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Can theoretical science be married with literary style to create a work tearing at the very fabric of our understanding?
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It's called Finnegans Wake.
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Tell me, how would you keep a villain from being cliche? How you you keep him/her/it from being another stereotype of the insanely happy, dark past, or 'oh so ominous' antagonist?
I'm curious, really, after reading these past few stories.
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>>8214368
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WellIntentionedExtremist
Not that hard, actually.
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Like this hasn't been done to death and badly.
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Miyazaki, bro.
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How much importance do you lend the study of poetic meter?
I am in two minds: For sculpting a tone or particular rhythm you deem pertinent to what's being said it is probably important to be knowledgeable on the subject however if you are just studying a poem deep knowledge of prosody provides little more than the ability to lend articulation to the general feeling of what a poem or otherwise is impressing on you and while this is useful I see it as providing few points that are interesting or convincing enough to elicit more than a 'if you say so'.
I have made at least one diverting find while practicing, it was when I was looking at the meter of some hip hop.
'When I was 12, I went to hell for snuffing Jesus'
x u / u x / x u / u x / u x / u x / x
This beat, the hyperbeat, is the 13th beat like Judas was the 13th man to sit at the last supper and like a hyperbeat he is the odd one out. I can hear it now: if you say so.
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>it's a /lit/ pretends the uneducated street thugs of Harlem are high IQ poetic geniuses episode
Saged. If you want poetry, read poetry.
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>>8214325
>it's an anon pretends to know what the fuck he's talking about comment
Honestly embarrassing. When I wrote 'I can hear it now: if you say so' it was very clearly an allusion to when I wrote it some two whole sentences before that in reference to the weakness of points derived from metrical analysis. It has absolutely nothing to do with what I think any rapper it just so happened that I was analysing a poem by Nas when I came up with a slightly more diverting than usual supposition.
If you'd care to take your cretinous assumptions and distinct lack of reading comprehension and kindly fuck off out of my thread about prosody, you can read your patrician poetry in peace and I can continue to read whatever the fuck I like.
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>>8214325
>implying Illmatic isn't a poetic masterpiece
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Hi /lit/,
I thought maybe some smarter people can help me with one sentence. I'm reading this pleb-tier sci-fi novel, and I stumbled upon this passage:
“That’s how we’re going to fight,” she told them. “No more attacks by squadrons in tight formations, no more grouping the squadrons to increase their punch. Now we split up into two and three ship groups. No matter how good the enemy is, they can’t keep track of all of us all the time. From now on we harass, disorient and badger the enemy until we see a solid opening, then we rip their guts out.”
“But how do we close in?” Rudd asked.
“Jammers and decoys, plus coming at them from 360 degrees, will get us inside their command and response time,” Emily countered, hoping it was true. “Then we use the lasers until we’ve got a clean shot at something good and pound them with the missiles.”
What does the sentence "will get us inside their command and response time" mean? From the context I guess it means "will get us close enough", but I don't understand what "command" has to do with it. Could you please you explain/paraphrase it?
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>>8214223
Emily means that they won't give the enemy enough to time to issue commands to its fighters and for the fighters to respond.
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So "get inside someone's response time" means do something before they can respond? is it a set phrase?
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As anon said. It's "command time" and "response time", with "inside" meaning "under". People who are used to expressing this sort of idea would probably use "within" or "under" instead.
I guess you're trying to practice reading English or something but this sounds like a horribly shitty book
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Just finished Of Mice and Men a few seconds ago
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I need to hug another human being .....
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Log off mouse brain
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I literally finished it an hour ago too man. I bawled.
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Then I sat on my front porch and thought about it for a bit. Here are my thoughts if you care:
Truly a wonderful story. I think we go through life supported by our fantasies. In moments of quiet or loneliness we can slip into a reverie and be comforted. Everything is going to get better. But once you realize it's never going to happen, once your circumstance is changed forever, that edifice of daydreams crumbles. The true heartbreak is for George, who loses everything -- his friend, his dream -- just like all the other bindlestiffs. Lennie on the other hand got to die with the thought that everything was gonna get better.
I imagine there is a parallel to be drawn with regards to soldiers. Lennies died on battlefield and Georges got live with the aftermath.
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Who else can agree that this guy was one of the greatest poets of all time?
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If you're below the age of 24, don't post please.
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>>8214123
Maybe you and his mom
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>>8214123
pill-addicted asshole who got famous on the back of dick-joke freestyling and a good producer
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how old were you when you realized the incredible power and sublime beauty of the mind?
took me nearly three decades.
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wen i first hit da blunt
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wen i first hit da blunt
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when i was like 14
better late than never i guess
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Here is my attempt at writing poetry to add into my GFs birthday card that is for the 1st July. I don't claim to be good or even educated in the matter beyond GCSE English in the subject, but neither is she.
