't want to write smut, make it clear.

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>>1112841

>>1114141
>>1114141
....what? Broken sky has run several times since then

>>1113807
Chryssa

>>1114226
I like stringing them along and I'm also prone to making terrible decisions so I just write non-canon smut

>>1114077
Yeah, that's part of it. Another part is like...

If I say that Harry Houdini was an actual wizard, it's very difficult for his achievements, in the context, to not feel cheapened (his escapes), sinister (his lifelong campaign to disprove the supernatural), or like they have been stolen from humanity. And that in itself is not bad, I very much want to explore some of those ideas from within the planned Quest because those are feelings people /in the setting/ might have about it.

But I also don't want to just slap that button with my face over and over again. In some cases it should be because being magic doesn't influence those achievements, but it's also because one of the running themes is that humans make these great strides on their own, without having to "cheat".

>>1114422
Well, why not have magic just be another part of skill but subtle? Maybe plenty of people are magic, but not everyone uses it enough to get famous or usefully proficient.

Or maybe magic people can naturally gravitate towards being famous as a test of their innate capabilities.
Like writers trying quests out for active feedback.

>>1114299
I meant since the last time I saw activity from Diarca

how do i get people interested in a revival quest that is a continuation of where I left off on the last quest?

>>1115098
first, tell us which quest?

Test

>>1115105
>>1113672

>>1115110
oh.
Can't say I'm too hooked on whatever that is.

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>>1113807
>best waifu
Fuck that, who's the strongest waifu?

>>1113983
Anonkun is like 4chan, with the ability to organize your information without needing a pastebin. The people there are pretty much the same as here, don't let the naysayers fool you.

Unfortunately, Anonkun also breaks more often, and isn't very mobile friendly, which is why I haven't tried running a quest there.

>>1113807
Stella

>>1113983
As someone that hates Akun's playerbase with a fucking burning passion I'd still say it's a better place than /qst/ as long as you can get over the UI, and that's something that there's CSS fixes to help with.

It's especially something that I would consider better for new QMs simply because it is possible to pick up an actual playerbase and there's the ease of discoverability that Live sessions help with since they make it fairly easy for someone to just look at what's currently running and see something that catches their interest instead of sifting through the many (in my opinion) terrible quests filling /qst/'s catalogue.

But all in all, I hate both and sometimes wonder why I still read quests when I clearly hate pretty much everything involved in them, so take my words with a grain of salt.

>>1115098
Patience, brother. I too have only 2-3 players but it's still fun to QM

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>>1115294
Yeah, same here. I don't even know why I keep coming here.

The same petty bullshit from /tg/ still goes on, like I took a peak at the last thread before it died and it has people still perpetuating the "durr /u/boat" stereotype when I haven't seen a notable quest that has yuri or is yuri centric for over a year that's not by XS. Then there's an endless fucking argument in QTG because there are two QMs that can't let shit that used to happen over 3 years ago be. "S-some ebul /u/boaters voted for yuri when I didn't want it and now i dropped the quest boohoo" fuck off faggot.

The thing about female protagonists too is really idiotic. People are still letting players choose and players still get autistically salty if they don't get a male protagonist or a female or a futa one. I thought we were over this shit from 2014 but I guess not. Holy fuck who cares about the genitals.

The quest concepts are all the same shit: some stupid neet quest. isekai shit, naruto/bleach/one piece/DBZ fanfiction quests, "you're a lich/necromancer/overlord whut do? XD", academy quests that go no where, super hero quests that go no where.

The same player complaints always popping up, "why does the protagonist have to face adversity in any way? Can't we just steamroll all obstacles and have a harem end?" The terrible shit are also the fucking QMs, they put at the end of the thread "if you have any criticism then post!" and then when you put in some criticism it's basically "oh no not that kind of criticism, post things that stroke my cock"

The questing community on 4chan as we know it never really turned to shit. The odd quests on /tg/ here and there were viewed by everyone that would drop in and out. The "community" that formed after has always been a heaping pile of excrement. And we were lucky to have the one or two QMs that actually wrote good stuff and didn't let DRAMA stink up their threads.

