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>mfw americans are monolingual and read translations of european books
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baguette detected
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>>9593918
>mfw I speak Dutch (mother-tongue), German and French, but still end up reading books in English (or English translations)
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>>9593918
>he doesn't read Дocтoéвcкий in the original Russian

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Hello /lit/,

I am currently devoting a lot of my time to becoming a better writer by reading lots of classics and writing a short story every couple of days. I think that my prose is slowly improving but one thing that is bugging me is that my subject matter always ends up being horribly archaic due to my focus on the great authors past.

Can you recommend any contemporary authors that have good/great prose and yet deal with subject matters that more closely connected to todays world?
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>>9593799
pls halp
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Today's world isn't communicated via literature it is in social media.
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50 shades of gray

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Hey /lit/, how do I know that I'm actually alive? Sometimes I think I may not be.

Any books that will clear this up for me?
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Being and Time
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:) <3
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>>9593593
this. it's a very hard read and it's gonna take you a long time to understand , but it's worth it

I visited David Foster Wallace's house in Claremont, California and I parked my car down the street and looked at the house and cried.
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>>9593519

Me too, man....me too.
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It's good to have a heart.
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>>9593519
>David Foster Wallace got into Amherst College (legacy)
>you got rejected from Amherst College

Ree.

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What does /lit/ think?
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>>9593490
1. A lot of the questions are just leading questions leading to the author's descriptions of the books in question.
2. I believe that it's impossible to predict what you're going to like in fantasy/sf. I love Tolkien, Bester, Lem, Banks, and individual books like Neuromancer. I hate just about all other fantasy I've slogged through. I hate Heinlein and a lot of "classic" sf. Reading a description of a book is not going to help me decide whether to read it.
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>>9593490
Far too anglo-centric
Having a "First contact" question where none of the answers is Lem is painful.
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>>9593538
The bulk of sf is English language

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Explain

the top one is "translated", but why is it so much smaller?
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Abridgement?
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I'm going to assume that the lower one has a wealth of essays and such.
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>>9593416
Most modern editions present an abridged selection of the more representative tales. Even the Norton edition has only a fraction of the whole. It seems that the thiccer copy is not only compleat but is speled inne thee originalle Middle English. Nice cop, OP.

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Hamlet is considered the best work of literature ever written.

Do you agree?
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Considered by who? Hamlet is great but I think there are two or three works I'd personally put above it.
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>>9593366
Like?
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I think it is definitely one of the best in English.

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>English translation of The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle
>read the introduction
>"we cut a few chapters because they didn't make sense and Westerners wouldn't get it lol"
>read English translation of The Sing-Song Girls of Shanghai
>read the introduction
>"we cut out the prologue and the epilogue because they sucked lol"

Why is this allowed?
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Jews?
Niggers?
Globalists?
SJW's?
Nazi's?
Racists?
Sexists?
Bigots?
Marxists?

take you're pick
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you just won't get it
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>American translation of Epictetus' Enchiridion
>All instances of the word 'Zeus' are replaced by 'Jesus'

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>You see, money doesn't exist in the 24th century

Could this ever work?
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>>9593312
Moneyless empires (such as the Incas) have existed, so they can work. The problem in the modern age is that centrally planned economies can't anticipate needs the way a market system can, but by the 24th century, supercomputers may well obviate the need for markets and money by making central planning feasible.

Not that I particularly dislike capitalism. It's better than anything else, but surely something better will eventually take its place.
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>>9593312
It does exist, but is completely irrelevant. They have a sycophantic society. Everyone has replicator rations, but because of vast energy resources those rations allow everyone to live as upper middle class Americans while doing essentially nothing. The people prefer home made stuff anyway so they buy stuff from their friends and neighbors who make it as a hobby when they can. It's bought using Federation credits which they use to replicate the stuff they can't conveniently pick up.....everyone has enough credits to buy what they need to easily live a comfy life (basic universal income?) But there are limits, no one dude has enough to replicate 50 Galaxy class starships for himself for example.

While you don't have to work, some people's dreams require higher education, work experience, you have to build up a resume of volunteer shit to appease others and achieve positions that are beyond a singular individual's resources or begin s career that will earn you the respect of others, which everyone seems to value now, having 'evolved' beyond greed and all that.
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>>9593312
It would work with my perfect, yet unimplemented version of communism.

