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>tfw you realize God exists but he's incompetent and lazy
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>>8213592
>tfw you realize God doesn't exist outside the minds of incompetent and lazy thinkers
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no shit we're made in his image.
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>>8213602
>tfw you realize if you're not incompetent or lazy you're not a human soul as that is the very foundation of mankind and therefore God cannot exist in your machinery

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Wagner says that he confessed to him about weeping to a monk. Wagner was a Romanticist, and Nietzsche was a classical philhellene, so it's possible he was trying to slander him for artistic purposes. But at the same time, Christianity is a reoccurring subject in Nietzsche's work, and we're all probably familiar with the infamous chapter in "Antichrist".

One account of this is mentioned in one of Nietzsche's biographies. If I recall correctly, so the story goes, there was a kindly Orthodox monk (I believe perhaps an archimandrite , or somewhere in that eminence range) who was being severely persecuted by the Lutheran Church or state, and he wrote an article on his behalf that led to the monk being exonerated by her. Some time afterward, he saw him in the street and prayed with him, and well, you can guess the rest. Later, he calls on Wagner, who I believe was a bitter enemy of his at the time, to come to his house and he confesses all this to him. Wagner was disgusted, and when Nietzsche saw the look on his face, he said something like "you cannot possibly love me as much as I love you!" From what I remember, the biographer seemed to believe this confession took place but thought Nietzsche was lying about it because of some weird pious complex he has, which seems like a stretch to me. I don't know whether or not he actually confessed this to Wagner, but if he did, I'm inclined to believe he was telling the truth. I mean, who the fuck lies about weeping to a monk?

Another thing... I recognize this has a lot less credibility, but probably like 6 or 7 years ago, I read a post on reddit from some guy claiming to be in contact with people from Kierkegaard''s estate and supposedly they had letters or diaries backing up the claim that he had confessed his sins. According to him, Nietzsche had some weird belief that being absolved by a priest "cleansed" him in some way. I assumed this guy was lying, but the only reason I didn't totally write him off is because when I messaged him for more info, he sent me a link to a translated version of some Danish website where Lou Andreas-Salomé (1st ever female Russian psychoanalyst, who supposedly rejected a marriage proposal by Nietzsche) claims he talked about doing this during a walk. This sounds like a very slavish thing to do, but at the time, confession wasn't viewed the same as it is today, and in particular, the confession to someone from a higher power wouldn't have been viewed as backward (see the depiction of the confession of the the Apostle Paul, Jew, a former Pharisee, in "The Dawn"), so a bunch of philosophers/philologists talking about during a midday walk wouldn't have been that unusual given their value system.

What do you guys think? Have you heard anything about this?
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If any of your hearsay anecdotal evidence and hazy memories are true ("I remember reading something on Reddit 6 to 7 years ago", come on) then he's Christian in a false U.S Army "no atheists in foxholes" way and doesn't have an effect on his work.
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>>8213586
is this going to be a a new copypasta? i might start on a joyce and dfw version tbqh
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>>8213586
Why would any of this impugn Nietzsche's credentials in any way? He must have been pretty close to Christianity in order to attack it as radically and thoroughly as he did, anyway.

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last year i read every day including the summer
this year i read only 15 books so far
100 pages in the last 10 days (confederacy of dunces)
is it the antidepressants
what do
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>>8213528
>Force yourself to read
>Vary your book choice
>Read nonfiction
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>>8213528
Allow yourself to take a break. I find it's a lot easier when you don't have a voice inside of you telling you you need to be doing something right now.
Perhaps try rereading a favorite you haven't read in a while, it should be easier to get through.
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>>8213528
>only 15 books
that's a reasonable amount. I wouldn't worry about it. also,
>>8213961
this

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How much cultural capital do you have?
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>>8213524
2
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cis-gendered straight upper-class white male American reporting in. Any recommended reading by this bourdieu chap, anon?
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>>8213540
I haven't read him, sorry.

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who else waiting here?
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>>8213417
Book 3 of the Kingkiller series is taking its fucking time.
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Recognitions got me feeling this way right now. I'm moving through it with enough interest but it's a slow journey towards the 1000+ final page
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>>8213440
It will be crap.
Just like the other 2.

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About to go to Paris. What book do I read on the flight? I have enjoyed fantasy and dystopian in the past, but that doesn't mean I need one of those.
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>>8213253
The sun also rises or A moveable feast by Hemmingway
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read one perfect day by ira levin. i know you will not regret it.
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>>8213253
I read 1Q84 on a flight to Paris
Pretty comfy desu

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ITT: God tier publishers
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That + Dell.
End list
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Schism Press
Punctum Books
Mimesis
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Penguin.