With the current climate, shit is abysmal. Have fun writing a naruto quest or a generic lich quest, because that's all the shit people want to participate in.

>>1113949
Could you stop shitposting in the general and concentrate on your quest like a good little QM then?

>>1115388
I literally ran an entire quest today you faggot

>>1115395
Get working on the next one then.

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>>1115404
A hot blooded captain . Damn that voice is second to Morgan Freeman

>>1115378
>Have fun writing a naruto quest or a generic lich quest, because that's all the shit people want to participate in.

Is there anything you'd like to direct attention towards?

>it's another anons are a bunch of thirsty niggers episode

Why do you even allow this QMs

>>1115378
>I haven't seen a notable quest that has yuri or is yuri centric for over a year that's not by XS.

There's yuri in Evil Sorceress.

There's yuri in Dungeon Life.

There's yuri in that one MercCommand quest: Pacific Strike.

All three of those quests are on this board right now, as is Ryukuza Quest by XS and The Raiders runs all the time.

That is five quests where the female MC happens to fuck women.

Now if you remove every quest on this board with a male MC who obviously can't be a lesbian, how many female MC quests are there with female characters who don't fuck women?

5?

10?

Long story short, stop being a nigger.

>>1115476
Trick, stop projecting your yuri fetishes here

>>1115476
>There's yuri in Evil Sorceress.
>There's yuri in Dungeon Life.
Is there?

>how many female MC quests are there with female characters who don't fuck women?
A lot more, apparently.

>>1115483

Yurifags need to know their fucking place. Pretending or being so falsely informed as to think there is some dearth of lesbian activity in the questing scene even as the entire questing community is dying of the holocaust is the most ignorant opinion I've ever witnessed.

And those are the only five I know about, mind you.

Is Secret Princess Zelda Quest about a dyke?

IS GermanSchteel's stupid tank quest about a dyke?

Is that quest by KingofHearts where you play the waifu of his first quest MC (Dom "THE ROD" O'Hara) engage in fucking women? I'm pretty sure she was alright with all these women fucking her man so maybe she licks cunt too.

What other shitty dyke quests or half-dyke quests are running when I'm not paying attention?

Probably a fuckton.

>>1115499
>There's yuri in Evil Sorceress.
>There's yuri in Dungeon Life

Both the MCs of those quests are highly bisexual women.

In Evil Sorceress, MC has fucked an alternate reality version of herself, an innocent farm girl, had a threesome with both the previous people I mentioned, has mentioned having sex with multiple women in the past, tried to fuck a trap elf who she thought was a woman. Etc etc with more lesbian shit to come.

Oh and her alternate reality version of herself engaging in lesbian BDSM with a female paladin. And there's going to be a smutbin focusing on that sexual encounter.

And that's one quest where all that shit happened.

In fucking Dungeon Life, the MC married a half-harpy with metallic wings named the dumbest shit ever and not Crescendo and I'm salty as fuck about it.

>A lot more, apparently.

So here are the ones I know about that are still running.

Tuffle Quest (Fucking goku, monogamous)

Shinobi Quest (Straight but probably fucking nobody ATM)

Melancholic Quest (Straight, appeals to pedophiles but at least its straight pedophilia I guess)

I just looked through the archive and there's some quest where you play as some maiden who was captured by a dark lord so I assume the MC of that quest will be straight and repeatedly violated. Who fucking knows though.

Now I've seen about 5 or 6 at the most more quests runnning with female characters as MC but I can't be assed to check them out beyond a cursory glance and a few are just fucking starting up like that "Dark Lord's Concubine Quest" I mentioned.

Long story short yurifags have it nice, despite the fact that 99.99 percent of you are straight men who are so low fucking test you masturbate to handholding.

I grew out of lesbian porn when I was 15 and on the occasions I partake in it I keep it to fucking porn and not my online fantasy stories where I would like to just shoot a gun and have a boyfriend, thank you.

Harem fags should also be shot and left in a ditch to rot.

That is all, thank you.

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>>1115514
Preach amigo.

