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Oh, fuck yes. They had these in the dollar store, I must have got twenty Jules Verne and Robert Louis Stevensons.

>>7654375
But... OP, they're... edited! Striped! Marrow drained!

>>7654375
i had a copy of their Swiss Family Robinson. I loved that book.

this question is stupid on so many levels

go back to R E D D I T where this image gets spammed once a month, you're obviously from there

It's certainly true that people look for irony and satire where it doesn't exist when they read late 18th century novels.

>There's no way a man so intelligent and well-respected could have been so sentimental, right? I mean, this is laughable—wait, maybe that's the point! Maybe it's a SATIRE on sentiment! Yes, his use of irony is masterful!

Why the fuck is this a venn diagram? What's the intersection? Surely the point is that they're completely separate.

Pale king might have been the greatest novel ever written, had it been completed.

I think some might argue that New Sincerity might place an upper limit on the amount of depth a work can have--that irony is somehow necessary for nuanced thought.

I of course disagree with that contention a lot though, and identify strongly with New Sincerity, as well as other post-postmodern, or post-ironic, movements.

>>7654983
Its dumb shit that only merica college kids like.

For all talks of sincerity it seems to still operate on the inescapable epistemological basis of post-modernism which necessarily begets working with and through irony. I feel like the true spectrum people work on nowadays isn't sincerity-irony but awareness from the outsider savant to the hyper (self) aware

Manny Puig? Wasn't he on Wildboyz?

>>7656755
Kiss of the Spider Woman

>>7657026
Manny is Cuban, Manuel is from Argentina

>>7656755
Spider-woman issue 243 is where his arc starts

Read it ironically

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>>7655174
Not bad advice... I would say read it with a grain of salt, take notes on the general outline of his history (because it's better viewed in chronological charts than in paragraphs) and analyse it from your own vantage point on history.

>decline
But we are becoming greater with each passing year !

3.4 ideology grams.

>>7657224
Yes, you are constantly getting third hand accounts of everything but what British presenter man seems not to get is that the things he thinks are facts he treats as if he has certainty about their origins and interpretations. It's his whole notion of epistemology that is questionable. The notion that you can understand everything, that everything is explicable or logical is maybe not demonstrably false but also cannot be assumed correct.

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>>7657224
technological determinism/10\
grand narratives/10

there is more truth in this image of a pizza

>reading the worst of the Greek tragedians

>frogposter hasn't killed self yet
filthy dumb frogposting scum

>>7657009
It's all I've got left anon, except the surviving chunk of that Sophocles satyr play.

>>7656689
Tyrone Slothrop

god, the bible

>>7656689
Hal/king Henry V

He gets points for being a materialist that at least recognizes how awful and soulless modern life is. But he loses points for somehow managing to be more anti-traditional than anti-modern.

(This is a man who literally thinks that the future of technology, as a future consequence of the Enlightenment, will somehow redeem our listless, perfunctory, perverted and infantile existences- a present consequence of the Enlightenment.)

His prose is awful. His characters are paper-thin. He would be better if he wrote essays instead of the crap he tries to pass off as novels.

Put another way:

Yes Mr. Houllebecq, we know our life is a sham: I don't need you to tell me. I don't go to books to have my face rubbed in that. I go to books because I want some way, temporary or enduring, out of it.

>>7656635
Literally how I feel about Wallace.

>>>/x/

>>7654403
100 years of solitude

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jessica a cute!

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I usually stare at my diary desu

if you fear disappointment you should make your needs a bit more precise

>Recommend me books.
Nah. If you looked through any of the existing threads you'd have found some books that match your stipulations. Instead, you asked us to work for you. You can go fuck yourself.

Well, City on Fire clearly broke the third rule, didn't it?

I dunno. Just something that'll entertain me. A wide open field should allow people to respond more easily. I just want something fun to read.

I already read The Apology, Crito, Laches, Eutyphro, Charmydes and Lysis, which ones should I read next?

in a stochastic order

>>7656890
This is one of the best collections I've read from the past decade. The first story is the weakest, but the rest are much better. I recommend that you don't read the title story until last, it spoils some of the other stories (not just plot elements), and also the story Interesting Facts has moreimpact when read last. I honestly have no fucking clue why he didn't put Interesting Facts last.

>>7656890

The Gambler might be a good companion piece, possibly.

>>7656924
Care to explain why? Because tbqh famiglia, it sounds like you're basing the comparison on the cover. (Protip: no actual gambling occurs.)