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So I read this and I'm not sure I got anything out of it. I liked the Third Policeman but this was a little two maximalist for my pea-brain. What would you say should be taken away from this?
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>>9779389
>What would you say should be taken away from this?

a pint of plain is your only man
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>>9779389
Read The Tain, and Buile Suibhne. It'll clear up some of what it's doing. Like how Ulysses is framed on Greek myths but is really about Joyce creaming his trousers, it's one of those for people who love what they're mocking to an extent. Same with the Catullus references.

It should be noted that when genre fiction first started and first started getting a bad name, cowboy stories were the YA equivalent of the day.
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>>9779411
For some reason I got it in my head to familiarize myself with the authors alluded to in If On a Winter's Night a Traveler. Otherwise I never would have attempted to read something like this. Ulysses is way beyond my depth.

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NEW MEME

https://www.kcrw.com/news-culture/shows/bookworm
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>>9779381
buy a banner faggot
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>>9779381
>A man with amnesia and $20 million, a well-read venture capitalist adrift after a hot deal, and two drug lord gunmen combine to perform a time-twisting minuet in this big, brainy, trippy, Technicolor noir of a debut.

>Take Thomas Pynchon and David Foster Wallace at their densest, some Malcolm Lowry–esque south-of-the-border malevolence and lots of technobabble, financial arcana, and myriad ad hoc drivel sessions—that may start to suggest what Gauer is up to here. The core story is simple, but he breaks it up and reassembles it with two narrative voices, assorted time jumps, a cool shift in point of view, and a compulsion to spin out every basic element across dozens of pages while exploring the outré entries of the English lexicon. It begins with a man waking up in a Guanajuato, Mexico, hotel. He has a bump on his head and no memory of his identity. His wallet tells him he bears the same name as a pseudonym of the early-20th-century Portuguese poet Fernando Pessoa (Gauer is a poet and, not incidentally, a venture capitalist). A local banker tells him he has almost $20 million in his account. When the narrative—covering the week of April 13 to 20 in 2009—shifts to the gunmen, they are assigned by their Shakespeare-quoting boss (“Guy’s like two-thirds Money, one-third Thesaurus”) to comb through El Paso and Juarez for a guy who has a lot of the boss’s money, part of a laundering operation that also somehow entails the VC’s latest hot and dubious deal. It’s only when the VC flies to El Paso and embarks on a phantasmagoric road trip south that key players and plot points begin to coalesce. The closing pages include one horrific scene that unfortunately is later replayed and an epic Mexican standoff that more or less starts with a man citing Ovid, Schopenhauer, and Heidegger within six lines.

>There’s a lot of verbal and postmodern high jinks in these 700-plus pages, and they will likely strain anyone’s patience and commitment, but for readers who enjoy this kind of thing, it will be worth the effort.
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>>9779381
Literature is still alive friends

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"Do I contradict myself? Very well, I contradict myself. I am large and contain multitudes."
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>>9779330
SJWs, ladies and gentlemen, let's give 'em a hand.
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>>9779330
Only a small mind would not appreciate The Book of Disquiet; i.e. one who is small and contains singularities
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>>9779339
post the part where she says that rampant homosexuality is the attribute of a civilization at its peak because male essence is completely dominant or whatever, shit was insightful, all these ppl saying homopower is decadent don't get it

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How chilling is this? Do you understand what he says?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXm5hklbBsA
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I don't listen to anti-Stalinists
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>he blinked when he said "don't let it happen"

what did he mean by that
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>>9779316
He knew there was no stopping it

There is a documentary about him on a two hour interview in perfect quality, his discussion was terrifying to see since he is talking about these things in a much much younger time

We are in 2017 already, people like him who saw it coming would have nothing to say except they have seen this before, they knew what was coming one day

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Would the New Yorker (and other publications like it) reject a short story out of hand due to its explicit deviation from a Progressive agenda? Also, are there any decent literary magazines that are inclined towards traditionalism/conservatism?
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They'll reject it because it isn't written by a Jew from Yale, not because it's not progressive.
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>>9779282
Just be subtle and civilized, OP. And it's not like you could publish and get success in a conservative press because conservatives don't read
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You know what we need? That is, writers here on /lit/? You know what we need? We need an inside man. We need somebody who posts here who also works at an editorial position at a major magazine, and who can therefore get /lit/'s talented writers snuck into publication and integrated into mainstream literature. We need somebody who will be to /lit/'s writers what Pound was to Joyce, Eliot, and Hemingway.

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What was the first "adult" book you read (as opposed to a children's book) that you read as a kid, and how old were you when you read it?
I read pic related when I was nine or ten years old, I don't remember exactly when.
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When I was in seventh grade I started reading all of Tom Clancy's books, since they were readily available at my middle school's library and nobody seemed to mind the idea of an 11-year-old reading them. Sex, blood, guns, and a lot of cursing. It was a blast. Plus I learned everything I'll ever need to know about the way Russians think.
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>>9779270
I read "Prey" when I was about 14 years old. It scared me shitless.
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>>9779270
Da Vinci Code in grade 6. I actually liked it a lot.

Reading Synchronicity and I have to say Jung is an absolute madman. This is stuff that should be relegated to /x/ and other fringe communities, not the basis of a modern discipline concerned with the treatment of people's minds.
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>>9779088
Well, that's why colleges look at peoples' writing AND math/science skills. No self-respecting intellectual is only good at one while shunning the other.
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>>9779100
What does that have to do with anything. Even if your IQ is 150 you can still believe in spooky shit. Pic related.
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>>9779117
Surely you're not saying that a firm grasp on math and the natural sciences does NOTHING to protect against belief in pseudoscience or shoddy theories. I'm not saying scientists with a rigorous technical and mathematical background are immune to this, just that it has a protective effect.