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>>1115514
>posts a bunch of bisexual female MCs
>says yurifags have it nice

>>1115539
>WAAAAAAAAAH ITS NOT REAL LESBIANISM IF THEY'RE NOT GOLD STAR! IF THEY EVEN TOUCH A DICK THEY'RE INFECTED!

Stop lying.

You're probably a straight man just based on statistics. And even if you aren't the majority of you yurifags are straight men.

You aren't actual lesbians.

You're men who find two women going at it sexually stimulating.

You do not give a shit if a woman also fucks dicks as long as in the moment there is a scene of her performing sexual intercourse with another woman.

You are attracted to sexual acts you find pleasurable, not characters who are authentically lesbian.

Even on the off chance I am wrong about you personally, I am not wrong about your group as a whole.

why do we even have to have smut

>>1115579
is like spices, it add more spice to some like spicy spices

>>1115582
but there is so much to jack off to already out there, it's nonsense

Thirsty cunts should just go play a dating sim

>>1115548
And now you seem to be under the impression that all fiction featuring lesbians exists only to sexually gratify the reader/viewer, which combined to you also being under the impression that there are a lot of Quests featuring lesbian MCs really makes me think you are merely shitposting.

Points for trying to poison the well, though. You don't see that fallacy that often nowadays. Minus points for the incorrect (on purpose, most likely) statements about a demographic.

Why don't we just go through all the quests and tally it all up? With 3 or 4 people looking through everything it shouldn't take too long. See the actual ratio of yuri to bit to straight, plain and out in the open.

>>1115586
>all fiction featuring lesbians exists only to sexually gratify the reader/viewer,

Au contraire there mon ami, I'm not saying all fiction.

No there are plenty of lesbian characters I'm sure are alright and fine and dandy and aren't designed to sexually gratify the reader/viewer.

I'm saying the fiction your group generally is asking for is almost entirely fueled by your sexual fetish.

It's like footfags or furries trying to imply their "thing" doesn't stem from a need for obscure sexual gratification.

Yes, it does.

>>1110531
>tried to kill one of her lovers
>lovers, as in plural
The only way I'd be remotely interested in anything else you have to say about your trashy sounding quest is if it's about a degenerate, morally bankrupt cunt of a mob boss surrounded by her collection of man meat who'd watch the world burn over someone touching one of her boys just to probe a point about vandalizing her collection. Male harems and self-aware terrible people are fucking top, m8.

But since this is /qst/ I know it's some sort of KAWAII UGUU yuri faggotry where the MC is an awful person but the narrative (and all the characters) talk about how great she is because LESBIANS TEEHEE

>>1115593
>I'm saying the fiction your group generally is asking for is almost entirely fueled by your sexual fetish.
You'd be wrong.

Foot and furry fetishes are exactly that, fetishes. People asking for those are sure to do so to wank, and that's it.
Yuri, however, is an entire genre (and, despite your misinformed rants, a genre rarely seen in quests), with themes, characteristics and ways to approach them. Saying people want it just because it's a fetish is like saying people want sci-fi or fantasy just because they have a fetish for spaceships or swords and armor.

>>1115626
>Yuri, however, is an entire genre (and, despite your misinformed rants, a genre rarely seen in quests), with themes, characteristics and ways to approach them. Saying people want it just because it's a fetish is like saying people want sci-fi or fantasy just because they have a fetish for spaceships or swords and armor.

>Lesbians are a genre.

And people are gonna say I'm the one shitposting.

>>1115626
>furry fetishes are exactly that, fetishes.

You'd be wrong.

Furry is an entire genre (and, despite your misinformed rants, a genre rarely seen in quests), with themes, characteristics and ways to approach them. Saying people want it just because it's a fetish is like saying people want sci-fi or fantasy just because they have a fetish for spaceships or swords and armor.

>>1115476
Don't forget like half or more of Akun and literally any quest Schteel makes, whether he admits to it or not

>>1115539
>addtext.com

>>1115628
"Yuri" is a weird term. It's not 1:1 interchangeable with "lesbians" because there's a whole range of connotations in the language it's being loaned from that go beyond a question of sexual orientation. It's about the drama and the relationship more than the sex, often to the exclusion of the sex entirely.

