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>book contains a sentence in a foreign language without any translation
>doesn't translate properly in Google Translate
This is bullshit. Why does the author assume that anyone will be able to read it?
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In the case of blood meridian the author has the translations on his website
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>>9775970
>not being at least quadrilingual
wew
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>>9775993
I'm monolingual and I'm over 25 so it's too late for me to learn any other language fluently.

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Just started this book /lit/, any of you guys heard of it? Is it good?
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>>9775724
It's very nice. It feels like a cozy couch in front of a warm fire as flakes of powdered sugar stack outside the window.
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>BLOOMSBURY
>BLOOM
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Snake kills dumblidoor

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What went wrong?
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>>9775621
here's a hint.
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>>9775621
Paul is pretty boring.
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Clear points in Children of Dune where Frank is writing about boys on the cusp of adolescence with his cock in hand.

Even clearer points in books 5/6 where he is writing complex BDSM fantasies to include in his books about space.

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Is this worth reading or just a meme? It's fucking massive
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Definitely worth reading, but starts so slow most will give up
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Its (((great))))
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better than Infinite Jest

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Pynchon is grossly overrated
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>>9775286
Why?
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>>9775289
>Why?
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>>9775302

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Ex-Catholic here. Anyone else a heretic? Post your favorite heresy.

>pic related
>"Solovyob brilliantly fuses Gnosticism and Waifuism. 10/10." -- Tolstoy
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Rome is ultimately the mother of all current heresies.
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>>9775252
Get the fuck off my board, you despicable pagan.
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>>9775300
the mother of harlots

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“When a boy discovers that he is more given into introspection and consciousness of self than other boys his age, he easily falls into the error of believing it is because he is more mature than they. This was certainly a mistake in my case. Rather, it was because the other boys had no such need of understanding themselves as I had: they could be their natural selves, whereas I was to play a part, a fact that would require considerable understanding and study. So it was not my maturity but my sense of uneasiness, my uncertainty that was forcing me to gain control over my consciousness. Because such consciousness was simply a steppingstone to aberration and my present thinking was nothing but uncertain and haphazard guesswork.”

This is a bit too close to home.
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why would that be a bad thing though, to be like that? would you really prefer it the other way?
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>>9775021
That's like asking someone who has perfected walking on one leg if they would prefer to have both. Of fucking course. Mishima breaks my heart a lot. More than dazai who was just stuck in self pity.
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>>9775015
Is he talking about being a closeted homosexual?

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I just started reading extensovely only nonfiction stuff and now writing my first book.


Reading legit makes you more intelligent i wish people taught me that earlier
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>>9774981
gonna have to work on that grammar lad
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>>9774981
you like that 8bit theater comic
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>>9774987
Literally the thing keeping me from doing it tbqh

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>American translation of a European novel says "color" instead of "colour" and "initialize" instead of "initialise".
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>frogposter is dumb and smelly scum
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Fucking deal with it m8, and expect more of it. Even now European youths are speaking english like its their first language, and more and more McD's are popping up.
The day of the burger has come.
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>>9774834
Negative.

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Is this a fun read if I want to get into Chinese mythos? On one hand people hail it was a fun and well written classic, but on the other hand, they also make it sound like 75% of it or more is just fox spirits trying to fuck humans for life essence or some shit
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>>9774801
>they also make it sound like 75% of it or more is just fox spirits trying to fuck humans for life essence or some shit
that is kind of hot
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>>9774999
This. OP you had my interest, but now you have my attention.
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>>9774999
>>9775030
you depraved fucks

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Hey /lit/ what translation should I go for? This one seems popular but I heard there's a better one
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>Stanley Lombardo

Rage:
Sing, Goddess, Achilles' rage,
Black and murderous, that cost the Greeks
Incalculable pain, pitched countless souls
Of heroes into Hades' dark,
And left their bodies to rot as feasts
For dogs and birds, as Zeus' will was done.
Begin with the clash between Agamemnon--
The Greek warlord--and godlike Achilles.

>Alexander Pope

Achilles' wrath, to Greece the direful spring
Of woes unnumber'd, heavenly goddess, sing!
That wrath which hurl'd to Pluto's gloomy reign
The souls of mighty chiefs untimely slain;
Whose limbs unburied on the naked shore,
Devouring dogs and hungry vultures tore.
Since great Achilles and Atrides strove,
Such was the sovereign doom, and such the will of Jove!

