What are some good Vietnam War Memoirs? Firsthand accounts from people who were there.
graham greene is said to be good
not a memoir per se, but The Things They Carried is a good book about the experience of Vietnam-era soldiers.
>>8210532
I've already read that one. It was pretty good, though. Thanks anyway.
Alright senpai, school me:
I'm looking for entry level books about Japanese philosophy - not necessarily in the way I would look at schools of philosophy in the west, but I'm more talking about what inspired the thing we in the west call "the Japanese way of life", if that makes any sense.
I'm sure that feudalist tradition plays a huge role in it, which is why I think I should check out Musashi's Five Rings? Maybe Bushido?
Or is that putting the cart before the horse, and I should look at zen buddhism? If so, what is a good entry level work, especially how the Japanese have adapted it into their culture?
>>8210280
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_at_War
>>8210280
>Honour famiry
>Obey famiry
>Honour tradition
>Respect auforitee
>Practice rites
>Because junzi (or equivalent Japanese term)
>Obtain government position
Congratulations, I have just summarized East Asian authority for you.
>>8210286
That looks pretty great, thanks!
Tell lit the aphorisms you made up and are proud of but could never say irl because you'd be seen as tryhard and pretentious.
>Play is the highest form of learning.
>All Philosophy begins and ends at Stirner. The wisest man moves the least.
you are proud of that shit?
what a sad life
people come up with the craziest reasons to justify being a lazy shit
To live is to fight despair, to fight death.
Hey /lit/, was planning on ordering some books soon. Penguin has most of the books that I want. I don't own any penguin books, so I do not know how good the quality is. I was wondering, are penguins worth the money or is there a brand with better price/value ratio?
oxford has higher price and better quality, better overall ratio.
>>8210101
The production quality of Penguin paperbacks (paper stock, printing, binding, the presence of contextualising and explanatory notes and introduction) is superior to what you would see in other mass market paperbacks. This is unless the same material can be found in a scholarly Oxford World Classics volume. In which case, sometimes Oxford is better - but they don't print everything.
I am satisfied with Penguin's collected volumes of Lovecraft and Lord Dunsany, for example.
What good writers are ENTJ?
>>8210072
ENTJ a shit. INFJ master race
lawyers and civil servants
What are some film adaptations of books that are on par with the works they're adapted from? They don't have to be one-to-one adaptations. They can be fairly loosely related. They just have to be good.
>>8209814
Tin Drum was a shit of a movie.
I haven't read the book but wow that movie was awful.
>>8209878
Studied film and literature. Seen it. Disagree strongly.
Apocalypse Now
Were his other works reading?
No memes please
if you like IJ, yes. if not, no probably not.
I really like TPK. It's consistently a little worse and more boring than IJ, but there are occasional parts that are better than amything in IJ, like Toni Ware's upbringing, the renegade president theorycraft etc. It's also funnier.
I've forgotten the name of his non IJ novel even though I own it and read half of it. Pomo drudgery.
>Spend the past few months immersing myself in classical literature/music/etc, having ignored pretty much all of it for most of my life
>Realize how utterly robbed we have been by modernity: modern life, education, culture, etc
Anyone else know this feel? My life now feels like one long catch-up. Have things declined, or are all these people who insist that I'm nostalgic, or wearing rose-tinted glasses, wrong? Should I make peace with modernity?
Go full Don Quixote
>>8209016
They don't make windmills like they used to.
You're a meme, OP.
Things have not declined, you just have no insight and don't know where to look. Stunning ignorance and fedoraism - it's embarrassing to watch.
Hello I could use your help
I've been given the opportunity to teach junior college students how to analyze literature/art correctly; that is realizing the true meaning of a text which is not as obvious as its other aspects. It's a program thats going to be pretty much run entirely by me, a student. This is a great opportunity and I really don't want to mess it up so I could use some help. I work as a writing coach at a junior college and find that many students don't have basic skills for proper analyzing of the more difficult things in different texts. I think this is largely because most of them have gone class to class, grade to grade only doing assigned reading and not having any experience outside of the classroom on their own. I know I want to teach them the Socratic method so they can habituate themselves to always asking about the nature of things they find in text but don't have much else to go on. I also plan on teaching them how to analyze paintings and different mediums other than pure text to try and integrate that understanding into literature. What do you guys think? What is essential in teaching someone how to analyze literature? Also, what short stories would you recommend for such a thing?
