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Why is it impossible for a Christian 4chan /lit/ poster to like or even just not detest books in the vain of Fight Club or American Psycho.
It's not a question of aesthetics or literary preferences it seems that they just dislike the idea that others are attracted to them because of their rather outsider themes and worldviews they represent.
Does these novels sown together with parchment intimidate your Judeo-Christian sensibilities? We need to talk about this.
Posts deriving from these sentiments are crapping up this already rather messy board. Let's talk.
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I'm Eastern Orthodox and I thought Fight Club was a solid film.
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>>7616714
boy, you have no right talkin about literary aesthetics when you can't even grammar.
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>>7616743
I like the scene where he's confessing and the one listening is Death and not a priest. Incredible movie and that final Danse Macabre is simply perfect.
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>Last chapter's name is also the book's title
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This isn't /v/, fuck off.
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Joyce you hack.
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>>7616347
thats your biggest problem?
>chapter's name fully describes everything that will be in the chapter(even the twists)
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What is the best way for a book to begin? 2016-01-23 15:32:14 Post No.7615864
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What is the best way for a book to begin?
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How to best write the first sentence paragraph, and which book begins the best?
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WELCOME, READER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Personally I like the weather to be established within the first few lines, along with a detailed physical description of the protagonist.
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My book begins the best.
"I got dad’s ashes on my jeans today."
Write what's on your mind
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Sad brown motherfucker
Poor guy. Hope him well
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I love the woman sitting across from me, and I mean to build a life with her.
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>>7617549
My body is sore from all the sledding I've done in the past two days. This is an abnormal weather phenomenon, but at least it makes for great sledding. And people say global warming isn't an issue.
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how old were you when you accepted this was a masterpiece?
i disliked this in grade 8
i hated it in 10th grade
and i acted like I was above it in university
reading it now ... it's an obvious masterpiece
(maybe this is an argument for not teaching great and complex works of literature in highschool? it'll just turn people off them...)
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He's a nonentity to me. Nobody takes him seriously - Sad!
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>>7617336
>i disliked this in grade 8
>i hated it in 10th grade
>and i acted like I was above it in university
>reading it now ... it's an obvious masterpiece
This was literally me but with Catcher in the Rye.
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>>7617336
Sorry I read literature, not dated Slice of Life genre fic
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The 100 Most Frequently Taught Books 2016-01-23 22:06:15 Post No.7617163
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The 100 Most Frequently Taught Books
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>Impressively, the Syllabus Explorer has gathered 1,ooo,ooo+ syllabi published on university websites, then extracted and aggregated the data found in those documents, all for one reason: to determine the mostly frequently-taught books in university classrooms.
http://www.openculture.com/2016/01/the-open-syllabus-project-gathers-1000000-syllabi-from-universities.html
Here’s the top 10 list
1) The Elements of Style, by Strunk and White
2) Republic, Plato
3) The Communist Manifesto, Karl Marx
4) Biology, by Neil Campbell
5) Frankenstein, Mary Shelley
6) Ethics, by Aristotle
7) Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes
8) The Prince, by Niccolò Machiavelli,
9) Oedipus, by Sophocles
10) Hamlet, by William Shakespeare
Full list:
http://explorer.opensyllabusproject.org/
Well, what do you think /lit/?
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>>7617163
That's pretty varied, ideologically speaking.
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>>7617163
>Frankenstein
sign of academics desperation to reach apathetic students
>Leviathan
One of the few works for which a cursory glance on Wikipedia is enough. I think I read it in 8 classes.
>the prince
Is it being taught as satire yet, or is that an unpopular analysis
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>>7617163
>Toni Morrison’s “Beloved” ranks first, at No. 43, followed by William Gibson’s “Neuromancer,” Art Spiegelman’s “Maus,” Ms. Morrison’s “The Bluest Eye,” Sandra Cisneros’s “The House on Mango Street,” Anne Moody’s “Coming of Age in Mississippi,” Leslie Marmon Silko’s “Ceremony” and Alice Walker’s “The Color Purple.”
absolutely disgusting
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how would you approach this woman?
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i wouldn't
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Why would I bother her while she's reading? That's really annoying and would probably make her not like me.
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>>7615960
Different than approaching this woman I assure you.
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Greeks Reading Order - does mine make sense? 2016-01-23 06:07:35 Post No.7614862
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Greeks Reading Order - does mine make sense?
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Got a question on optimal reading order for the Greeks
I had a really constructive conversation with an anon (impressive collection of Greek books, said he hangs around /lit/ a lot) the other day and if that anon or any other experienced in the Greeks could reply, that would be swell.
I'm about to dive headfirst into the Greeks and wanted to check this reading order made sense.
Note: I won't be reading all the secondary material, but I'm just checking it's in a spot where it would make sense to read it.
Note: I will mark stuff I will definitely read with a **, everything else is secondary material I may or may not read, but want to check is in a logical spot.
