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Someone convince me on learning a dead language that is Latin. I'm on the verge of learning it, I need a good reason. Any volunteers?
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Worthless thread. Fuck yourself.
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>>9589472
Not a fan of supporting ancient dialect I suppose. That's cool, have a good day
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Studied medical latin. While far from actual latin, I know that latin as a whole is a completely useless waste of time.

would /lit/ make fun of me if I have only ever read the harry potter books?
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>>9589440
nope

you are welcome here, anon :)
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OF COURSE NOT WE LOVE HAIRY POTTER
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Would /lit/ make fun of me if I said I unironically enjoyed Worm?

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Red pill me on philosophy. is it worth my time?

I tried reading the Tao Te Ching but it made no sense to me. Am I not in the right mindset or am I a brainlet?
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daoism is supposed to be confusing, koan-like. you're not actually supposed to even think that much about it.

philosophy is about clear thinking. clear language. start with the greeks.
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>>9589401
no anon, you're well on your way to living i na fudeal monarchy for the next 3000 years :3
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>>9589411
wait, so I'm supposed to just blast threw it without thinking about whats being said? that seems a bit absurd? whats the point of the book then if your supposed to be confused?

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/lit/, I have been desperately searching for the source of a line for months now. I cannot remember who wrote it, but am certain that it was a 20th century author. The line, paraphrased, goes something like this:
>So great was his love for her, it would have torn open his casket had the flower she placed there not been so heavy.

Does anyone recognize this sentiment? It's driving me insane... In the meantime I suppose I'll post a stupid series of images I made with Michelangelo's prisoners in attempt to update John Carpenter's slogans from his adaptation of Ray Nelson's "Eight O'Clock in the Morning."
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>is it any good, and where can I find a publisher if it is?
Will post paragraph, by paragraph, but not the full short story as a precaution.
There was one time a wizened king named Erad. This king had not gained his throne through the near endless cycle of death, birth, and coronation, as was the apparent nature of the world at this time. While Erad, may have fought a war for his right of rule, it was the glint of gold, and not of steel in his honeyed words that set the roaring tides of the huddled masses to moor him in his gilded hall. The king afore, whilst drowned under, still left afloat a stubborn flotsam. Despite what the world thought to be a cleansing tide, neither king new, nor old was unburdened a speck blood, which they both so callously flaunted, and painted on as if ‘twas, but another chore of vanity, likened to the powdering of a wig.
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>>9589256
>op here
Erad whilst worthy by merit, but not of morals, was blessed with three paragons in his court, in which he bestowed the loathsome task to bring aboard, or set bellow the few still adrift retainers of the old lord. The first among them was his most valiant of generals. A man sturdy as oak, and wise as owl whose name was Atlan. The second was his steward, Soro. A gaunt man of many years, and much coin. Soro was a man who’d not brave a walk in the night, but would brave an inferno for a single copper. The final paragon, was Erad’s own daughter Delphine. A young lady with hair as black as the times, skin with a luster to rival Soro’s riches, wit as sharp as Atlan’s blade, and beauty fit to contrast father’s butchery.
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>op
Erad himself, while vile of spirt, was not vile of flesh. A handsome man despite being past his prime. He set himself on a throne of snow white ivory, inlaid with gold, and jewels. His raiment as fine a hue of crimson, as his hands. Whilst promise of replacing the people’s cuffs of iron with bracelets of gold thrust him onto throne, it was not long before the people found, that he’d merely made their chains the weight of gold.
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>op
Erad had four great vices in this world. The first three seemed to embody the nature of his retainers. They were his lust of wealth, lust of blood, and lust of women. While all of which, where the fuel for the fires, of the hell in which he bestowed, his final one was fuel for his own hell. This, the eye in a swirling torrent, of horrors was his desire to always be right. Oh, the depths of depravity Erad would plunge, to convince others of his omniscience, were as mole dwellings next to pits to hell, when contrasted with the depths he would go to convince himself. Erad, who would oft after slaying, a retainer for uttering correct contrastments, would then not even find comfort in his gilded bed, nor harem of maidens. ‘Twas, this very gem of depravity, which led to the demise of his bride, and Queen. Whilst his Atlan, could weather the might of a legion, and his Soro, turn ash into gold, only his Delphine could steady his nerve, with honeyed lies sweet as his own.

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>>9589191
This actually makes me sad. Fuck off
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Yeah fuck you op
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OP needs to go to jail am I right?

What did he mean by this?
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she*
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meme*
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You aren't just you.
All the things that aren't you also make you you.
That's why you're always learning.

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What books should one read and study if one wanted to start a cult??
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The Bible
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the book of enormous cocks
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>>9588963
The Bible

Should we make a Russian lit reading club.
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nyet
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Can we please avoid dostoevsky? there are so many good russian authors and works and these types of groups always get flooded with dostoevsky, who IMO is a secondrate writer

if he is a must at least explore some of his shorter works, but not the godawful notes from underground
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>>9588922
You are a joke

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I 100 % don't care about questions of whether aliens exist, or if God exists, or if their is life after death. But what tortures me every day is the question of what practical philosophy to have with regard to my own life and more specifically actions.

Should I work on what I want or what others deem important? Should I work on something even when I'm bored of it but know it's important? Should I forget all of this and just have fun? But what if I end up a loser because of this? Should I have junk food because it makes me feel good? Or give it up for the obvious reasons? But is self sacrifice just stupid?