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How did Wishbone have the time to read voluminous tomes like the Hunchaback of Notre Dame and Don Quixote with the short lifespan of a dog? Even assuming a fairly generous pace of 200 words a minute, reading the Odyssey for example would take him weeks. He would have been dead by the time he finished reading all the books he claimed to have read.

Also, what would Wishbone adaptation of Infinite Jest look like?
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>>9593122
holy shit dude i almost forgot about wishbone,

thanks for reigniting something from my childhood that i didnt even know was real or not anymore
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>>9593122
I read 300 wpm with my pea sized brain, I'm sure he could do 500
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>>9593122
dogs read seven times faster too, doofus. also, wishbone had taste and discernment; he wouldn't bother with your DFW bullshit.

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>Leave /lit/ for over a year
>Come back
>It's exactly the same

I don't know what I expected
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>>9593109
We dont like DFW so much anymore
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there were twelve peterson threads here this morning i shit you not

bet that wasn't happening in june 2016
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>>9593112
Taken from the "books that changed your life" thread on the first page

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Not sure if this is the right board to post this on, but what are your thoughts on the Voynich Manuscript?
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>>9593094
Crazy cool text. Been too lazy to read the (english) introduction to it. Nothing I'm proud of.

Personally, I like to believe it was an account of somebody who went into a different dimension and/or communicated with daimons/jinn/angels/whatever.

Wut u think?
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My guess is that its author is the first and best lit troll ever.
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A beautiful product of mental illness. Like if Henry Darger's work wasn't discovered until centuries later.

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/lit/ I've never been on your board before, but I gotta ask. Have any of you read this book? Anything you can tell about it?
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>>9592925
i've read it, the 2nd one, and part of the 3rd.

interesting world, one character is an insufferable mary sue and one is an old neckbeard. main plotline is a fantasy retelling of the first crusade.

bakker poured a lot of his philosophy into the fictional world, which makes for some interesting stuff. bakker also spends more than enough time with 1) homoeroticism 2) rapey monsters and 3) females as subhuman cumdumpsters.

so overall, worth a read if you like fantasy, but i would not recommend it if you're not into GRI fantasy
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>>9592925
It's garbage
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>>9592925
I've read the first three. They're kind of a fantasy retelling of the first crusade. The most interesting part of it for me was Bakker's take on the blank-slate protagonist, as his protagonist literally has no personality, he's just the figure that drives all the events and that the events hinge on, which is surprisingly effective. In the same way that Bakker 'fantasizes' history, he also 'fantasizes' philosophy, which allows him to incorporate some cool elements into the world, just so long as you're not expecting fully fleshed-out philosophy. It's tone is too serious to be considered 'fun' in the way that Rothfuss might be, but there are still plenty of "that was awesome" moments. Most of the characters are three-dimensional, with the exception of the protagonist (but there's a good reason for that) and the Emperor. Akka (an alternate protagonist) is deeply endearing, and he was the primary character that kept me invested in the books.
What draws you to the book?

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How do I be as creative as whoever made up Hinduism.
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aryans are just more creative, deal with it
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it helps to be an incarnation of the pantheon
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>>9592875
I think that explains why pajeet's so good with computers. even their most ancient mythology is autistic as fuck, filled with obsessive sacrifice procedures and numeric detail that would put ullillillia to shame.

Same goes for jews and kabbalah/torah, the whole rabbinic system ended up breeding a race of mega autists.

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What is Pedophilia's place in high-lit? EG Pynchon and his blackball from the Pulitzer due to domination themes involving young, war-torn/traumatized youth.
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huh. i thought their problem was with the whole replacing-the-rocket's-explosive-charge-with-a-teenaged-boy thing.
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It was the Brigadier Pudding shit eating scene they found objectionable.
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>>9592712
I detected it in IJ; made a thread about it which got nowhere and I'm still reading to see if that theme ever becomes non-covert. Haven't read GR yet but I'm not uninterested. It was also thematic in Burroughs but more pederastic. Anyway i think maybe it is just an attempt at transgression. My idea now is that the only transgressive idea is the one where you unironically defend terrorism. But even that is old news and recent old news at that (see Baader-Meinhoff) what makes edginess so cringe is the naïveté it requires.

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