1) MYTHOLOGY
**Mythology - Edith Hamilton
**Hesiod and Theognis (Penguin Classics)
The Cambridge Companion to Greek Mythology
2) HOMER and TROY
The Trojan War: A New History - Barry Strauss
**The Illiad - Homer
The Illiad or the Poem of Force - Simon Weil
**The Odyssey - Homer
The Homeric Hymns - apparently Homer
Greek Epic Fragments (West edition)
3) HISTORY and MISC
**The First Poets - Schmidt
Fragments - Heraclitus (I've heard this is pretty awful which honestly has interested me, how bad can it be?)
**The Histories - Herodotus
**History of the Peloponnesian War - Thucydides
**A History of My Times - Xenephon
[I own Conversations of Socrates and Hiero the Tyrant but not sure what the best order is. This section I basically want the best of Herodotus/Thucydides/Xenephon, all the history greats. Some guidance here would be lovely]
The Rise and Fall of Athens - Plutarch
On Sparta - Plutarch
4) DRAMA
[I basically want to read all the main stuff here, but I'm not sure of the best order. So I'll just list the books I currently have. My library can get anything though so please help me if I'm missing good books/plays here.]
[Also just assume everything is **/mandatory here.]
The Theban Plays - Sophocles
Electra and Other Plays - Sophocles
Wasps/Poet/Frogs (Penguin Classics) - Aristophanes
Frogs and Other Plays - Aristophanes
The Birds and Other Plays (Aristophanes)
The Oresetian Trilogy - Aeschylus
The Persians and Other Plays - Aeschylus
Heracles and Other Plays - Euripides
Medea and Other Plays - Eurpides
The Bacchae and other Plays - Euripides
Orestes and Other Plays - Eurpides
The Comedies - Terence
[Am I missing any big playwrights?]
5) PHILOSOPHY - PRESOCRATICS and SOPHISTS
**The First Philosophers - Waterfield
Early Greek Philosophy (Penguin)
The Greek Sophists (Penguin)
6) PHILOSOPHY - ARISTOTLE and PLATO
**Plato - Complete Works
The Bloomsbury Companion to Plato
History of Philosophy - Copleston
**The Complete Works of Aristotle
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Misc question: Where would Discourses and Selected Writings by Epictetus go?
Misc question 2: Any major books/ideas/plays/writers I'm missing here?
Misc question 3: Where would Seneca's "Letters from a Stoic" go? Where would Stoic stuff go?
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Protip: Don't start with the Greeks. That's a meme
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>>7614890
I mean, that was one of the sources I used for creating the order I have now, but I'm asking more specific questions, you know? Cheers for the image mate but yeah, already seen it and used it :)
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Books you HAVE to read in their original language?
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journey to the west and three kindoms
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>>7614156
Who cares
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>>7614156
Just poetry. Nothing else.
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The Bib is making its comeback tonight, 00:00 GMT, and to celebrate we're having a sharethread.
Post your requests (please check other sources first though, do some work yourself!) and share whatever else you want. Some of us will be downloading and sharing whole collections (NYRB/Dalkey) so look for those as well.
Old thread is here, with some shared books: >>7582051
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>>7613526
I doubt you guys have the entire NYRB/Dalkey catalog
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>>7613528
We have whatever's been digitized. Why, do you have it all?
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>>7613526
https://u.pomf.is/ncylao.torrent
Sharing my 4.5 gigs of mostly bibliotik with some collections.
What do you think of the UK 20th Anniversary cover?
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>zadie smith
kek
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fuck thats basd
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zadie smith is a better writer than david 'the charlatan' foster wallace
that quote was probably pulled completely out of context
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>>7613009
i agree that's part of the kek.
though that's a low bar~
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/lit/'s thoughts on this piece of cinema ?
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fuck off
check the archives
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The archives don't work anymore dingus.
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as a movie about DFW as a person - it fails
as a movie exploring DFW's ideas - it fails
as a movie exploring the relationship between DFW and david lipsky - it's weak
as a piece of pure film, an audio-visual experience given meaning by editing - it fails
seems kind of like a movie for no one. if you're a DFW fan, you will probably be annoyed by it, if you're not a DFW fan, you probably won't give a shit
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What is Jule Vernes best work?
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Diabetes and his death from it
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>>7619410
The various hollywood adaptations geared at kids.
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How does it feel knowing this guy is drowning in pussy?
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>>7619187
and for you, more than likely a better looking guy, is struggling.
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>>7619187
Well he's married and he doesn't seem the kind of guy who cheats on his wife. Even if his slavishly devoted audience solidly in the female 16-25 range.
I actually suspect that the fact that he's so sexually unintimidating is part of the reason he's so popular among young women. They like John, but they're not swooning for him.
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How does it feel to start shit-thread after shit-thread about this non-entity?
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I read what is the what and I still don't know what the what actually is.
Yes, I am a literate noob.
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>>7619184
Eggars. Not even once.