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see title
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see pic
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Madame Bovary. Lolita.
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>>9779082
read these

How do you organize your bookshelves, if you even organize them?
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Fiction alphabetical, non-fiction divided by category and then either alphabetical or chronological by topic, depending on subject.
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i make your mom do it
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I arrange my books according to the author's dick size.

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What if i publish on amazon under a pseudonym? Then when it fails no one will be able to trace that failure to me and conventional publishers will still be available as an option to me.

Please give me your insight.
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if it's going to fail why are you doing it?
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>>9779028
because of the 10 or so people who will read it, makes me happy. But i still want to try publishing normally, is just that that will take way more time.
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>>9779028
>experience can only be gained by success
Are you retarded? Not defending OP, but your point seems contradictory.

Was it really coincidence / physical debilitation that caused Nietzsche's madness?
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How does one overcome the tendencies underlying slave morality?

Following my academic failure, I find myself increasingly disdaining the academic fixtures of research and medicine I once aspired to find myself in.
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>>9778983
Yeah, I heard he hit him in the back of the head with a cudgel.

Fuckin' Coincidence, man, that guy was out of control. Fun to drink with, though.
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Ah, Nietzsche. I got some of his books.

Never had the time to return them to him. He passed away before i could.

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For a young man in the 21st century, J.K. Rowling embodies just about everything that he hates about his own mother, but can't outright say to her. An aging neoliberal single mother with an inflated sense of self-importance using twitter to cope with her increasing irrelevance. The sort of woman who hasn't seriously thought about any of her opinions, but feels the need to push them on to others and condescend to anybody who might think differently.

She is an archetype. Neither insightful nor funny nor controversial. She is a consummate mediocrity basking in the praise of similar mediocrities the world over who have projected their own aspirations on to her, satisfied that somebody like them is a billionaire. Her Christianity is an accessory. She takes everything that she's been taught by public school and daytime television and fashions a god out of it.

She conceives of public affairs in the nebulous terms of "love" and "hate". The fact that an action might fall outside of either of these two categories, or that something she deems "hateful" might in fact be the wiser choice has not occurred to her. Despite this, she is shockingly easy to bait into a bitter, spiteful rage. Furthermore, her generosity only extends as far as her personal comfort. At the end of the day, it's little more than virtue signalling and if social opinion undergoes some vast sweeping change then she'll fall in line.

In many ways, she's already missed the boat. Her brand of comfortable feminism has already fallen out of style. She just doesn't know it yet. The second wave man-hating sexual phobia that sees rape everywhere. Its frigidity is evident in her writing. Then the bizarre merger with proud slut queer positivity. The post-hoc declarations of characters' sexual proclivities. The rationalization of racial retconning. It's like she discovered a Harry Potter fan tumblr, followed a couple links, and incorporated whatever she saw, resulting in an incoherent schizophrenic worldview. That's probably exactly what happened.

Her name is fucking Joanne. Need I say more?
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And one more thing. She has a surprisingly nice pair of tits that I'd really like to suck on.

She looks a lot like my own mother, but with nicer hair and way nicer tits. In fact, she's basically a more attractive version of my mother, which is great since the only thing that really held me back from fantasizing about my own mother is that she just wasn't good looking enough.

Rowling really seems like the kind of woman who'd suck her teenage son's dick. I mean it.

She gets back from le ebin GIRLS NIGHT OUT XD!!! Plastered out of her mind from sipping too much shiraz or perhaps pinot grigio. Maybe she and THE GIRLS even passed around a blunt at Samantha's house. I always find it funny when Gen X women think they're being SO BAD smoking weed. Mouth full of the most expensive cheese available at Tesco and whatever crackers Georgia had to get rid of. She's cackling with laughter and sobbing as she lurches in through the front door. She has zero self-awareness when it comes to her emotions, but defends them with religious fervor.

Clumsily, she makes her way toward the living room where her son is playing video games. She sits down on his lap, suffocating him with her embrace and exhaling the stinking fumes of cheap wine right into his face. For a couple minutes, she rants about what a BITCH Leslie at the office is, before muttering the he's the only on who understands her. Briefly, she looks into his eyes, trembling all over. Then she locks her mouth with his and begins to kiss him passionately. At first he is paralyzed, but his mom is kind of hot and he'll probably never have another chance like this. He's thought about it before. He kisses back and before long she's between his legs, pawing at his penis like the cats she collects. She takes it in her mouth and sucks it like she's back in college. She's STILL GOT IT.

The next morning, she pretends not to remember anything, but blames him for the incident, finding subtle ways to punish him.
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Good Lord, anon
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I would insult you for this post JK, but it's actually the best thing you've ever written by far.

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>tfw you bought the meme cover
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>>9778887
You are like a little snob, WATCH THIS
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>buying a public domain text
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>>9778892

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what is wrong with the 'everything is subjective' line of thought?
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at some point, if you want to have a society, then you got to agree on what's acceptable.
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>>9778864
There's nothing wrong with it exactly, but even if we understand that everything is subjective, we still can't step outside our subjective perspectives. Even when building your beliefs around this subjectivity, say, by being accepting of different cultures and religions, your perspective remains subjective. There doesn't appear to be any way to create a universal belief system, so there's no solution to this dilemma. At some point you have to throw your hands up in the air and say fuck it, my way is the right way, let's duke it out to see who wins.
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everything is subjective is an objective statement or somehting

check and mate

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How did we get to the stage where a Stanford Philisopher gets intellectually manhandled by a cartoonist? What went wrong?
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>>9778860
Filthy, might is right real world business experience.
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>>9778860
Which Stanford philosopher?
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>>9778984
neuroscientist samuel harris

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