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So i finally dropped pic related after slogging through 500 pages of needless elucidation and overwrought speech (to which i agree with Nabokov's criticism he writes speech like a failed playwright).
I guess itll join the ranks of Verne's From Earth to the Moon and Palhunuhu's Snuff as books I've not finished.Though the age and covers are worth keeping them for anyway
So /lit/ what books have you given up on.
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>>7656861
If you aren't in the mood for Dostoevsky it doesn't work.
Gave up on V. long ago. Couldn't interest me for shit. Haven't bothered with Pynchon since.
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Gave up on Ulysses.
Picked it back up two years later and now it's my favourite book of all time.
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Did Mercedes deserve her fate?
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Not really, she thought he was dead. It's okay to move on if your loved one is dead.
I mean, she did say she'd kill herself if Fernando murdered him, but that was more like a counter-incentive, right? Also she said Dantes right again at the end.
Also, her fate wasn't all that bad, all things considered:
>happy youth
>rich nobleman's wife
>majority of life in wealth
>even after shameful death of said husband, she gets to live a comfortable life and see her son grow up.
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>>7656925
set* Dantes right.
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>>7656925
But she spent 10 years mourning her betrothed then married a man she did not love out of necessity. And then when Dantes returned everything was taken from her, and she commits herself to a lonely life deprived of both wealth and poverty.
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Top pleb here, is pic related the best translation of Kafka? I've heard complaints of its syntax, but I also hear that's what makes it true to the original German
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DUDE AND THEN HE TURNS INTO A BUG LMAO
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>>7656802
Don't listen to the fools on this board. Plot and themes are always more important than prose. This is a board that actually believed Nabakov contributed anything to literature.
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>>7656818
O.o
So is Crick's translation okay?
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then I and virgil go troughh hell where I met all my favorites characterss who they talk to me and reveal all their secrets stories
Then I met Lucifer (My OC who is an alternative vers of Satan) whom is a cool super winged beast with three heads who chomp of thee bigggest baddies!!
Then I go to the putgutory who is a mount and is very high and then I go to the heven wheree I met my waifu who is beautiful and then I met God!
Should me post it here??!? It's probabl the best fanffic you ever read!
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super epic dude, no one's ever thought of that joke before
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I'm not really sure what you're trying to do.
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XD shut up and take my upvotes!!
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Which books is good to read if you want understand about social problems? 2016-02-03 12:36:04 Post No.7655734
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Which books is good to read if you want understand about social problems?
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Hi guys,
I'll have to do essays and I need to have a good understand about issues like marihuanna legalization, mass incarceration... Which books do you sugests?
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Mummy's Chicken Tendies - Blowy Joey
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>>7655734
try the /r/blazeit subreddit, some quality recommendation there for someone of your level OP
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I suggest not being a fucking loser who cares about social issues
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books for schizophrenia?
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Notes From Underground by Dostoevsky.
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>>7655655
A Thousand Plateaus by Deleuze & Guattari
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>>7655655
The Divided Self by R.D. Laing
Had a fun idea: in 3-5 sentences we write a distilled version of an authors general schtick. It should mimic language, milieu, and theme, though of course of bit of parody will go a way toward making this more entertaining.
I'll go first - Raymond Carver
He smoked a cigarette.
She climbed into bed.
"Can we get a new bed".
The cigarette set fire to the bed.
She couldn't sleep or free herself from her dull existence (because the bed was on fire); she worked in a bed shop.
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And there's something terribly sad and banal about itWilliam Faulkner
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He was just a good o'l yankee machinist with a little of that which his grand mother had taken to calling "that kinda' seein you do with your soul". He could of shit his britches when the psychic pedoe millipede opened a macdonalds franchise. Still, his favourite machine was deus ex machina, so he did something gay like really love somebody and the pedo vampire exploded, and he inherited the macdonalds franchise.
Stephen King
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"Let us diccuss how the metaphysics of the magical arcana and debt slavery is represented in these unbreakable evil chains of darkness" stated the marine, for he was the top sniper in the Empire's armed forces.
"Nay," proclaimed the infant babe with the power. "such brash action would bring for the storm, and with it, the fury that would wipe out all of us."
"Enough!" shouted the god, his voice shattering two mountains in the distance and creating chasms from which evil beings poured forth. "You are both stupid!"
Stephen Erickson
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Have you already done the leap of faith, /lit/?
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I've never been in a situation where I had to. I hope that if I am, I will have the power to do it though.