>Robert Fitzgerald

Anger be now your song, immortal one,
Akhilleus’ anger, doomed and ruinous,
that caused the Akhaians loss on bitter loss
and crowded brave souls into the undergloom,
leaving so many dead men — carrion
for dogs and birds; and the will of Zeus was done.
Begin it when the two men first contending
broke with one another —
the Lord Marshal
Agamémnon, Atreus’ son, and Prince Akhilleus. . . .

>Robert Fagles

Rage — Goddess, sing the rage of Peleus’ son Achilles,
murderous, doomed, that cost the Achaeans countless losses,
hurling down to the House of Death so many sturdy souls,
great fighters’ souls, but made their bodies carrion,
feasts for the dogs and birds,
and the will of Zeus was moving toward its end.
Begin, Muse, when the two first broke and clashed,
Agamemnon lord of men and brilliant Achilles. . . .
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>Richmond Lattimore

Sing, goddess, the anger of Peleus’ son Achilleus
and its devastation, which put pains thousandfold upon the Achaians,
hurled in their multitudes to the house of Hades strong souls
of heroes, but gave their bodies to be the delicate feasting
of dogs, of all birds, and the will of Zeus was accomplished
since that time when first there stood in division of conflict
Atreus’ son the lord of men and brilliant Achilleus. . . .

>Peter Green

Wrath, goddess, sing of Achilles Peleus's son's
calamitous wrath, which hit the Achaians with countless ills—
many the valiant souls it saw off down to Hades,
souls of heroes, their selves left as carrion for dogs
and all birds of prey, and the plan of Zeus was fulfilled—
from the first moment those two men parted in fury,
Atreus's son, king of men, and the godlike Achilles.

>George Chapman

ACHILLES’ baneful wrath resound, O Goddess, that impos’d
Infinite sorrows on the Greeks, and many brave souls los’d
From breasts heroic; sent them far to that invisible cave
That no light comforts; and their limbs to dogs and vultures gave:
To all which Jove’s will gave effect; from whom first strife begun
Betwixt Atrides, king of men, and Thetis’ godlike son.

>Rodney Merrill

Sing now, goddess, the wrath of Achilles the scion of Peleus,
ruinous rage which brought the Achaians uncounted afflictions;
many the powerful souls it sent to the dwelling of Hades,
those of the heroes, and spoil for the dogs it made of the bodies,
plunder for all of the birds, and the purpose of Zeus was accomplished —
sing from the time when first stood hostile, starting the conflict,
Atreus' scion, the lord of the people, and noble Achilles.
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>>9774688
The Iliad for Boys and Girls


https://archive.org/details/iliadforboysand00homegoog

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he is john green.
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He's pretentious, his books aren't good, and he's a cuck
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ITT: Philosophers that remind you of yourself

For me it's Diogenes - intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor.
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>>9773433
All of them in one way or another. Otherwise I wouldn't read their stupid shit.
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>>9773433
Me. I'm philosopher.
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This guy.

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https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jul/16/dangerous-by-milo-yiannopoulos-digested-read-john-crace
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Surprisingly funny compared to Craces normal stuff.
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>>9772457
This person was paid to write this.
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> Is literary criticism part of the canon?
no

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I just finished a graduate program in English, and while I think the experience was worthwhile, my writing has become horrible, or I've become a lot more self-conscious about my writing.

I used to feel that what I wrote was concise and to the point, but now it is circuitous and over-complicated. Even worse, I don't feel like I can order my thoughts coherently anymore.

I ready way too much Derrida and Walter Benjamin, and I seem to have only picked up the worst attributes of both of them as habits of my own.

What should I do now? It's gotten to the point that it's stressful to even shitpost around here. Should I start reading more novels and less theory again, perhaps writers with concise and simple prose? Are there any good writing practices to help you jump out of obscurantist lit-crit writing mode and back into something coherent?
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>Should I start reading more novels and less theory again, perhaps writers with concise and simple prose? Are there any good writing practices to help you jump out of obscurantist lit-crit writing mode and back into something coherent?

plz answer if you're truly /lit/
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>>9771220
>I read way too much Derrida and Walter Benjamin
So you gave the academic system jews have destroyed tens of thousands of dollars so you could read the writing of jews pretending to be western philosophers, and now you're surprised everything you write is jewish gobbledygook? Serves you right.

Seriously though, I wasted plenty of time pretending to "get" that hebraic nonsense in my younger years before I understood the jewish problem. You'll get over it.
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>>9771273
>Was into Baudrillard last week.
>Is into Kevin MacDonald this week.
>Will be into Jordan Peterson next week.

10/10, m8, please just kill me now.

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