What do you make of the following:
When I search the depths of my heart,
for non but me to see,
what was discover deep within,
is my love for you with me.
The heart within my chest,
is bound by lock and key,
yet this is no cause for lament,
Nor worry or torment.
For it is a promise of consent,
eminating a candesant aura,
which can only be my love for you,
my beautiful and beloved,
Laura.
Thoughts? Criticisms? Amendments? Advice?
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Holy fucking shit, buddy.
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>>8214082
What?
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like literally holy shit
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Beat Poetry General (BPG) is in session.
*jazz hi-hat starts*
Listen cats.
I dreamed last night that I was a ghost and my father too and we danced for hours without having to worry about the rising prices of soy nor the increasing chance of eye-injuries-by-umbrella during rain season.
Can you dig it?
I woke up and I was floating down the Mississippi-Styx River on a raft. I walked to shore and entered a bar for the dead and forgotten.
This is what I saw inside.
*band enters*
You close your eyes as you step inside.
And the woman sitting in the corner,
drinking empty smiles with a bottle of despair
Oh, delicious crime. Much obliged.
Then the music creeps on from the darkness,
it entangles bodies dancing to the beat.
Come, the Vice Market is waiting.
Taste the sweetness of seduction.
¡Ay! ¡Ay! ¡Ay! ¡Amor, dame una vida!
¿Por qué todo esto es fantasía?
Even distinguished gentlemen have fallen from grace.
But you'll like it better in the gutter
if you remember every whisper in your ear.
The hero dies, the cynic flies.
Then you venture deeper in the market,
when you realize you are never coming home.
Come, the Vice Market is waiting.
Taste the sweetness of seduction.
¡Ay! ¡Ay! ¡Ay! ¡Amor, dame una vida!
¿Por qué todo esto es fantasía?
*submarine invertebrate teleports behind you and claps*
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needs work but better than some of beat poetry. no snaps though; not for clappers
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>>8214014
Recommend me good beat poets pls and thanks
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>>8214256
Not OP
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What are some comfy Books /lit/?
You know, books that give you that "comfy" feeling when reading them.
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The Plains - Murnane
Boring in a good way.
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>>8213897
The Perks of Being A Wallflower
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Murakami's "Dance Dance Dance" was super comfy.
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Any books about wasted potential/genius or wasting your life?
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>>8213890
Do you have something you want to tell us?
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>>8213893
No that isn't what this board is for. But you can make a clear assumption on my situation based on what i'm looking for.
I woud just like to read something that mirrors my situation.
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my diary desu
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Who's going to be the next Kant?
Who will author the next Copernican Revolution in philosophy? Who will completely change the game?
Or have we already seen such an author, or authors?
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>>8213796
No one from this shit generation, that's for sure.
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ib4 nick land forced meme shitters
someone that manages to continue where hegel left off, which is not nearly as easy as dealing with a concrete problem like the copr or something
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>>8213801
>Hegel
Wrong direction. What we're waiting for is in fact the next Nietzsche, who was the next Schopenhauer, who was in turn the next Kant.
Whoever manages to take Nietzsche's ideas to their logical conclusions, or else refute them, will claim that prize.
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Why does genre fiction work so much better in other forms of media than in books?
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>>8213762
Books are more mentally demanding than other forms of media (with the exception of perhaps plays), which means we also expect a greater reward that justifies the mental energy spent.
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Books are more exclusively about ideas and sentiments. Genre fiction is more about action and character interaction, both of which for obvious reasons are better presented on a screen.
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Tell me why you think that's the case.
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Why are drawing skills seen as diametrically opposed to writing now when they were once seen to be both critical parts of a persons and in specific an artists education, as seen in William Blake?
Why have we gutted those skills from our education system and relegated them to an extra break time for kids?
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Factual and functional, fussy accuracy and concision are qualities that are most often respected in writing these days, the equivalent of technical drawing. Creative writing that is actually artistic and beautiful is significantly out of favor so writers and drawers have mostly parted ways. Then again a lot of what people call drawing these days is shamelessly repeating anime and similar tropes
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>Factual and functional, fussy accuracy and concision are qualities that are most often respected in writing these days, the equivalent of technical drawing. Creative writing that is actually artistic and beautiful is significantly out of favor so writers and drawers have mostly parted ways.
You know, I was just talking about this same thing:
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I am glad to see I am not alone
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>>8213657
Where to start with Blake? Innocence and Experience, Heaven and Hell, Urizen?
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>chapter is 100 pages long
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>whole book is 1 chapter
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>chapters don't have a whole page dedicated to a new chapter but the new chapter just begins seamlessly at the end of or middle of a page.
this triggers me
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>this page is intentionally left blank