>>1115626
Isn't entirely right, although he does have a point. But you're always going to be a shitposting dramafag, Trick.

>>1115626
>Yuri, however, is an entire genre
So is furry.

>>1115659

But you can say the same thing about "yaoi" transcending the sex entirely and yet, somehow, on this site there are rarely any yaoi quests. Much less so than yuri quests.

Why do you believe that is so?

Yuri is a fetish genre.

>>1115626
>Saying people want it just because it's a fetish is like saying people want sci-fi or fantasy just because they have a fetish for spaceships or swords and armor.
See, the problem with this statement is that I DO in fact have a massive raging boner for well designed spaceships.

That folder probably sees more use than any porn folder I can think of.

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>>1115666
>I DO in fact have a massive raging boner for well designed spaceships
My nigga. How do you feel about vintage sci-fi art?

YURI IS LOVE YURI IS LIFE

>>1115664
>Yuri is a fetish genre.
what a controversial statement

>>1115642
>half of akun
>implying

>literally any quest Schteel makes
Only two of which feature lesbian MCs.

>>1115653
Not my image, m8. I got it from an All Tomorrows thread on /tg/ and and haven't bothered fixing it yet.

>>1115666
>I DO in fact have a massive raging boner for well designed spaceships.
You too?

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>>1115670
>How do you feel about vintage sci-fi art?
They're my shit

>>1115664
>yaoi quests
Because yaoi is gay. A lot of guys are averse to roleplaying that, and that discomfort has always been a thing in /tg/-related communities. And it does bleed over into quests with female MCs. The male characters often aren't as appealing to players because of that "that'd be gay" in the back of the mind, or else they're not written in an equally appealing way by the QM for a similar reason. And if the players decide they like a female NPC better than any other, the only way to thwart that is to aggressively insist that the character *they* are roleplaying as isn't into that. And even that won't conclusively end the discussion, because all of this depends entirely on the group of players you gather and that randomness is the reason why we're writing quests in the first place. If you're going to totally ignore the players instead of trying to work it into the narrative somehow, even as a failure, then why are you here?

But I know, you're not here to ACTUALLY discuss the reasons why things happen on /qst/. You're just here to bitch about them and cause drama like the little attention whore you've always been. I shouldn't be feeding you, but it's clear that was happening before I got here anyway. So I'll indulge.

>>1115699
>And if the players decide they like a female NPC better than any other, the only way to thwart that is to aggressively insist that the character *they* are roleplaying as isn't into that. And even that won't conclusively end the discussion, because all of this depends entirely on the group of players you gather and that randomness is the reason why we're writing quests in the first place.

Alright now we're talking about three radically different groups of people like they're one group of person.

>Faggot A likes the yuri genre and searches for quests that fit it

>Faggot B wants to jerk it to lesbian sex

>Faggot C doesn't want to be gay and thus decides to romance a female character

So I don't get why you're talking about the yuri genre like that other guy is because obviously the quest Faggot C is playing actually isn't yuri.

It just happens to be about a lesbian but clearly lacks the themes, characterization and distance from the sex/focus on the drama and the relationships that characterize the yuri genre.

>>1115699
>. A lot of guys are averse to roleplaying that
Incidentally, this is why a lot of FeMCs are lesbian or """"bisexuals"""" that exclusively suck cunt: questfags fear the dick

>>1115714
Despite B being rarer than you like to insist, all three categories of player produce the same outcome: a push for a specific kind of romance that the QM has to deal with somehow, either by flat rejection, or by letting it play out. From there it can be the super stereotypical saccharine shit that most people associate with the term, it can be some flavor of yuri that you'd have to ask /u/ to properly qualify, or something else entirely with an MC that just happens to be into another female character.

And it's you that seems to be reducing your "three radically different groups": all into category B, who's just wanking it. Or am I wrong, and have you suddenly developed an ability to grasp subtlety?

>>1115727
And yet, plenty of feMCs are straight. Maybe even the majority of them.