Thanks
>>8208764
I think your main focus should be to get them involved, interested. If you don't feel too confident yet, have them participate, stimulate their point of view and their input.
Which is always best anyway imo than just saying "so the author here says this and that because of that, write that down cause that is the truth."
>>8208823
I think thats def an important aspect, but if they're already showing up they have to have an interest in participation. The point really is to steer away from that whole "im you're professor and this is what the autor is trying to communicate" and have them understand it by their own accord. But how I can teach this is what Im hoping to get insight into
>>8208764
are you going to teach any aesthetic theories?
Do you like Bret Easton Ellis?
His early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when American Psycho came out in '91, I think he really came into his own, commercially and artistically. The whole novel has a clear, crisp brutality, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the prose a big boost. He's been compared to Irvine Welsh, but I think Bret has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humour.
I don't that much. He's a little edgy. His podcast has been entertaining. I always think of him as Elliot Rodger since listening to his podcast, it's really similar in the way he talks and also how self-obsessed and pretentious he gets.
For a author who writes in a similar style about similar things in the same time period, I like John O'Brien better. He wrote Leaving Las Vegas and a few other books.
>>8208743
>He's a little edgy
But don't you know its hip to be square?
tal ent les sha ck!
Hey /lit/ how can you tell if you've written an interesting, well-developed character. I've finished writing the rough draft for my novel but I wanted to know if there were some ways to know if I was missing something when it comes to characters.
>>8208385
Character development is a meme. Post prose.
Waiting for prose OP
By showing it to other people.
You're a very imperfect judge of your own work. That's what editors are for. You've written an interesting, well-developed character when people with expertise worth listening to say that you have.
What is Literature?
One might think that, at the very least, literature is works of the written word. Not to fall into etymological fallacy, but the word literature implies literacy, therefore it is a medium that is to be written and read. This definition is broad without being meaningless, it encompasses fiction and non-fiction, poetry and prose. However, there are problems.
Were the Iliad and Odyssey, for example, not literature before they were recorded in writing? These epic poems are foundational in Western literature, so it would seem odd that they were at one point not themselves literature even when the narratives of each were fully fleshed. This problem applies equally to other works belonging to various oral traditions, Homer's works being used as an illustration. For the sake of these works, can it be said that literature is that with a narrative?
This definition is now too broad to be meaningful, anything can have narrative. Films, still images, works of music, rocks, etc. Even where no narrative might be thought to exist, as with rocks, narrative can be inserted or created to fit the object. Why rock? How rock?
This leads one to consider this process of creating narrative. If literature is not "that which has narrative," perhaps it could be the creation of narrative? Literature then is a method which is applied to objects, let's call them "texts," and produces meaning therein. This definition is not meaningless, as it pertains to a mode of action and thought. While this mode can still be used for all texts in the world, it is not the things which are "literature" but the process.
Literature does not fall within the realm of the text but in establishing or producing a narrative meaning from texts. This applies, again, to fiction and non-fiction, poetry and prose, but also to bodies, trees, rocks, cities, and on and on ad nauseam.
This is all assuming literature is just one thing, which seems kind of foolish to me. I hope y'all remember where we are and don't take this post too seriously. Nonetheless, I'd be interested to see what you think.
Reply to this and you will get a gf at the end of this year
>>8207441
OP here
To be clear, this is not me
this thread will die
Daily bookshelve thread.
Ive updated from last time, pls be gentle guise and validate my patrician ego.
On the side.
>>8196941
the old one hasn't even hit R:100
>>8207265
I said DAILY desu reeeeeeee
What is the most Reddit book ever?
my diary desu
>>8206948
American Psycho? Instead of pop culture references it's just a name brand drop and feels like advertisement for stuff.
You posted it OP. Snow Crash and The Book Thief are pretty bad too
Moon Gates edition
Recommendations
>Fantasy
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/
>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg/ / http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg/
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>wake up
>great ordeal not out
>mfw I just figured out a major connection that unifies my fantasy novel and irons out the motivations of five main characters at once
Feels really good. I'm gonna get this, lads.
Not that I plan on pimping it here when I'm done, I'm not getting Tao Lin'd.
17 days until the Great Ordeal
Get hyped you bashrags