It's unreal how much this shit tortures me. I want to spend every moment both relaxing and working hard to stop feeling guilty about letting down my future self.
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>>9588267
Did you know there's a good chance there wont be a future self?
There's no meaning to life you are free to choose your own purpose. Or sit around doing nothing. That leads to depression and low self esteem of course.

Need something to inspire you? Why I say start with the Greeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO1mTELoj6o
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>>9588661
>There's no meaning to life you are free to choose your own purpose.
There is meaning to life and you are not free to choose your own purpose.
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testing testing

Post a plot idea that you think is dumb and others try to make it better
I'll start
>The north struggle fighting against the south in the civil war as the south have mechanic dinosaurs
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>>9588249
i unironically think this is a great idea
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>>9588271
Literally came to me in a dream. It was amazing and I even thought "when I wake up I have to write about this". When I came to I realized it sounded fucking retarded and made this thread. /blog
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>>9588249
>>9588271

i do too, made me think how awesome a civil-war inspired/GoT mashup would be

put the wall right through the middle, have weird monsters and such on either side

chivalrous antebellum knights, mech-altered northern guys

sorry to disappoint you anon this idea is interesting

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Vargas Llosa is the GOAT South American writer.
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I'm sorry that isn't Clarice Lispector.
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>>9588131
Only because he won a Nobel, blah blah blah
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>>9588149
Clarice Lispector may have lived in South America, but she was ethnically and culturally Jewish.

Btw, while I like Vargas Llosa, the great South American writers for me are Jorge Luis Borges and Machado de Assis.

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Helen Vendler.

Best poetry critic alive. Prove me wrong if you can.

a) Writing in a scientific fashion, with almost mathematical precision;

b) Analyzing poems like a coroner or surgeon eviscerating a body: studying and cataloguing every word like organs that compose the whole of an anatomy;

c) Doesn’t get mystical. While she was analyzing Shakespeare’s sonnets she stated that a lot of critics want to see more in the poems then the poems really offer. She states that Shakespeare’s sonnets often offer only a small and un-complex message (love is a maddening fever; time is all destroying; progeny can be a small victory over time, etc.), and that’s not what makes them great – it’s the use of language, and not the thinking of the poet what makes them eternal;

d) Starts a book about Keats with this extremely pratical and realistic view of a poet’s work: “ ‘Whatever I do’, Keats cried in a 1926 letter, ‘poetry will remain a torture.’ Over and over in the intervals he had set aside for writing poems, he complains of the ‘strain’ of writing lyrics, of the ‘exhaustion’ they caused. ‘Creative work always ruins one’s nerves for a time’, he said as early as 1908. Keats best known comment of this sort appears in ‘Adams Curse’, as he asserts that getting a single line right can take hours. In ‘The Circus Animals’ Desertion,’ he claims (and his letters bear it out) that for six weeks he had sought in vain for a theme; he speaks elsewhere of having to wait until his mind ‘fills up’ again, as if he had drained it dry. Even when he could not actually compose verse because of the pressure of other work, he often felt themes running thorough his head; at such times he entered ‘paragraphs’ or ‘sketches’ into a notebook summarizing the theme (and sometimes the internal evolution) of poems to be written up latter in verse form. What tormented him was the putting of his themes (and even the words used in prose sketches) into verse.”;

e)Showed courage when she stated that a Penguin Anthology of modern verse compiled by a black poet was flawed because it was more preoccupied with adding a lot of black, Latino and marginal poets to the collection (regardless of the merit of their poems) than with exposing a lot of facets of critically acclaimed poets (like Wallace Stevens), who were included with only some few scraps of their production.

She takes the cake. If you never read her, just do it now.
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now here's a woman i can admire.
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>showed courage when she stated that a Penguin Anthology of modern verse compiled by a black poet was flawed because

sounds good to me
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INTERVIEWER

How is your study of the Shakespeare sonnets different from others? I gather you do not read with the usual social or cultural or moral agenda.

VENDLER

During the nineteenth century, the study of Shakespeare’s sonnets was governed by a biographical agenda. Later, it was also governed by the “universal wisdom” agenda: the sonnets have been mined for the wisdom of friendship, the wisdom of the acquiescence to time, the wisdom of love. But I’m more interested in them as poems that work. They seem to me to work awfully well (though not everyone thinks so). And each one seems to work differently. Shakespeare was the most easily bored writer that ever lived, and once he had made a sonnet prove out in one way, he began to do something even more ingenious with the next sonnet. It was a kind of task that he set himself: within an invariant form, to do something different—structurally, lexically, rhythmically—in each poem. I thought each one deserved a little commentary of its own, so I’ve written a miniessay on each one of the one hundred and fifty four.

source:

http://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/1324/the-art-of-criticism-no-3-helen-vendler

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>mfw people on here read novel after novel and have read probably ~2 works of poetry in their lives

Enjoy having shit reading & literature comprehension, plebs.
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>>9587922
Poetry is stupid and I don't respect it.

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Do you feel as if reading literature has made more empathetic of a person?

My professor is doing a study on this right now, and I thought it was mildly interesting. I'm curious as to what the monolithic aberration of unfeeling autism that is /lit/ would have to say.
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no
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>>9587891
I'm redpilled now. I hate more than ever. Especially women and minorities. Their simply subhuman
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>>9587891
Depends on what you are reading

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