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I want to read Shakespeare /lit/, but I'm completely lost when it comes to choosing editions. I'm talking physical books.
What are the best options for someone that wants to read and understand him? (I clarify this because I know there's plenty of editions meant for study with endless footnotes). Should I go for individual books for every of his major works? Should I stick with a complete collection perhaps? In any case, which editions?
Pic related.
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been spending months looking for shakespeare editions. your options are super limited if you want individual editions - all paperback, arden or norton are generally recommended. oxford is not a bad choice either.

for complete one volume tomes, go for riverside or pelican.

is this your first time reading shakespeare? if so you might want something that's heavier on the footnotes to explain syntax and vocabulary.
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>>7613030
How many annotations, footnotes, explanations and essays do you want for each play?
Do you want a collected works or individual books?
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>>7613038
Not OP but I have the Arden version of hamlet and there are way too many notes. Literally 3/4 of the page is explanation and 1/4 is the actual play. It makes any kind of flow impossible.
After that I bought the rest in the modern library rsc editions. They explain the more archaic words or expressions that we wouldn't know currently. 1 essay is included.
Shakespeare isn't that hard to understand and I think that Arden and probably Norton overdue the notes unless you want to be a Shakespeare scholar.

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What is the worst book you had to read for your English/literature courses in high school, /lit/? The best?

For me, the worst:
>pic related
The best:
>Nineteen Eighty Four
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the scarlett letter was the worst
cant think of one i actually liked that much but song of solomon was cool freshman year
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>>7616534
Goddam that protag was an absolute cunt
there is this white knight that browses this board that defends this shitty book
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Best
>GR
Worst
>The Great Gatsby

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I am supposed to write a journal entry from the perspective of a character from Hamlet. I am writing about the use of double meaning by Hamlet himself. So far I have "to be or not to be" as a double meaning for suicide and homicide, and I have "get thee to a nunnery" as a double meaning of calling Ophelia a whore and insisting she goes to an actual nunnery. Can anyone give me another example?

Only rule is that it must be between Act 1 and Act 3.

All help is appreciated.
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>>7616468
The first dialogue between Hamlet and his uncle about "less than kin" or something like that. I'm mexican so I only coud grasp such things thanks to the endnotes. Try an edition that provides you with a lot of notes even if most are obvious.
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>>7616581
To clarify: "kind" has a double, if not triple, meaning.

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Can people recommend me some high fantasy please?
Note: I really enjoyed the Kingkiller Chronicles thus far so maybe I like shit books.
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>>7616297
1.moontide quartet (I did not like it but maybe you will)
2.runelords by David Farland (I did not like it but maybe you will)
Im assuming you read everything by Brandon Sanderson,joe abercrombie,terry goodkind,Mark Lawrence.
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Malazan if you can live without handholding
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>>7616297
The Godlanders War by Aaron Pogue

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After all these years, I finally pick'd up The Legacy of the Totalitarianism in a Tundra. Read three pages, and laughed at every paragraph. So bad it's good.
If it is funny all they way through I may end reading it all.
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>>7616290
Really? You mean it? But this is excellent news, most excellent! He finally pick'd it up, o happy day! The nights I've spent laid awake just wondering, will he read it soon? Will he ever? You don't know what this means to me. And after all these years? You know, the first year after it was released I kept saying to myself "It's okay. Maybe he just has other things to read, first." then the second and third years came and went and I must admit, then I began to lose hope. I had to remind myself that you have so many other important things to do, your life is so exciting... but you finally pick'd it up! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! He finally deigned to read three pages! What's more, he even thought to let me know of it! I cannot begin to express how thankful I am, how sincerely interested and glad I am that you stooped to let us know that you finally, finally, after all these many, many long years, read an entire three pages of that book. I believe I speak for every Anon when I say we are honoured that you would do such a thing. You humble us by your words, by your very presence.
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>>7616401
I'm glad it makes you happy :D

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Can you learn about people and truths from literature. Learning from the authors experience inserted in to their works. By literature I mean works like "War and Peace.
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Answer me you cunts.
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>>7616254

somebody edit that book to Infinite Jest
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>>7616342
Oh young one. Literature is question marks disguised as answers.