>>1115699
>And if the players decide they like a female NPC better than any other, the only way to thwart that is to aggressively insist that the character *they* are roleplaying as isn't into that. And even that won't conclusively end the discussion, because all of this depends entirely on the group of players you gather and that randomness is the reason why we're writing quests in the first place. If you're going to totally ignore the players instead of trying to work it into the narrative somehow, even as a failure, then why are you here?
So if I go into your quest about scifi adventures or whatever and demand you turn it into a quest about fucking the first male you meet (and every one after that), you're saying that as the QM you are morally obligate to make the quest about that?

Because that's what it sounds like you're saying right now.

>>1115735
Mostly through QM fiat, which is apparently a sin against questing

>>1115730
I think you're misunderstanding me attacking your premise to me suddenly exhibiting your views, but whatever.

Down to brass tacks, men seem to be way more into the yuri genre and women way more into the yaoi genre. I think this is because people want more of what they like and men generally like women and women generally like men. Thus it stems from sexual gratification.

Faggot C is pretty much the same thing as Faggot B in my opinion. Sure, maybe his desire for lesbians fucking is just because of his own denial of his homoerotic tendencies or maybe the idea of something being "too gay" is bad for him but at the end of the day they find lesbians palatable for sexual reasons. If you view het from the female POV as too gay for your dick, then you're clearly putting homo from female POV as more palatable for your dick. It's fetish in nature.

As for Faggot A, he should not enjoy the same quests as Faggot B or C because if yuri is a fucking genre than I find it very hard for a Qm to just randomly stumble into writing for that genre just because they made their character a lesbian.

Unless, the only really defining trait of the yuri genre is that the MC is a lesbian. And then the whole "yuri is this super special genre with specific themes" goes out the window because all you need is a woman who licks cunt as MC to be yuri.

With perhaps the only wrench thrown into the mix being bisexual female MCs who fuck women and men. But even then, that's up for debate since there are actual yuri shows where the main woman was bisexual and was interested in men, even if she ultimately ends up with a woman so your yuri genre is so malleable that the only identifiable, unmutable linchpin of the genre is a woman who is interested in fucking women and then Faggot A just molds back into faggots B and C.

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>>1115666
I know this feeling. You're not alone.

>tfw the only other GM in my game group hates sci-fi.

>>1115737
What I said was that a QM should never flatly ignore what their players, that's "players" in the aggregate sense and not a lone faggot, decide they want to try and do. Even if that means shutting it down for some reason, or writing it in as a failure.

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>>1115666
Trips confirm the nobility of your cause, even if my personal fetish is for WW2 Armoured Cars

>>1115741
Cut the pseudo-psychoanalytical bullshit, Trick. You don't have the finesse.

Yuri in anime/manga is mostly about the drama more than, or even to the exclusion of, the sex. Which makes sense, because if there was no drama there'd often be no story, and if there's no story you might as well just be doing hentai for a living. Players latch onto it for a variety of reasons that can't purely be boiled down to "fetish": some might actually like that kind of drama, some might legitimately not like the idea of roleplaying a relationship with a male character, some might just like the female NPC and want to see them take a larger role in the story.

>>1115753

I'll cut out my pseudo-psychoanalytical bullshit once you cut out the fucking context denial, mate.

The word yuri, yurifags and /u/boats have been used in the questing community to refer to lesbian main characters here on this board for a long fucking time now and you butting in with your "b-b-but in Japan" is fucking horseshit and you fucking know it.

>some might like that kind of drama

You can get that same kind of drama with two men, one woman one man and in fact, I'm sure that drama happens in Dungeon Life Quest even if the main character sometimes has sex with her husband. It's fucking yuri.

>some might legitimately not like the idea of roleplaying a relationship with a male character

It's always a sexual hang-up always. And it's easy as fuck to play as a man and romance a waifu. If your desire is strictly for yuri you're searching for a relationship of two women.

>some might just like the female NPC and want to see them take a larger role in the story

Bullshit. 'The only way for this character to be a larger part is if we rub cunts together' is a dumb as fuck thought. You can easily include a character in a story for a larger amount that doesn't require fucking that character.

You're essentially throwing a lot of shit at me that's bogus purely because you don't like me, which is fine dude, but you're just as much of an attention whore buddy.