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Yes, after many years I have come to develop faith in an objective reality beyond the senses. Even though I can never experience this reality it just makes sense to believe and act as if others are not merely the dream figures I have experienced them to be, but actually, beyond sense, intelligences of their own. I have faith young /lit/erate, but it isn't without doubt.
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>leap of faith
As a logical being, endowed not with impairment of thought, this is well beyond my means.
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Lit to conquer the world 2016-02-02 20:59:57 Post No.7653367
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Let's get a thread about literature that would inspire young minds to strive for greatness and both to get them inspired to want to conquer the world but also get them to believe they could.
No self help shit-tier lit though.
I'll start with a biography of pic-related's life.
Let's go guys.
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The Quraan
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>>7653382
Be serious bruv.
I said no self help shit-tier lit.
Get your shit together.
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Do you know of any novels that deal with American expansion and the communal sense of optimism that came with exploring and taming the West? Or the slow change in mentality when they reached the Pacific Ocean and there was nothing left to explore?
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das capital
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Little house on the prairie?
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>>7656552
That isn't really an accurate depiction of the American feeling at the time though.
It doesn't make sense at all.
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Lets talk about "New Sincerity". What do you think of the movement?
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v.uninspired desu
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Fruity
Sour
Zesty
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For all talks of sincerity it seems to still operate on the inescapable epistemological basis of post-modernism which necessarily begets working with and through irony. I feel like the true spectrum writers operate on nowadays isn't sincerity-irony but awareness, from the outsider savant to the hyper (self-)aware.
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What are some good books on either suicide or happiness (or the lack thereof), be it fiction or non-fiction.
I've heard nice things about Russell's book on happiness (the non-philosophy one where he just gives advice on happiness).
Something beyond Camus and Nietzsche (although if you're going to mention a specific work by the latter and not just mention his name go ahead) would be appreciated.
Also, don't recommend Seneca, Marcus, Epictetus or Epicurous.
Pic related, you can recommend him if you want.
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How rude of me, thanks in advance folks!
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>don't recommend Epicurus
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>>7656439
I don't catch you?
I fucking hate this site. I had not internet by month, and only thing i was doing was reading books (neet here), and i really fealt better, i havent crying once since withdrawal. This feeling, when you see a "interesting thread", and you read it whole cause well you started reading it; and all those posts are so sad and pretentious and not interesting at all; always i end with this feeling of complete waste of time. Generaly most of internet seems likely depressing. Just - you know, so souless and boring. What are some books that will help me appreciate internet?
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legacy of totalitarianism in a tundra
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Probably any cyberpunk circa 1990-2005
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>>7656412
back to r/books with you
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Pic related is better than Infinite Jest.
RPO is a poorly written but nevertheless entertaining novel that manages to excite and enrapture its target audience with an endless litany of 80s references. It pretends to be nothing more and delivers on what it promises. The weak characters and blatant wish fulfillment is forgivable given the book is a paean to video game and "geek" culture, both of which are allowed to take center stage and amuse those for whom the book is intended.
Infinite Jest is the puerile, pseudo-intellectual howl of a man with no discernible talent. It speaks to a very particular experience - that of being an upper class white man from suburbia - in a nauseating and self-indulgent way. It even fails to accurately capture that existence, but instead substitutes it with a vapid and disingenuous image that appeals to what the presumed reader (an insufferable "philosophical, deep, and brooding" hipster who thinks himself an intellectual) wants to read.
RPO is more palatable since it makes no pretense of realism or insight, whereas Infinite Jest is buoyed entirely by that pretense while ultimately failing to deliver.
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No one on here takes Infinite Jest seriously anymore. It's Reddit-tier
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Go back to r/books faggot
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>>7656376
You just made the case for the two works being incomparable - and came to a comparative conclusion.
The books are too different for one to be objectively "better" than another.
All I know is that, having read both, I came out of the end of IJ feeling better, wholer and smarter as a person, when I finished RPO I felt like I had wasted my time reading it just so I could say truthfully that I had read it during arguments about how bad it was.
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Why do people respect simple, unchallenging prose? 2016-02-03 16:35:33 Post No.7656367
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Why do people respect simple, unchallenging prose?
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I think prose is the most important part of a book. Sophisticated, well thought out prose can turn a bad book (with boring characters and bad plot) into a good book. Yet, you frequently see critics champion the prose of writers like John Williams, Ernest Hemingway, and late Don DeLillo. Why?
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Anyone? I don't get this.
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Because you're wrong.
Why don't you just write poems then.
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Sophisticated, well thought out prose does not necessarily mean complicated and challenging prose.
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