I want to read his works. Is there a recommended reading order? Which books should I keep in mind?
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start with the first.
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Correct Order to Read Faulkner
1 As I Lay Dying
2 Light in August
3 The Sound and The Fury
4. Absalom, Absalom!
5. Go Down Moses
6. The Hamlet

then whatever order you feel like, those are his best though
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as i lay dying is a good place to start. I wouldn't recommend diving into TSaTF

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Where do I start with this gent? Is How to Read and Why a good place to start?
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>>7616145
You stupid nigger, read his recommendations not anything he actually wrote. I assure you, wikipedia is a good start and end

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Western_Canon:_The_Books_and_School_of_the_Ages
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>>7616155

>read things he recommended

I actually *want* to read things *he* wrote. That is why I am asking which book of his is a good introductory read.
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>>7616185
how to read and why is still a recommendation of on the things to read, if it's not his recommendation it's his take on religion
his one novel is kind of bad but his religion ones are pretty good
he is a critic he tells you what is good for consumption and why

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The new testament is basically written in "wardine be cry" language. Koine greek was a bastardized patois not respected in the world of greek literature.
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The New Testament is boring as fuck. The Old Testament has all these wonderful stories about the meaning of hardship and the personal characters of great men, and then the New Testament is just like, "Believe and you'll be saved".
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>>7616120
Which is exactly why it worked so well.

You don't need to be a hero, see. You just need this one weird tip! Yes, I know there's more to it than that.
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>>7616127
>>7616120

The consistent referencing and repainting of the old testament is probably its only strength. By referencing greater literature than itself it succeeds in garnering respect and also gets people caught up in the scholarship of all the references.

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existing feels to me so empty and hollow

loneliness is so despairing and it feels like It penetrates my bones

nothing is but a fake or a lie, exept the vast emptiness of the space around us

i feel like only love can save us, but i'm 19 years old and i never had anything with a girl, nor i think i'll have any if i will keep going like this

how can one cope with this? will i just wait for something to come along?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cchlCNlJUXw
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>>7616051
If it makes you feel better, I am in my mid 30s, and the people you see getting lives and girls and boys and kids feel the exact same thing, men and women.

I would recommend cramming your life full so that you dont have to think about it. Schedule and regiment yourself

-fitness
-sports
-reading
-fulfilling work
-travel
-religion (if you swing that way)
-community service (you could at least reduce the suffering of others to make your life more worthwile)
-vidya or cinema (if you have downtime and dont want to sit and stew in your own brain)

Read Meditations, Siddartha, and Tao te Ching, and stop frogposting.
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>>7616068
Gospel of Matthew is good too. Do unto others etc
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read Plato

>>7616068
so this is what people mean by bourgeois

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Can someone explain to me the difference between Debord and Baudrillard's thought. In particular the difference between Hyper-reality and the spectacular society.

At face value the two critical systems seem overly similar. Did Baudrillard take ideas from Debord, or is there a lot that I'm missing
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>>7615948
it's all bullshit anyway
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Debord is useless to read without having read Marx and Lukacs.
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>>7615948
If you can't see the difference then tyre too retarded to be reading them

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How does /lit / feel about this?
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fine for genre fiction since they are rarely read more than once
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Disgusting and abhorrent
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>>7615601
You mean that disgusting Slav language?

Thoughts on this book and on Hobsbawm in general? I would like to read pic related and the others 3 books, but first I want to know what is /lit/'s opinion on him.
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>>7615475
Marxist, revisionist, apologetic hack
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Marxist propagandist. He writes a supposed world history but vital shit like the Franco-Prussian War, the decline of China/rise of Japan and America's wars of expansion are barely mentioned.

>>7615579
too right
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Read some of his stuff when studying identity and Nationalism, I think he's very reductionist, typical old school marxist

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Is reading Das Kapital worthwhile? I am interested in the backgrounds of Marxist theory but I have heard it is mostly irrelevant to modern Marxism
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>>7615248

Yes it is. Read it and formulate your on thoughts on it.
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if you don't have a grasp on classical economics then don't read Das Kapital until you do
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>>7615268
true dat

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Today I found A Clockwork Orange in a trash bin and took it with me. Should it have stayed there?
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Yes.
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maybe, define "it"
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>>7615094
Yes, you should have stayed in the trash.

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