>>1115741
>men seem to be way more into the yuri genre
Wrong. 6 out of 10 people that read the most popular yuri magazine in Japan (Yuri Hime) are women.

>maybe his desire for lesbians fucking is just because of his own denial of his homoerotic tendencies
>wants to see girls fucking girls because he's gay
What does that say about the guys playing a het feMC? Perfectly normal right?

>>1115754
>The word yuri, yurifags and /u/boats have been used in the questing community to refer to lesbian main characters here on this board for a long fucking time now and you butting in with your "b-b-but in Japan" is fucking horseshit and you fucking know it.
It's high time you knew what it actually meant.

>You can get that same kind of drama with two men, one woman one man
And you'd get different genres.

>And it's easy as fuck to play as a man and romance a waifu
Would it be entertaining, though? Wouldn't that be a sexual hangup too?

>You can easily include a character in a story for a larger amount that doesn't require fucking that character.
How dense can you be to not understand yuri is not about the sex, or the porn? If it has sex it has it, just like literally everything under the sun. It can, and does, exist without the sexual element.

Anyone of yall fags remember shadow quest? it was the shit

>>1115762

>What does that say about the guys playing a het feMC? Perfectly normal right?
Sure? I'm tired and I don't get what you're trying to imply here.

>It's high time you knew what it actually meant.

Words mean what they mean to the community that uses them. Anime quest does not actually mean a quest that's an anime. Y'know words adapt and change.

>And you'd get different genres.
Why?

>Would it be entertaining, though? Wouldn't that be a sexual hangup too?
Maybe it would be entertaining? Why would it be a sexual hangup?

>How dense can you be to not understand yuri is not about the sex, or the porn? If it has sex it has it, just like literally everything under the sun. It can, and does, exist without the sexual element.
Alright man, then I want you to explain something to me, since you were the guy I was originally talking to.

In Dungeon Life Quest, the main character is married to two people. One is a man and the other is a woman.

The main character has sex with this woman. She has an emotional relationship with this woman. She has drama with this woman.

How is Dungeon Life Quest not yuri?

Please explain what makes it not yuri.

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>>1115770
>I don't get what you're trying to imply here.
According to you, men playing women wanting to fuck women is gay, but men playing women wanting to fuck men is not.

>How is Dungeon Life Quest not yuri?
You answered your own question.
>the main character is married to two people. One is a man

>>1115785

>According to you, men playing women wanting to fuck women is gay, but men playing women wanting to fuck men is not.

There's a reason I used the word maybe. I think you misinterpreted what I said but honestly I don't give a shit about that, let's move on to the real meat of this.


How does the main character also having a husband delegitimize the romantic relationship between her and her wife?

May I also remind you that there are lesbian manga and anime where either the main character or the love interest are married to men.

>>1115787
>lesbian manga and anime

Sorry, mistype. Yuri manga and anime where either the main character or the love interest are married to men

>>1115787
>How does the main character also having a husband delegitimize the romantic relationship between her and her wife?
It doesn't. It doesn't make Dungeon Life Quest yuri either. Lots of things have yuri but aren't.
It's like saying a glass of beer is 'still beer' after someone poured water on it.

>yuri manga and anime where either the main character or the love interest are married to men
Kuzu no Honkai is not yuri. It merely has a lesbian.
Netsuzou Trap is borderline, and biased towards the yuri by making the straight relationship abusive and manipulative. If you tried to make it a quest here players would stick to the obviously abusive relationship with a guy over the actual romantic relationship with a girl.
Citrus had its male 'love interest' quickly removed after he assaulted one of the feMCs.

Anything else? Do keep in mind that things can have lesbians and not be yuri, much like things can fly and not be a bird.

>>1115828

Hmmm, alright.

You read the fictionalized story of a woman's life.

In the first arc she is in a relationship with a man.

In the second arc she is in a relationship with a woman.

In the third arc she is in a relationship with a man.

Then she dies.

Was this story yuri?

Now, for added bonus, let's say that each arc I laid out was in fact a separate book. Is Arc 2, as a stand alone book, a yuri book, even if the series overall would not qualify as a yuri series?

>>1115834
>Was this story yuri?
No.