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Pleb here. How do you distinguish between good and shit poetry? What are the criteria?
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The quality of poetry is measured using a metre. You need to see how many feet it is.
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>>8213181
kill yourself my guy
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>>8213175

Jesus Christ watch the first 30 minutes of dead poets society.....

basically, poetry isn't something to be measured... honestly literature can just barely be,

what is good and what is shit between this

bernie plz free abortion
i got pregnant yesterday
and now tyrone has left me here
and i dont want to pay

bernie plz free abortion
and also pay for aids
cuz tyrone came inside of me
and tyrone is half gay

bernie plz free abortion
theres a thing inside of me
its kicking like a lil monkey
bernie set me free

bernie plz free abortion
from ur social care
and maybe some free college too
bernie plz im scare

or

who are you,little i

(five or six years old)
peering from some high

window;at the gold

of november sunset

(and feeling:that if day
has to become night

this is a beautiful way)

you just can't because poetry is fucking whack yo

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Should authors be allowed to discuss this deeply detailed about a characters personal life? Especially about literature meant for kids?

>Stephen King admits Roland from The Dark Tower series likes to be pegged
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Who cares
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>>8213121
They shouldn't not be allowed but they should know better than to engage in that kind of nonsense.
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>>8213121
>Harry potter books are full of murder
>Wizards and witches dropping dead like flies, many of them children
>End of the world stuff every academic year

A tweet merely implying a sexual position is worse than all that murder?

Morality in 2016

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>My sweet little whorish Nora I did as you told me, you dirty little girl, and pulled myself off twice when I read your letter. I am delighted to see that you do like being fucked arseways. Yes, now I can remember that night when I fucked you for so long backwards. It was the dirtiest fucking I ever gave you, darling. My prick was stuck in you for hours, fucking in and out under your upturned rump. I felt your fat sweaty buttocks under my belly and saw your flushed face and mad eyes. At every fuck I gave you your shameless tongue came bursting out through your lips and if a gave you a bigger stronger fuck than usual, fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora’s fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also.

>You say when I go back you will suck me off and you want me to lick your cunt, you little depraved blackguard. I hope you will surprise me some time when I am asleep dressed, steal over to me with a whore’s glow in your slumberous eyes, gently undo button after button in the fly of my trousers and gently take out your lover’s fat mickey, lap it up in your moist mouth and suck away at it till it gets fatter and stiffer and comes off in your mouth. Sometimes too I shall surprise you asleep, lift up your skirts and open your drawers gently, then lie down gently by you and begin to lick lazily round your bush. You will begin to stir uneasily then I will lick the lips of my darling’s cunt. You will begin to groan and grunt and sigh and fart with lust in your sleep. Then I will lick up faster and faster like a ravenous dog until your cunt is a mass of slime and your body wriggling wildly.

>Goodnight, my little farting Nora, my dirty little fuckbird! There is one lovely word, darling, you have underlined to make me pull myself off better. Write me more about that and yourself, sweetly, dirtier, dirtier.
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>>8213109
MODS
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>tfw no gf
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tfw no gf

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Do you keep some books at your bed side, lit?
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>/i'm 18 and i am very smart/-core

kys my man
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Current reads and:
The Holy Bible
Also, my journal
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>>8213012
I'm 25 and I've only read 3 of those.

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Where is /lit/s favorite place to read? Mine is a park near my house thats usually empty, great view of the hills and lake in the summertime.
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I love sitting by the hills near my home overlooking Rome while drinking cheap lumbrusco wine and reading Dostojevsky
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>>8212819
Can't tell if this is a meme or a very lucky Italian
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>>8212815
>he lives in the Northeast

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I'm trying to get over an extremely painful breakup, /lit/.

Any books that will make me miss my ex even more? I feel emotionally destroyed but I wanna see how far this rabbit hole of utter anguish goes.
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>>8212776
This is the greatest >tfwngf book ever created.
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Sombrero Fallout
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If the answer isn't "everything", it's not as bad as you think.
You're fine. Stop pretending it meant something, it didn't.

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Let's see who can write the best existentialist poem or proverb about the Library of Alexandria burning. I'll start us off:

I shall erase knowledge as if I had never had it in the first place
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>>8212763
I shall erase dubs as if I had never had them in the first place
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And in the flames of nature burns the toils and trivializations of man. The equivalence of thousands of human minds' collective reflections and priceless knowledge. The earth takes back the secrets she had given to her patrons, leaving them to stumble into their forests again in hopes that they may find their path.
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>>8212763
Amassed ancient Afrikan artefacts apposing alexandria abolished as an act against Asiatic actualisation and abusively abnegated alas appropriated as authentically abrahamic astronomy.

Who are some Russian authors who might be overlooked from the 19th century and prior?

I've covered Gogol, Pushkin, Tolstoy, Dostoy, Lermontov, Turgenev.

Wouldn't mind some more recs.
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Sergei Nikolaevich Trubetskoy and Nikolai Berdyaev are largely overlooked in the west.
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>>8212683
Leskov
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>>8212720
>>8212722

Appreciate it guys, look forward to checking them out.

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