>Is Arc 2, as a stand alone book, a yuri book
Depends.
If Arc 2 is a perfectly self-contained story that is completely unrelated to the others, then yes.
Otherwise, meaning that Arc 2 is a direct sequel to Arc 1 and a direct prequel to Arc 3 and all three are critical to get the whole story, then no.

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>>1115625
You actually have half of that correct. They just happen to be women instead of men. She IS a mob boss and she will burn the world for them.

If anything she's not nearly morally bankrupt enough to do the jobs she's supposed to be doing.

>>1115834
Depends on presentation. The manga you are talking about is yuri, because the MC's relationships are explored through the vehicle of her relationship with another women, even when the MC is actually involved with men.

I cant make a thread.
Everytime I try is results in "upload failed".
What do?

>>1115664
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>>1115378
Here

Thanks for proving me right you fucking faggot

>>1115625
Stop phoneposting trick

there's a technical term 'yuri' and a colloquial term 'yuri'. trick is using the latter, which is correct, because he's discussing quests in 'popular' terms, rather than critical ones.

the anon quibbling with him about "squares and rectangles are as to yuri and lesbian fiction" is a sophist who's either shitposting or otherwise misdirecting him.

nonetheless trick is a retard whose argument is ultimately inconclusive because despite the showable tendencies of quests towards whichever sexual orientation is aimed at a vagina, the intent of voters is impossible to show and epistemologically any guesses about the reasons behind that known preference are conjecture at best

I mean, I agree with the retard, but he's still a retard

>>1116027
also this. everyone is dumber for having read and responded to this strain of conversation, including me. especially me

>>1115443
Usually I try to find something that interests me but it gets lost in the catalog because there's 30 other saging quests that can't be deleted off the board when archived and finished with.

I tried using the archives as a way to locate new quests but I guess some people don't like using the sup/tg/ one so I'm stuck browsing through naruto quest, star wars quest, dbz quest, naruto quest, lich quest, etc to find something that's actually interesting. Which also has me stuck using one of the moe archive clones that popped up as well.

I was around when /tg/ was the main hub and in comparison, while it was still difficult to find some quests that pop up on the board(especially if they neglected to put quest in the title) it was because they were fewer in frequency. Maybe like 10 quest threads a day and at the most, 20 on the weekends. It was a lot easier to sort through the shit to find gold.

It doesn't help that most of the decent and good QMs stopped running when we made it to /qst/. Hexer, Crusty, Diarca, Languid...all gone.

>>1116049
Hexer stopped running long before /qst/ was made.

>>1116056
Checked his twitter, he disappeared after /qst/

https://twitter.com/ConvictCyborg/status/731748228316696576

>>1115443
yeah, or add a unique element that attracts people

>>1116049
At least Quest Drone ran one thread on /qst/. It nearly killed him IRL but he ran...

I'm reading shit I wrote a few weeks ago, and I'm horrified that I typed any of it, even more so that some people didn't immediately drop it.

>>1115745
>a QM should never flatly ignore what their players, that's "players" in the aggregate sense and not a lone faggot
So if MULTIPLE faggots just want to turn your fantasy quest into Boipussy Breaker Quest, then it's okay?

>>1116099
Questing is a continual struggle to realize how shit your previous posts were and salvaging what little quality exists with the next post.

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>>1116099
Nigga be happy you can't read shit you typed four years ago.

>>1115762
>And you'd get different genres.
Horseshit. A romantic comedy about people from two different socioeconomic classes isn't a magically different genre from a romantic comedy about people in the same socioeconomic class. The sources of drama might change, but the genre won't unless you're a filthy pedant.

Same goes for gender.

>>1115769
Yes I remember Aged Up Loli Waifu on Railroads Quest.

It was garbage.
Never forget the MC you play the whole quest as dies and gets cucked by his clone

>>1115970
>They just happen to be women instead of men.
Boring.
>If anything she's not nearly morally bankrupt enough to do the jobs she's supposed to be doing.
BORING. And also exactly what I predicted about lesbians getting away with murder.

Yuri is such trash.

>>1116127
Well, she is a murderer, so getting away with it would kind of be a necessity to continue the quest and all.